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Old Posted Nov 20, 2020, 9:00 PM
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That map really shows how isolated the PNW is from the rest of the continent. You really get a sense of it when you are flying and you have to go over over a minimum of one hour of no-man's land.

I have been in BC for 30 years and I still haven't gotten use to how much longer the daylight is in summer and shorter in winter. Native BCers don't appreciate just how far south Ontario is and more so where I am from, London.
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A full half of Canada’s population lives here:

This region covers an area of roughly 50,000 square miles (about the same size as Pennsylvania), and all of it is located south of the Washington-Oregon border.





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So, basically, there are 12.8 million people in Pennsylvania and about 19 million people in a similar-sized area of southern Ontario/Quebec? Interesting.
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My go to is that:

1/3rd of Canadians live north of the 49th parallel (the west)
1/3rd of Canadians live between the 45th & 49th parallels (mid latitude eastern Canada)
1/3rd of Canadians live south of the 45th parallel (southern Ontario & southern NS)
You’re second 1/3 living between the 45th and 49th would also include around 450 000 people on Vancouver Island.
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So, basically, there are 12.8 million people in Pennsylvania and about 19 million people in a similar-sized area of southern Ontario/Quebec? Interesting.
Most of Pennsylvania is wooden hills. Not surprising at all that the Quebec-Windsor Corridor would be denser.

(And yes, I'm aware in this case it's actually more like the Windsor-Sherbrooke Corridor.).
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Well we could draw a circle around Philadelphia and say that it is denser than any European country (city-states excluded).. It is a manipulation of stats. What is interesting is how Ontario could soon one day become one of the ''big states''. By that that I mean similar in size to New York, Florida, Texas and California. 15 millions is not to be laugh at.
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Michigan's Upper Peninsula is now ours.



An additional 300K+ new Canadians and a new National Forest/Park.
Would love to have the UP as part of Canada. Beautiful country.
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Would love to have the UP as part of Canada. Beautiful country.
It's pretty depressed but I guess we could take it and make the Mackinac Bridge the "international" one. We should have had a piece of all 5 Great Lakes from day one, so this would rectify that historical injustice.
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Would love to have the UP as part of Canada. Beautiful country.
Agreed. Makes me wonder how differently UP would have developed had it been Canadian. Some of those areas aren't too far from major pop. centres in Minneapolis and Milwaukee. A larger Marquette or Sault is intriguing.
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Agreed. Makes me wonder how differently UP would have developed had it been Canadian. Some of those areas aren't too far from major pop. centres in Minneapolis and Milwaukee. A larger Marquette or Sault is intriguing.
I think it would have arguably been less developed.

Americans invested in things like road infrastructure at least 2 generations before Canadians did, and often spearheaded much more audacious projects, especially in remote locations.

By way of example, the 2 lane TCH along Lake Superior (Highway 17) didn't open until 1960, and it is an essential link for the whole country.

The Mackinac bridge was the 2nd longest suspension bridge in the world when it opened in 1957, and it basically just connects a remote part of Michigan to the rest of the state.
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I think it would have arguably been less developed.

Americans invested in things like road infrastructure at least 2 generations before Canadians did, and often spearheaded much more audacious projects, especially in remote locations.

By way of example, the 2 lane TCH along Lake Superior (Highway 17) didn't open until 1960, and it is an essential link for the whole country.

The Mackinac bridge was the 2nd longest suspension bridge in the world when it opened in 1957, and it basically just connects a remote part of Michigan to the rest of the state.
There was a big US Air Force base (Kinross, later Kincheloe) at the Sault in those days as well as the world's busiest locks. The defence aspect of the "Interstate And Defence" Highway system was important and the Sault was always considered a major potential enemy target, both during World War II and during the Cold War.
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Same as how Detroit looks a bit bigger than Toronto on satellite maps but has a smaller population.

It's interesting how the Prairies are a bit more developed in Canada, with Alberta in particular having nothing really comparable south of the border. Winnipeg is I guess the northern version of Minneapolis but they don't really have a Saskatoon or Regina either. Part of what's going on there is oil and maybe another part is the aridity of the plains that are farther south (which includes part of southern AB and SK).
Yeah the Dakotas and Montana are really thinly populated.

The Canadian Prairies is a genuine bonda fide cultural region, while in the US it seems to be more of an "empty zone" separating the Midwest from the interior West (the way the Canadian Shield separates southern Ontario from the Prairies in some ways).
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Here's a post inspired by another SSP thread in which we discussed watershed zones.



Trivia question for you guys.

>99% of Southern Quebec drains into the Gulf of St. Lawrence, but a little bit of it does not. Which part is it and where does its water go?

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Here's a post inspired by another SSP thread in which we discussed watershed zones.



Trivia question for you guys.

>99% of Southern Quebec drains into the Gulf of St. Lawrence, but a little bit of it does not. Which part is it and where does its water go?

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Easy one. A small amount of the border area next to Maine drains into the Saint John River

I think I recall hearing once that the mighty Saint John has the largest drainage basin on the east coast between the St. Lawrence and the Susquehanna.
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Easy one. A small amount of the border area next to Maine drains into the Saint John River

I think I recall hearing once that the mighty Saint John has the largest drainage basin on the east coast between the St. Lawrence and the Susquehanna.
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I think I recall hearing once that the mighty Saint John has the largest drainage basin on the east coast between the St. Lawrence and the Susquehanna.
I was always told the Saint John River was the largest (longest?) river system east of the Mississippi.
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That map really shows how much the diversion of the Churchill River into the Nelson River system in the 1960s added to Manitoba Hydro's Nelson River generating capacity.
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I was always told the Saint John River was the largest (longest?) river system east of the Mississippi.
The stat I heard was that the Saint John is the second longest on the east coast between the St. Lawrence and the Mississippi (except for the Susquehanna).

I was quite surprised to hear that the Susquehanna was up there, but a few years back I went to Cooperstown NY to go to the Baseball Hall of Fame, and the lake where Cooperstown is located is the headwaters of the Susquehanna, so it is a pretty long river.
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Hudson River basin?
That wouldn't be Southern Quebec. (Edit - thought you meant Hudson Bay. But Lake Champlain drains north into the Richelieu River. It's connected to the Hudson by a man-made canal, but doesn't flow in that direction; rather, it's the other way around, it's northwestern Vermont and NE Upstate NY that drain into the Gulf of St. Lawrence just like nearly all of populated Quebec.)

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Easy one. A small amount of the border area next to Maine drains into the Saint John River
That wouldn't be Southern Quebec. (You can see that bit on the map, it's darker blue and connects into NB.)

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