Hamilton City Centre | ? | 3x30 & 24 fl | Proposal - Page 15

craftbeerdad · #**281** Posted **Mar 2, 2021, 4:11 PM**

If this gets completed according to these renders I can live with it based on the fact most of us will be using the ground level anyways and not living there. For the sake of originality, would be nice if the towers varied but as if we're going to lose sleep over this for eternity.

Agree with StEC, definitely has a Distillery District vibe (or at least current state). Before the condos at DD, the area had a much more old worldly feel and was fun. Then real estate market demand happened and boom there goes that. But the Christmas Market always provided a great atmosphere.

Don't know if anyone mentioned yet, but we have 7 years till this is done (Q1 2028), so going to be a while.

ScreamingViking · #**282** Posted **Mar 2, 2021, 5:26 PM**

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It could be, however, the redesign does account for the suggestions from the previous Design Review Panel meeting.

We can probably thank them for the improvements to the podium, and the increased blandness of the towers.

It does look like some of the balconies are offset at an angle to the tower structures (or is it the floorplates that are not quite rectangular) which creates some interest.

King&James · #**283** Posted **Mar 3, 2021, 4:38 AM**

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Originally Posted by craftbeerdad

If this gets completed according to these renders I can live with it based on the fact most of us will be using the ground level anyways and not living there. For the sake of originality, would be nice if the towers varied but as if we're going to lose sleep over this for eternity.

Agree with StEC, definitely has a Distillery District vibe (or at least current state). Before the condos at DD, the area had a much more old worldly feel and was fun. Then real estate market demand happened and boom there goes that. But the Christmas Market always provided a great atmosphere.

Don't know if anyone mentioned yet, but we have 7 years till this is done (Q1 2028), so going to be a while.

One building every two years, and a year of demo and ground work, seems reasonable pace for the Hammer

ScreamingViking · #**284** Posted **Mar 3, 2021, 4:53 PM**

Also factor in time for the leases of remaining tenants to expire (or agreements to get them to move out prior to that)

I wonder if this will be phased. I'm too lazy right now to read back through the thread and take a look for reference to that.

Ok, effort rewarded... it will probably be phased, and many leases have a demolition clause. SteelTown's post of a Spec story from late October 2019:
https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8732437&postcount=148

Markus83 · #**285** Posted **Mar 3, 2021, 5:08 PM**

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The urbanism of the project looks much better, I will give them that much. As I said though, the actual design of the buildings is still terrible. There needs to be greater differentiation between buildings, and material selections are too suburban, like you said. This may just be a master planning exercise and each building will come in with a different look, but it may not be either. Given that they are building this as of right and have an active site plan application.. I'm thinking these are what they intend to build.

The thing is that this developer isn't very good on the aesthetic front. They are ambitious and build what they propose.. they just build —.

They are building the new tallest building in Kitchener right now. And it looks like this:

https://www.waterlooregionconnected.com/showthread.php?tid=1146&page=74

I find it funny that in a city with a population of less than half of Hamilton, that the building height is 39 stories and our downtown is limited to 30 stories. Yes, I know why that is but it doesn't mean I agree with it, and seeing this building in Kitchener at this height, it is hard not to feel some resentment on the matter, or perhaps even jealousy also.

ScreamingViking · #**286** Posted **Mar 3, 2021, 5:26 PM**

If you'd like some solace, consider that Kitchener is getting its own version of Landmark Place... i.e., a tower of fugly blandness that will stand tall in the skyline for decades.

Source

http://www.dtkcondos.ca/pictures/

905er · #**287** Posted **Mar 3, 2021, 11:12 PM**

I'm happy for Kitchener for getting a new tallest, but have to concur, the design is so incredibly bland. Had that been built 3 decades ago I would have forgiven the design. Seems like a missed opportunity for KW to get a signature tower. Looks like something you'd see go up in Ottawa.

StEC · #**288** Posted **Mar 4, 2021, 12:30 AM**

It's the modern day commie block tower, this — is popping up everywhere!

ScreamingViking · #**289** Posted **Mar 4, 2021, 12:47 AM**

Yep. And we have our own shorter versions of this under construction or proposed.

StEC · #**290** Posted **Mar 4, 2021, 1:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by ScreamingViking

Yep. And we have our own shorter versions of this under construction or proposed.

Sadly, a lot of them.

johnnyhamont · #**291** Posted **Mar 4, 2021, 1:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by Markus83

I find it funny that in a city with a population of less than half of Hamilton, that the building height is 39 stories and our downtown is limited to 30 stories. Yes, I know why that is but it doesn't mean I agree with it, and seeing this building in Kitchener at this height, it is hard not to feel some resentment on the matter, or perhaps even jealousy also.

LRT. Good intensification isn't about population numbers so much as what you do with those numbers.

ShavedParmesanCheese · #**292** Posted **Mar 4, 2021, 5:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by johnnyhamont

LRT. Good intensification isn't about population numbers so much as what you do with those numbers.

God, ain't that the truth. Mississauga's a town planner's hell and look at how tall their towers are.

TheRitsman · #**293** Posted **Sep 16, 2021, 9:51 PM**

I was a member of the downtown Crunch location which closed because of Covid and inexplicably never reopened. Well I finally got confirmation it will never reopen because they have been served an eviction notice for May 2022 to allow for demolition of the complex.

Take this as you will having heard it from a Crunch staff member, but this seems like they have some sort of solid plan. Haven't heard anything about site plan approval or demolition permit though.

TheHonestMaple · #**294** Posted **Sep 16, 2021, 10:50 PM**

Wow. Downtown Hamilton is going to be quite the construction zone in 2022 between all these condos and the LRT.

TheRitsman · #**295** Posted **Sep 17, 2021, 12:15 AM**

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Originally Posted by TheHonestMaple

Wow. Downtown Hamilton is going to be quite the construction zone in 2022 between all these condos and the LRT.

My major hope is that LRT stops these slowpoke developments that get proposed and go nowhere. Mind you Toronto has developments that start and then to nowhere too.

King&James · #**296** Posted **Sep 17, 2021, 1:15 AM**

You can really separate the posers from the doers, and hoping those who take the actual risks are well rewarded. The posers sadly will benefit from their land holding valuations increasing by doing nothing.

Wigs · #**297** Posted **Sep 17, 2021, 12:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by StEC

Sadly, a lot of them.

One would think with the high amount of Italian and Portuguese residents in Hamilton that the commie block look wouldn't have taken off

Wigs · #**298** Posted **Sep 17, 2021, 12:35 PM**

Landmark Place just needs some funky multi coloured paneling at the top to replace the dark brown yech look!

Wigs · #**299** Posted **Sep 17, 2021, 12:36 PM**

I'd take a quality designed 20-25 storey building over a 39 storey CommieScraper any day

mikevbar1 · #**300** Posted **Sep 17, 2021, 5:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by TheRitsman

I was a member of the downtown Crunch location which closed because of Covid and inexplicably never reopened. Well I finally got confirmation it will never reopen because they have been served an eviction notice for May 2022 to allow for demolition of the complex.

Take this as you will having heard it from a Crunch staff member, but this seems like they have some sort of solid plan. Haven't heard anything about site plan approval or demolition permit though.

Funny, 5 Star fitness Ancaster just announced via email their becoming a Crunch.