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Old Posted Jan 29, 2021, 7:43 PM
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There's one thing I know: Quebec city' skyline is hard to capture from one specific vantage point because of its topography. The St Roch part alone would be per example a good little skyline of a 150k to 250k metro area if taken alone, but it's at the foothill of the upper town and not always included in skyline shoots.
Quebec City is interesting to me partly because it invalidates so much received wisdom around old bylaws, height limits, or just general naysaying and negativity that pops up when you follow Halifax politics and development.

If you were to plan out the main cluster like in Halifax you'd put the tall buildings on the lowest elevation land parcels and the shortest buildings on the highest elevation parcels and the whole thing would look like a flat blob.

And you'd consider the fact that you can see some highrises inside the citadel in Quebec City a huge problem when in fact people don't really notice and it doesn't matter. The received wisdom suggests that these 70's highrises have permanently destroyed Quebec City's tourism appeal when in fact they are fine and the stuff happening at street level matters more than height.

Another Halifax fallacy is that heritage buildings are expensive and the economy will tank if too many are kept around. Had Quebec City been run like Halifax, about half of its surviving heritage buildings would have been destroyed. In the 90's, some generic box stores would have been built with completely generic signage.

There's also a bunch of climate-related naysaying. You cannot have paving stones and nice street furniture if there is ever snow, people will not walk outside in sub-zero weather.

A lot of this is fading now but it's all incredibly parochial given that there's a city that offers some good counterexamples only a 10 hour drive away. Of course, these things mostly came from dull suburban councillors and Baby Boomer newspaper commentators circa 2007.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 29, 2021, 8:01 PM
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Quebec City is interesting to me partly because it invalidates so much received wisdom around old bylaws, height limits, or just general naysaying and negativity that pops up when you follow Halifax politics and development.

If you were to plan out the main cluster like in Halifax you'd put the tall buildings on the lowest elevation land parcels and the shortest buildings on the highest elevation parcels and the whole thing would look like a flat blob.

And you'd consider the fact that you can see some highrises inside the citadel in Quebec City a huge problem when in fact people don't really notice and it doesn't matter. The received wisdom suggests that these 70's highrises have permanently destroyed Quebec City's tourism appeal when in fact they are fine and the stuff happening at street level matters more than height.

Another Halifax fallacy is that heritage buildings are expensive and the economy will tank if too many are kept around. Had Quebec City been run like Halifax, about half of its surviving heritage buildings would have been destroyed. In the 90's, some generic box stores would have been built with completely generic signage.

There's also a bunch of climate-related naysaying. You cannot have paving stones and nice street furniture if there is ever snow, people will not walk outside in sub-zero weather.

A lot of this is fading now but it's all incredibly parochial given that there's a city that offers some good counterexamples only a 10 hour drive away. Of course, these things mostly came from dull suburban councillors and Baby Boomer newspaper commentators circa 2007.
Interesting point of view. Thanks!
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Agreed. Montreal is amazing. Wall to wall 3-4 storey buildings. No holes anywhere. No vacant lots, no parking lots, no strip malls, ugly mid-rise office buildings or cheap 70s slab towers. Just density perfection. Amazing how intact Montreal's urban built form remains.
No vacant lots or parking lots is a very recent phenomenon. Before the recent boom, there were still lots of big parking lots downtown, and before the mini-boom in the mid-2000s, there were lots of vacant lots everywhere. And there are plenty of slab towers downtown but unlike Toronto or Ottawa they don't have any setbacks or wasted space at the bottom which makes a big difference.
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No vacant lots or parking lots is a very recent phenomenon. Before the recent boom, there were still lots of big parking lots downtown, and before the mini-boom in the mid-2000s, there were lots of vacant lots everywhere. And there are plenty of slab towers downtown but unlike Toronto or Ottawa they don't have any setbacks or wasted space at the bottom which makes a big difference.
Except in Le Plateau, which has been fully build for decades now, I might add.
     
     
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damn, I am lovin' those Montreal shots. So much of the old. So much that is new. Best of both worlds.
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2021, 11:52 AM
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Went by this picture a few times before realizing it's the site of the old Children's Hospital. This one is disappointing. I wish they would have preserved more, if not all the buildings.


http://www.taylornoakes.com/2015/12/01/c...bot-square/montreal_children_hospital-4/


https://imtl.org/montreal/building/Children-Hospital.php
     
     
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Went by this picture a few times before realizing it's the site of the old Children's Hospital. This one is disappointing. I wish they would have preserved more, if not all the buildings.


http://www.taylornoakes.com/2015/12/01/c...bot-square/montreal_children_hospital-4/


https://imtl.org/montreal/building/Children-Hospital.php
I was just about to reply to that photo. Agree 100% and what they replaced it with looks sterile and bland. It's a wall of non-descript, repetitive, grey condos and a big step down from the general standard of beauty in downtown Montreal. If this is representative of the direction Montreal, it's very worrying. This is a step backwards.
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Ottawa, Fall 2020. Ottawa Tourism Instagram.


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I was just about to reply to that photo. Agree 100% and what they replaced it with looks sterile and bland. It's a wall of non-descript, repetitive, grey condos and a big step down from the general standard of beauty in downtown Montreal. If this is representative of the direction Montreal, it's very worrying. This is a step backwards.
That project is a disaster. It only happened because Denis Coderre struck a sweetheart deal with a major developer. Luckily the other major projects coming up such as the Quartier des lumières (former Radio-Canada site) and Molson Brewery redevelopment are going through a more rigorous planning project. There's also Esplanade Cartier, which is another developer-led project that looks pretty decent.
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Seeing as Kamloops is becoming a CMA this year, it seems only appropriate to give it some representation in this thread with a couple of recent-ish (May 2020) skyline shots:


IMG_5460 by raggedy13, on Flickr


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Loving Kamloops.

Was only there once and I was fairly impressed .
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Riding a bike across the Jacques Cartier Bridge is quite the experience. The rumbling of the motorized traffic can be unnerving, as is the fact that you're pushing yourself along just inches from the edge of the path, with a sheer drop into the river prevented only by a chain link fence.

I've done it many times, and it always feels epic.
     
     
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Nice to see another person showcasing the smaller CMAs. I've always loved Kamloops, driving over the transcanada highway bridge overlooking downtown and the valley is a very unique experience among cities.
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Whats the ramp U/C? Rail I'm assuming?
     
     
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