Downtown Eastside - DTES Issues

[rofina]

Originally Posted by whatnext

People need to send these stories to mayor and council and to the media.

You will not be acknowledged by the Mayor or Council.

I had better luck speaking to Federal and Provincial representation.

Nothing is going to change is the gist of it all.

I had some very enlightening exchanges with Eby's and Kwan's office in the last 10 months, and wow is the City facing an uphill battle.

Caused me to pack up, sell and get out. There isn't even an acknowledgment of the depth of issues, let alone a consensus on how to proceed.

This will continue to worsen unless there is a firm redline drawn, and a politician is willing to put his or her job on the line to make a stand that goes against current consensus.

I don't see who that person would be.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Conrad Yablonski

Why?

So we can be told it's our fault?

Pilloried in the press for 'being in the wrong place at the wrong time'/too bad so sad?

Because no one and I mean No One gives a shit about some old codger croaking you're forgotten by day's end.

I don't believe the media would give you that reaction. This kind of story sells.

[MIPS]

Old news we've circled around enough times but relatable to the idea of bringing it to the attention of the mayor and council directly. A cart and a homeless couple parked in front of a building in Yaletown and both VPD had them ejected and the area was cleaned by the city before the end of the day because they had received complaints.
What was so special about here? The mayor lives in the tower.

Currently only Global has the story.

Note in the story the building address and name is withheld to the point it was censored. Apparently the city is pissed off someone leaked where the mayor lives.
It's The Waterford. 1482 Homer St.

[scryer]

Originally Posted by MIPS

Old news we've circled around enough times but relatable to the idea of bringing it to the attention of the mayor and council directly. A cart and a homeless couple parked in front of a building in west van and both VPD had them ejected and the area was cleaned by the city before the end of the day because they had received complaints.
What was so special about here? The mayor lives in the tower.

Currently only Global has the story.

Note in the story the building address and name is withheld to the point it was censored. Apparently the city is pissed off someone leaked where the mayor lives.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Suddenly, I am very glad that I voted for Shauna instead.

[Feathered Friend]

Might be important to note this happened after the mayor's personal address was "accidently" leaked out, and these poor individuals were used as props since someone literally paid them to set up camp there.

[MIPS]

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

Might be important to note this happened after the mayor's personal address was "accidently" leaked out, and these poor individuals were used as props since someone literally paid them to set up camp there.

The double standard still remains valid, even if they were not blatently/visibly camping out in protest. There's a park right across the street even. You will never see a camp pop up and last there too long.

[whatnext]

Nice. At least they caught the thieving hag.

10-year-old girl elbowed, robbed by woman while in line at Vancouver restaurant
BY KATHRYN TINDALE
Posted Mar 9, 2021

VANCOUVER (NEWS 1130) – While waiting in line to buy breakfast for her family, a 10-year-old girl was elbowed in the face by a woman after she reached into the girl’s pocket and took $50, Vancouver police say.

In a statement, police say the girl was in line at a restaurant on Keefer Street near Main Street on Saturday morning when the woman approached the girl, grabbed her by the arm, then took the money.

“When the little girl followed the woman and tried to get her money back, the suspect allegedly elbowed her in the face, splitting her lip and causing a nose bleed. Multiple witnesses called 9-1-1, and a bystander intervened and ensured the suspect did not leave the scene,”....

https://www.citynews1130.com/2021/03...bbed-by-woman/

[giallo]

Just add that to the ever-growing list of random assaults in and around downtown.

[Vin]

Can't blame the woman she is simply doing that to get her drug fix. She is also a victim!


Bah.

[SeymourDrake]

FYI, crime is not a new thing. Random acts of violence are in every town and city in this province. But some of you seem to think it's as new as Covid-19.

[scryer]

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[Klazu]

These stories are starting to be daily and they are getting crazier by the day. People and now even children are getting attacked in broad daylight in Downtown. If crime and the current insanity is not the top voting issue in 2022, I don't know what will be.

It's so surreal how super expensive condos are going up in Downtown all while violent zombies roam the streets. Most livable city in the world.

[logicbomb]

Originally Posted by SeymourDrake

FYI, crime is not a new thing. Random acts of violence are in every town and city in this province. But some of you seem to think it's as new as Covid-19.

The frequency and severity of violence in Downtown Vancouver have significantly increased since the introduction of Fentanyl. An acquaintance who is a VPD officer even stated that the violence has gotten out of hand.

I lived Downtown near Abbott and Expo Blvd in 2008 and can say that area has gotten significantly worse based off my past few visits. This city has become a safe haven for the most absolute scum in the country and that is exemplified by one of the two individuals that murdered that random woman in Vancouver who had an extensive rap sheet in Quebec.

Wasn't shocked to hear that many of those junkies stealing cat converters and bikes are actually former oil field workers that were laid off in the mid-late 2010's. I have family in Fort McMurray and they aren't shocked that "their problem" has arrived to Vancouver. It was well known that many of those high earners up there were blowing all their earnings on drugs and booze...some residents up there started buying guns to protect themselves.

Originally Posted by Klazu

These stories are starting to be daily and they are getting crazier by the day. People and now even children are getting attacked in broad daylight in Downtown. If crime and the current insanity is not the top voting issue in 2022, I don't know what will be.

It's so surreal how super expensive condos are going up in Downtown all while violent zombies roam the streets. Most livable city in the world.

The issue will never get dealt with due the "woke" culture. Unfortunately pro-poverty advocates are too vocal and strong. It's even become worse with many homeless alleging First Nations status which adds a whole new layer to this.

People are moving the suburbs. Most people I know have moved to the tri-cities or Langley/Walnut Grove recently. Downtown will always have demand from international and local partygoers along with fools that are unfamiliar with the area.

[s211]

Originally Posted by logicbomb

The issue will never get dealt with due the "woke" culture. Unfortunately pro-poverty advocates are too vocal and strong. It's even become worse with many homeless alleging First Nations status which adds a whole new layer to this.

I agree, and this is exactly why I've given up hope.

[rofina]

Originally Posted by SeymourDrake

FYI, crime is not a new thing. Random acts of violence are in every town and city in this province. But some of you seem to think it's as new as Covid-19.

Your trolling in this situation is particularly aggrevating.

This City is regressing at a clip unseen in decades and some of you are still wanting to pretend that were not facing a litany of issues.

Listening to you is like listening to City Hall - abject rejection of the reality around you.

Things are getting worse. And we need to act. Instead were still in the debate stages of if things are worse.

Bloody asinine.

[chowhou]

Prepare to be bored. Crime rates continue to fall at a slow boring rate. Canada, BC, and Vancouver are all getting slowly safer. There isn't anything fun to be angry about.



I know it's not something fun to be outraged about, but the facts are the facts

When I was a kid, people commonly got murdered in East and South Van and gang warfare was considered a typical summer activity. Things have gotten a lot more boring, some horrible woman elbowed a little girl. Crime was a lot more interesting when Bindy Johal was alive I guess.

[rofina]

Originally Posted by s211

I agree, and this is exactly why I've given up hope.

Money talks.

Sold all my Van RE last year. City wont be getting my taxes. I'm also packing up my 6 figure income and leaving.

I'm one person, but if this starts to multiply it will have an effect.

The unfortunate part is, this is as predictable as the sun rise tomorrow.

This will become the singular election issue. Some populist hack is going to win the vote and do nothing. Situation will continue to degrade for another cycle.

There's a decade of pain ahead, and its a shame. Its so disappointing and disgusting that were allowing this to be a reality.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by rofina

Your trolling in this situation is particularly aggrevating.

This City is regressing at a clip unseen in decades and some of you are still wanting to pretend that were not facing a litany of issues.

The plural of anecdotes isn't data.

[rofina]

Originally Posted by chowhou

Prepare to be bored. Crime rates continue to fall at a slow boring rate. Canada, BC, and Vancouver are all getting slowly safer. There isn't anything fun to be angry about.



I know it's not something fun to be outraged about, but the facts are the facts

When I was a kid, people commonly got murdered in East and South Van and gang warfare was considered a typical summer activity. Things have gotten a lot more boring, some horrible woman elbowed a little girl. Crime was a lot more interesting when Bindy Johal was alive I guess.

This is backwards looking. We bottomed out about literally as your charts end. An unquantified amount of crime is also going unreported, in the last 12 months first hand account; 2 unreported thefts, 2 break ins, and 1 assault. All unreported because nothing will happen anyway. Anecdotes dictate that not reporting has become a trend - police simply don't bother to respond and people are not bothering to call.

The increase was driven from 2018 on, and is now established a trend.

Besides, the policies in place make the continuation of the trend all but inevitable. Its obvious for anyone willing to look.

We don't have to do anything to be proven right, but wait and let things get worse. The shame is there is nothing good about being right, everyone ends up worse off for it especially the most vulnerable.

Remember this post when you're reposting this graph in 2025 and things have only continued to degrade, but by then can be seen on a neat graph.