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Nothing as dramatic as the Toronto and Montreal ones, but some smaller Halifax ones. There aren't really any marginal/dead-zone areas that have been transformed from nothingness to high-rises, but some of the downtown-area neighbourhoods have seen intensive enough redevelopment that they look and feel completely different in a very short span of time.

First is Hollis Street and Bishop Street. This one will be a bit more noticeable in a year or two, as another new construction will be erected to the right of the highrise. This is one of the most architecturally eclectic parts of downtown, with a solid mix of architecture ranging from the 1700s to today, but there were a lot of dead zones and derelict bits until recently, and the infill has really begun transforming it.

The building on the right in the first pic was a neat little Italianate number with a brick facade below the siding, so it's a bit unfortunate it was demolished. The area has just recently become a heritage district, so this development probably wouldn't have been able to proceed in the same form today.





And then Spring Garden Road and Doyle Street. A much more significant historic loss (besides this old deco-influenced bank building, there were also some Victorian townhouses on the block on the left side that are gone). On the southeast corner of the intersection, just out of view of these pics, there's a whole block of more modest historic buildings that was just knocked down for another project, by the same developer who put up the building on the left side of the 2019 pic.

This whole area has undergone really, really rapid transformation. Architecturally it's mixed (the loss of the block to the left is unfortunate, IMO, but the new central library on the right has been a huge positive for the area). But the area is becoming more densely built up and livelier, either way.




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Old Posted Feb 7, 2021, 5:32 PM
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In Halifax there is Sackville Street, still mid-transformation in 2019:





South Park Street is going to be similar but it's hard to photograph, at least in summer, due to the trees. Gottingen is changing a lot too. If Cogswell happens it will be dramatic.
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2021, 5:36 PM
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The building on the right in the first pic was a neat little Italianate number with a brick facade below the siding, so it's a bit unfortunate it was demolished.
Halifax is the land where developers buy potentially lovely heritage buildings, cover them in siding and let them deteriorate as slum rentals for 10-20 years, then demolish them for something that's 3 storeys taller and cheap looking.

I think those days might be on their way out but there are so many sites like that. I hope it doesn't happen to the one at Inglis and Victoria Rd. Not sure anything is preventing that outcome. The Morris/Birmingham and North Park "baby blue vinyl siding" districts are in the same camp.
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I used to hang out in griffintown quite a bit back in the old days before the redevelopment, and though I find the majority of developments bland and sterile, I'm certainly not nostalgic about how it used to look. It was really bland and depressing, it was loaded with ugly 1970s 1 storey metal-clad warehouses, parking lots, empty lots, and abandoned greyhound bus depots. There was also 0 soul or activity save for odd musician's loft here or there.

There was 0 reason to go there except if you wanted to visit a detroit-style blighted neighbourhood. Good riddance.
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I used to hang out in griffintown quite a bit back in the old days before the redevelopment, and though I find the majority of developments bland and sterile, I'm certainly not nostalgic about how it used to look. It was really bland and depressing, it was loaded with ugly 1970s 1 storey metal-clad warehouses, parking lots, empty lots, and abandoned greyhound bus depots. There was also 0 soul or activity save for odd musician's loft here or there.

There was 0 reason to go there except if you wanted to visit a detroit-style blighted neighbourhood. Good riddance.
Agreed, even though urban grit is something that interests me. I was too young to see what Griffintown looked like pre-2010.

There's also different types of urban transformations... Some could even say kinda depressing ones.

2009: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4921536,...hh3_Z4RxSZxjoikLhgK4Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
2020: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4921924,...doJOvFd08qymrLR4b5Ctw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
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Agreed, even though urban grit is something that interests me. I was too young to see what Griffintown looked like pre-2010.

There's also different types of urban transformations... Some could even say kinda depressing ones.

2009: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4921536,...hh3_Z4RxSZxjoikLhgK4Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
2020: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4921924,...doJOvFd08qymrLR4b5Ctw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Ugh. Milton is everything that is wrong with Canadian suburbia: densely packed but completely car-dependent.
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Ugh. Milton is everything that is wrong with Canadian suburbia: densely packed but completely car-dependent.
Even a minimal effort would have improved that scene considerably. It could have been so much better.
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This whole area has undergone really, really rapid transformation. Architecturally it's mixed (the loss of the block to the left is unfortunate, IMO, but the new central library on the right has been a huge positive for the area). But the area is becoming more densely built up and livelier, either way.



Oh no!

The library looks great though!
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I hope it doesn't happen to the one at Inglis and Victoria Rd. Not sure anything is preventing that outcome. The Morris/Birmingham and North Park "baby blue vinyl siding" districts are in the same camp.
I was just walking around that Inglis/Victoria neighbourhood the other day and thinking about how it's still kind of surprisingly down-at-heel compared to other parts of the inner city which have quickly become a lot more polished. But what a rich trove of heritage there still is around there, matched with an abundance of developable sites. Huge potential for a great match of restoration + new development, but really no coherent plan to see that the mix comes together right. I'm sure that the area will improve, but there will probably be unnecessary casualties.

The Morris/Birmingham stretch, and that bit of North Park, however, seem to be protected by restrictive zoning (max 11 metres). Of course it would be better to have more intentional heritage protections, rather than blanket low-density zoning, but for whatever it's worth I'm pretty sure the historic buildings along those stretches are pretty safe.
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Oh no!

The library looks great though!
The library is fantastic. But that old bank building was a treasure of its own kind, too, housing a favourite local pub, a brewery, and some other stuff in a dignified old building that had been cut up in weird but charming ways. It was a completely unique and eclectic block, and while the new building is fine, it'll never replicate what made the old one a special fixture in the neighbourhood.
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Wow...Griffintown MTL, has really changed in the past decade. So has Halifax....Its nice to see so much construction going up in Halifax after decades of nothing. I remember when Hollis street was one of the biggest "hoe strolls" in the country. It's really nice to see the improvements.
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Is anything going on in Quebec City, it seems we never hear development news about it and it seems like it's the only major Canadian city that has not been improving in the last decade
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Yeah, I think that strip along Gladstone are some of the better new builds in the area.
The narrow-ish laneway in between the buildings forming an intimate back alley enclave is absolutely fantastic.

https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.6435526,-...3iRrqfZtiChaoF_6XZ1Dw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

The architectural quality and variety is pleasing to the eye. I'd be very happy to come home every day to a building on this laneway. In my opinion North American cities need more of this kind of stuff. Wide thoroughfares are so oppressive if they aren't balanced out by more human-scaled environments like this.

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Across from the hotel - you mean this one on the old Country Style lot?


https://urbantoronto.ca/database/projects/1181-queen-street-west
Yeah, that looks decent enough. I always hated that Country Style donuts with the parking lot. It took "Toronto shabby" to the next level. Hopefully those days are gone forever.
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Agreed, even though urban grit is something that interests me. I was too young to see what Griffintown looked like pre-2010.

There's also different types of urban transformations... Some could even say kinda depressing ones.

2009: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4921536,...hh3_Z4RxSZxjoikLhgK4Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
2020: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4921924,...doJOvFd08qymrLR4b5Ctw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
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Is anything going on in Quebec City, it seems we never hear development news about it and it seems like it's the only major Canadian city that has not been improving in the last decade
Quebec City went through some very big changes in the early 2000s, eg the revitalization of St-Roch. Since then it seems like change has been fairly incremental in most central neighbourhoods. Like this:





The bigger changes are happening in more outlying areas like St-Foy.



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I'm not sure this is exactly what SkahHigh intended when he started the thread, but one big change that jumps to mind is how much better the pedestrian/cycling environment has gotten in Montreal. All over the city there have been many small but significant improvements to the streetscape.

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Those are spectacular. Changes the whole atmosphere to properly urban.
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I'm not sure this is exactly what SkahHigh intended when he started the thread, but one big change that jumps to mind is how much better the pedestrian/cycling environment has gotten in Montreal. All over the city there have been many small but significant improvements to the streetscape.
Great addition/twist to this thread.
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