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Old Posted Oct 29, 2020, 5:21 PM
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Most of the active development applications in downtown have actually been received in 2020 or 2019.

Plus, the as of right developments see some of the fastest approval timelines in the province since Hamilton has done something very rare and actually provided half decent densities in zoning as of right. Many developments are able to skip the rezoning process because of this.
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how is it Vrancor can go full 🞵🞵🞵🞵 a'blazing on multiple sites , while others (seemingly well financed -many names here), are just sitting on sidelines, some with renders, and others with prime sites (KW/James N, Gore Park frontage -Robinsons/RBC site, south leg...). Have not found anything on Bentall Green Oak , but their site at Main/Caroline they dropped $20M on , you would think would be digging a hole in.
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2020, 5:31 PM
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Because Darko is money laundering through his developments so he doesn't care if they are profitable, or timed to be the most profitable?
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2020, 5:54 PM
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Transfer convo here...

how is it Vrancor can go full 🞵🞵🞵🞵 a'blazing on multiple sites , while others (seemingly well financed -many names here), are just sitting on sidelines, some with renders, and others with prime sites (KW/James N, Gore Park frontage -Robinsons/RBC site, south leg...). Have not found anything on Bentall Green Oak , but their site at Main/Caroline they dropped $20M on , you would think would be digging a hole in.
Most likely? he's more willing to move forward on lower margins.

Vrancor also tends to build super cheap and cut a corner whenever possible to make a dime.

Bentall Green Oak is moving forward on their site, they have an active site plan application they submitted a few months ago. It takes a bit of time to get that approved (typically about a year, regardless of if you are in Hamilton or elsewhere in the province).

Hamilton's issue is that it is still a relatively affordable market, with high development costs that come with complicated downtown sites (providing parking becomes difficult, shoring is more expensive, less efficient layouts to accommodate tight site conditions, etc). Makes it challenging to make large developments work financially. That is the real reason stuff doesn't happen, not a slow moving city hall.

This has only recently started to change. The reason Hamilton is suddenly experiencing a boom in development proposals is because rents have skyrocketed these past few years. It's suddenly profitable to build apartment buildings as rents are now high enough to support the cost of new construction.

Also, because of these low margins, you get a lot of inexperienced developers looking to make an entry into the market. A lot of Hamilton's proposals have historically been made by groups like this. No real development experience or limited access to capital, making it much more likely they will manage to start construction. Again, nothing to do with City Hall.
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2020, 7:56 PM
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Darko builds and then sells his rental property. He uses that revenue to work on his next project. He owns all of his hotel projects.

Though I believe his latest project on King St West, he may end up keeping that property as I believe it'll contain his new headquarter. Their current HQ is a stone's throw away from the project.
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Because Darko is money laundering through his developments so he doesn't care if they are profitable, or timed to be the most profitable?
That's the thing about being crooked - at some point you've got to slink out of the shadows and clean those mountains of dirty dollar bills you've hoovered out of the pockets of perverts and addicts...
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2020, 11:58 PM
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Thanks everyone, all good with rentals if it spurs more folks living in downtown, would even give density bonuses for every affordable unit they include - and of course kill the height limit , especially around LRT and Go stations.
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Thanks for sharing this, it is cool. We need more lol.
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What a beauty!! I could look at it for an hour
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2020, 10:20 PM
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https://urbanicity.com/hamilton/real-est...st-of-hamiltons-upcoming-tower-projects/

Handy comprehensive list of the downtown & surroundings' developments. It says too that 191 Main West - the Mac Residence, is Under Construction
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Old Posted Nov 7, 2020, 5:40 PM
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Taken this morning. Crappy photo due to distance, but cool with all 3 cranes lined up.

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Old Posted Nov 7, 2020, 7:01 PM
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I had my aunt and uncle from Nova Scotia stay at my place for a while recently, they wanted to travel, but due to COVID, they are traveling domestically. My uncle grew up in Hamilton.

Anyways I took them to La Luna on King St, and they were gobsmacked at all of the recent changes in the city and the cranes. We ate at the patio, and they couldn't believe how Queen/King St is changing.

The last time they came to Hamilton was five years ago, so yeah, a lot has changed in such a short timeframe.
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Old Posted Nov 7, 2020, 7:08 PM
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I had my aunt and uncle from Nova Scotia stay at my place for a while recently, they wanted to travel, but due to COVID, they are traveling domestically. My uncle grew up in Hamilton.

Anyways I took them to La Luna on King St, and they were gobsmacked at all of the recent changes in the city and the cranes. We ate at the patio, and they couldn't believe how Queen/King St is changing.

The last time they came to Hamilton was five years ago, so yeah, a lot has changed in such a short timeframe.
That's for sure! And in another 5 years, WoW! Exciting times to be alive in Hamilton and surrounding area.
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Even that picture you took with the three cranes in the background, you won't be able to take the same picture in a year or two because of the McMaster Graduate Student Residence. Change is coming, and quickly!
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There is scaffolding up in the front of the Black Forest building right to the west corner and right to the top. It looks like there maybe some renovation going on.
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Not quite downtown, but I couldn't find the site's forum, don't even know if it exists.



I was on the bus just now, and this abandoned construction site just before King & Paradise has been worked on! They're about 1 storey below grade, and there's white tarps over the topsoil. Anybody remember what was planned for this spot?
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2020, 2:19 PM
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I was on the bus just now, and this abandoned construction site just before King & Paradise has been worked on! They're about 1 storey below grade, and there's white tarps over the topsoil. Anybody remember what was planned for this spot?
a 7-storey, 100-unit apartment building:

https://www.thespec.com/news/hamilton-re...-project-to-receive-city-incentives.html
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Strange we don't have a thread about this. Anyone able to find more information? I searched and couldn't.find anything. I'd love to see what this will look like. It also makes the fight against the one across the street even more ridiculous. Obviously this entire area will be redeveloped over the coming decade as it sits on a main street. That Food Basics plaza will hopefully be redeveloped one day and it would be nice if Hamilton joined the club of putting grocery stores in the first floor of condo units. With a property that large you could even build a market square with an ice rink and fountain and stuff. We need more public places.
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2020, 4:02 PM
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Anyone able to find more information? I searched and couldn't.find anything. I'd love to see what this will look like.
This COA document has drawings with the layout of the building and floorplans
https://pub-hamilton.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=230544
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2020, 6:57 PM
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The applicant on the documents is David Horwood which means this is an Effort Trust project.
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