YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion - Page 784

trofirhen · #**15661** Posted **Dec 10, 2020, 11:17 AM**

Booming, corporate Seattle wins again ... Qatar Airways coming mid-March, with 4x weekly service. SEA-TAC seems poised to make it a major global business hub of sorts.
https://www.anna.aero/2020/12/09/qatar-a...tle-route-on-fte-anna-aeros-sister-site/

nname · #**15662** Posted **Dec 11, 2020, 2:53 AM**

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Originally Posted by trofirhen

Booming, corporate Seattle wins again ... Qatar Airways coming mid-March, with 4x weekly service. SEA-TAC seems poised to make it a major global business hub of sorts.
https://www.anna.aero/2020/12/09/qatar-a...tle-route-on-fte-anna-aeros-sister-site/

They lost CX though. And SQ may not be back, at least immediately, after the pandemic is over.

trofirhen · #**15663** Posted **Dec 11, 2020, 4:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by nname

They lost CX though. And SQ may not be back, at least immediately, after the pandemic is over.

Yes, that's a good point. However, what I am really noticing is SEA's new-found major business connections: the powerhouse of Singapore; now, two destinations in the Persian Gulf.

nname · #**15664** Posted **Dec 11, 2020, 7:04 AM**

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Some long-haul updates over the past month or so... mostly bad news

TK YVR-IST had been delayed again to Mar 14
AC YVR-BNE seems to be removed for S21, SYD is also questionable now (open for PY only)
AT had remove all long-haul flights completely from YVR for S21
AI had extended their YVR-DEL service until the end of S21, seems like the route is here to stay

Also, seems like AF opened YVR-CDG leg of PPT-YVR-CDG route for reservation. YVR-PPT leg is still unavailable.

casper · #**15665** Posted **Dec 12, 2020, 10:00 AM**

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Originally Posted by trofirhen

Yes, that's a good point. However, what I am really noticing is SEA's new-found major business connections: the powerhouse of Singapore; now, two destinations in the Persian Gulf.

Are the destinations in the Persian Gulf about traffic to from the Persian Gulf or is it mostly traffic to/from India?

A few years back when I was based in Victoria I would sometime clear customs in Seattle at the same time as the Dubai flight. It was a miserable experience. I know there is a new international arrival area in the work. Not certain where that is. Until that comes online YVR is still the better connection point.

The other factor that can not be discounted is the amount of Americans who were driving up to YVR from Seattle. The long-term parking lot had a lot of Washington state plates in it. Those travelers would not be stopped at the boarder. That will eventually return.

trofirhen · #**15666** Posted **Dec 12, 2020, 11:19 AM**

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Originally Posted by casper

Are the destinations in the Persian Gulf about traffic to from the Persian Gulf or is it mostly traffic to/from India?

> yes, I have wondered that, too. Maybe a bit of both? AA was supposed to be starting SEA - Bangalore, derailed temporarily due to COVID, of course. At any rate two destinations in The Persian Gulf is a status held by only big league cities. Seattle is joining the power cities club.

A few years back when I was based in Victoria I would sometime clear customs in Seattle at the same time as the Dubai flight. It was a miserable experience. I know there is a new international arrival area in the work. Not certain where that is. Until that comes online YVR is still the better connection point.

> Sorry, but YVR is a "better connection point" from where to where? I'm unclear what you mean.

The other factor that can not be discounted is the amount of Americans who were driving up to YVR from Seattle. The long-term parking lot had a lot of Washington state plates in it. Those travelers would not be stopped at the boarder. That will eventually return.

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hollywoodcory · #**15667** Posted **Dec 12, 2020, 6:02 PM**

WS January updates:

Not much different from what's planned in December, although it looks like PSP is being dropped.

CUN/PVR/SJD/LAX/PHX - All appear to be once weekly
HNL/OGG - Still 3x weekly each

zahav · #**15668** Posted **Dec 13, 2020, 2:43 AM**

Qatar is definitely tied to Alaska joining One World, as are the AA expansions. Will be interesting if SEA can sustain all of the additions, especially the Delta ones. Alaska and its entry into One World are great and will mean AA has more access too. But DL might decide it is too crowded and drop some flights

casper · #**15669** Posted **Dec 13, 2020, 1:18 PM**

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SEA is a terrible airport to do International -> International or Domestic.

The custom wait area can not handle the crowds at peak times. It is common to be held up stairs for an extended period of time before you can even get to a line up.

Baggage is not transferred.

The baggage hall are over crowded.

connect2source · #**15670** Posted **Dec 13, 2020, 4:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by casper

SEA is a terrible airport to do International -> International or Domestic.

The custom wait area can not handle the crowds at peak times. It is common to be held up stairs for an extended period of time before you can even get to a line up.

Baggage is not transferred.

The baggage hall are over crowded.

SEA is building an entirely new international's arrivals facility, was supposed to open in 2020.

https://www.portseattle.org/sites/default/files/2018-07/POS_2018-13_IAF_1Pager.pdf

casper · #**15671** Posted **Dec 14, 2020, 6:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by connect2source

SEA is building an entirely new international's arrivals facility, was supposed to open in 2020.

https://www.portseattle.org/sites/default/files/2018-07/POS_2018-13_IAF_1Pager.pdf

It should improve things I hope. When I was living in Victoria it was a pain. Arriving on a Q400 without pre-clearance every flight was to an international gate. Now I am in Vancouver and with pre-clearance you avoid a fair bit of that.

One other limitation on Seattle is the airport closes around midnight. I have had the last flight out to Vancouver a few time. Any delay and everyone at the airline is rushing to get the flight out before curfew. The attitude is take the first seat you see open. Put the bags in the bin and will sort out the details after we are in the air. If we don't get the door closed in the next 5 minutes we are spending the night in Seattle.

trofirhen · #**15672** Posted **Dec 14, 2020, 10:24 PM**

However "bad" SEA-TAC may be, and however "good" is YVR, I think it is safe to say that Seattle conintues to power up and snag destinations that, for the moment, YVR can only wish for.
That said, Vancouver would need to exert a more "corporate" presence. And in order to do that, well, somethin's gotta give.......
It doesn't seem to be happening, at least on any scale ... hopefully this may change.

hollywoodcory · #**15673** Posted **Dec 15, 2020, 6:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by hollywoodcory

WS January updates:

Not much different from what's planned in December, although it looks like PSP is being dropped.

CUN/PVR/SJD/LAX/PHX - All appear to be once weekly
HNL/OGG - Still 3x weekly each

Update:
PSP is still there, but reduced to once weekly.

Also looks like KOA is planned to resume on January 9, once weekly.

YVR Bruce · #**15674** Posted **Dec 25, 2020, 6:22 PM**

BNE-YVR-GRU

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA7226

Was this a Santa run? or maybe YVR finally got it's South American connection, for Christmas.

jollyburger · #**15675** Posted **Dec 25, 2020, 7:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by YVR Bruce

BNE-YVR-GRU

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA7226

Was this a Santa run? or maybe YVR finally got it's South American connection, for Christmas.

Looks like it's been running as a cargo plane since April and did a Sydney-Toronto run:

https://skiesmag.com/news/air-canadas-focus-on-cargo-results-in-a-noteworthy-flight/

nname · #**15676** Posted **Dec 25, 2020, 9:00 PM**

AC22** and AC72** are all cargo flights.

casper · #**15677** Posted **Dec 25, 2020, 10:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by YVR Bruce

BNE-YVR-GRU

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA7226

Was this a Santa run? or maybe YVR finally got it's South American connection, for Christmas.

As a cargo flight the timing is not overly important. If it were a passenger flight the timing leaving 3 hours later would have been idea. Departure after arrival of the flights from Asia and into Brazil first thing in the morning.

The afternoon return timing would have suffered the same issue as the Toronto flight. Idea departure would have been around midnight.

trofirhen · #**15678** Posted **Dec 26, 2020, 6:53 AM**

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Originally Posted by YVR Bruce

BNE-YVR-GRU

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA7226

Was this a Santa run? or maybe YVR finally got it's South American connection, for Christmas.

OK so it turns out to be just a cargo flight. But hey, at least a YVR - GRU flight. With positive affirmations maybe it'll become a pax flight...

Nites · #**15679** Posted **Jan 29, 2021, 7:41 AM**

Have never seen this thread this dead before. Surprised no one has posted anything about Air Canada deploying the 737 Max again...

Tvisforme · #**15680** Posted **Jan 29, 2021, 4:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by Nites

Have never seen this thread this dead before

Ask, and it shall be given you...

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Catharine Tunney · CBC News · Posted: Jan 29, 2021 9:55 AM ET

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-travel-measures-1.5892992