Winnipeg Construction X

[Jeff]

no one is standing up for the grow ops.. i'm sure marijuana plants don't like noise, crime or shadows either!

[H2man]

I would be fine if all the single family homes along Jubilee were bought up, bulldozed, and replaced with multifamily units several stories high. Good opportunity for densification there.

I know the folks that have lived there for a long time hate this, but Jubilee isn't a quiet neighbourhood street anymore (was it ever, back in the day?) and I think we should accept that it's a relatively major corridor connecting Pembina to South Osborne at the north and, more importantly, Fermor (and hence St Vital, Windsor Park, Southdale, Sage Creek, etc.) at the south. Having apartment blocks along Jubilee would actually protect the quietness of the neighbourhood behind some larger buildings placed along Jubilee.

I might be alone in this line of thinking and I'm no civil planner, just thinking out loud.

[esquire]

Jubilee probably hasn't been a quiet street since the St. Vital Bridge was built. The homes on the street are generally worth less because the traffic makes them relatively undesirable, hence their attractiveness to developers. Trying to force out multifamily is silliness that goes against sound planning principles.

[Wpg_Guy]

Originally Posted by h2man

i would be fine if all the single family homes along jubilee were bought up, bulldozed, and replaced with multifamily units several stories high. Good opportunity for densification there.

I know the folks that have lived there for a long time hate this, but jubilee isn't a quiet neighbourhood street anymore (was it ever, back in the day?) and i think we should accept that it's a relatively major corridor connecting pembina to south osborne at the north and, more importantly, fermor (and hence st vital, windsor park, southdale, sage creek, etc.) at the south. Having apartment blocks along jubilee would actually protect the quietness of the neighbourhood behind some larger buildings placed along jubilee.

I might be alone in this line of thinking and i'm no civil planner, just thinking out loud.

100%

[rivercity]

I dont understand the opposition to this. Those new builds look way nicer compared to the duplexes already along that strip. Especially the one with the roof vents that make me laugh every time I am exiting Pembina to EB Jubilee.
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[bomberjet]

So ridiculous. 3 storey apartments, next to side by sides. On Jubilee at Pembina! Lol

[bomberjet]

Originally Posted by H2man

I would be fine if all the single family homes along Jubilee were bought up, bulldozed, and replaced with multifamily units several stories high. Good opportunity for densification there.

I know the folks that have lived there for a long time hate this, but Jubilee isn't a quiet neighbourhood street anymore (was it ever, back in the day?) and I think we should accept that it's a relatively major corridor connecting Pembina to South Osborne at the north and, more importantly, Fermor (and hence St Vital, Windsor Park, Southdale, Sage Creek, etc.) at the south. Having apartment blocks along Jubilee would actually protect the quietness of the neighbourhood behind some larger buildings placed along Jubilee.

I might be alone in this line of thinking and I'm no civil planner, just thinking out loud.

What should've happened decades ago is Jubilee bulldozed and turned into a freeway connecting Fermor to Sterling Lyon.

[esquire]

^ Always thought it was kind of odd that Jubilee was never extended to Waverley just as a normal street. It would have improved connectivity and traffic flows in the area.

[buzzg]

Jubilee would be a fantastic high street like Academy. Infill with MFH and small apartments, zoned to allow for some street level retail. It's a fairly dense area the the western side of it is pretty far from Osborne that a few local shop there would be great. Especially with RT right behind it and the AT bridge over the river – could be one of the best areas in the city.

Originally Posted by bomberjet

What should've happened decades ago is Jubilee bulldozed and turned into a freeway connecting Fermor to Sterling Lyon.

I think Fermor to McGillvray would have made way more sense.

[bomberjet]

Originally Posted by esquire

^ Always thought it was kind of odd that Jubilee was never extended to Waverley just as a normal street. It would have improved connectivity and traffic flows in the area.

That's the disjointed street network from pre merger days. IIRC there was a plan of some sort back when. But nothing happened. Then the plan was to extend sterling lyon eastward and the northward over CN mainline.

Originally Posted by buzzg

I think Fermor to McGillvray would have made way more sense.

Anything would be better than what we ended up with. Direct all the heavy through traffic elsewhere would make all the current stroads much more people friendly.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by buzzg

Jubilee would be a fantastic high street like Academy. Infill with MFH and small apartments, zoned to allow for some street level retail. It's a fairly dense area the the western side of it is pretty far from Osborne that a few local shop there would be great. Especially with RT right behind it and the AT bridge over the river – could be one of the best areas in the city.

100% agree. I think there's a good chance it would evolve that way unless the City sides with NIMBYs and puts a hold on any new more dense forms of development there.

[bomberjet]

I feel Jubilee is too stroady. Jubilee is the passthrough from Fermor (people east of Winnipeg) to Pembina and onward.

Focus on building up Osborne maybe.

[esquire]

^ It's stroady for a residential street with single-family homes, but as a 50 km/h thoroughfare it isn't that dissimilar to South Osborne which works well as an almost-high street.

[DancingDuck]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

So ridiculous. 3 storey apartments, next to side by sides. On Jubilee at Pembina! Lol

Is someone able to point me in the direction of renderings? I'm browsing on my phone and can't get the city planning links to load properly. I have a pretty good idea what to expect design wise but I'm still curious.

A few buildings similar to the 3 storey brick one at the Jubilee/Osborne intersection would be amazing spread along the street, or clustered around BDI.

[WinCitySparky]

Originally Posted by H2man

I would be fine if all the single family homes along Jubilee were bought up, bulldozed, and replaced with multifamily units several stories high. Good opportunity for densification there.

I know the folks that have lived there for a long time hate this, but Jubilee isn't a quiet neighbourhood street anymore (was it ever, back in the day?) and I think we should accept that it's a relatively major corridor connecting Pembina to South Osborne at the north and, more importantly, Fermor (and hence St Vital, Windsor Park, Southdale, Sage Creek, etc.) at the south. Having apartment blocks along Jubilee would actually protect the quietness of the neighbourhood behind some larger buildings placed along Jubilee.

I might be alone in this line of thinking and I'm no civil planner, just thinking out loud.

Totally agree.

[bomberjet]

Originally Posted by esquire

^ It's stroady for a residential street with single-family homes, but as a 50 km/h thoroughfare it isn't that dissimilar to South Osborne which works well as an almost-high street.

Osborne definitely stroady too but works decently. Jubilee is the through street from an expressway to a wannabe expressway (Pembina). let the cars have it and focus development attention to Osborne. IMO anyways.

And if it was a beautiful high street, that'd be awesome.

[OTA in Winnipeg]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

Osborne definitely stroady too but works decently. Jubilee is the through street from an expressway to a wannabe expressway (Pembina). let the cars have it and focus development attention to Osborne. IMO anyways.

And if it was a beautiful high street, that'd be awesome.

Left hand turns during rush hour need to be eliminated completely on Osborne. Then it'll work like it should. Sorry McDonald's/Co-op. Maybe an extended left hand turn light at Osborne/River NB, but not at rush hour. Not sure why that hasn't happened yet. Don't think there's room for a lane.

No parking at all during any rush hour on Jubilee. Who's in charge here?

[esquire]

Originally Posted by OTA in Winnipeg

Left hand turns during rush hour need to be eliminated completely on Osborne. Then it'll work like it should. Sorry McDonald's/Co-op. Maybe an extended left hand turn light at Osborne/River NB, but not at rush hour. Not sure why that hasn't happened yet. Don't think there's room for a lane.

When I used to live in Riverview I found that nothing gummed up the works at rush hour like all of the left-turners. But what I don't understand is why the city never put in protected left turn cycles along the South Osborne stretch. Being able to get more than one or two left-turning cars through per cycle would do wonders for a pretty low price.

[buzzg]

I actually prefer leaving Osborne as-is traffic wise, no need to speed up traffic on a street like that. If anything it encourages people to take other streets. I'd like to see Osborne narrowed north of Confusion and traffic funneled to Donald tbh. Walking on the sidewalk in the village from October–April is about as inhospitable as it gets, it's absolutely filthy and you're right up to the road. Make it 30 kmh, one lane only, whatever.... but it needs to be improved.

[esquire]

^ The problem is that people in Riverview have no other option... I moved from Riverview to St. Vital and I find that the extra few KM past Riverview take almost no time at all relative to the time it takes just getting to Morley.

Unless we are prepared to decommission the St. Vital Bridge, traffic on Osborne is something that everyone is going to have to live with...