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Old Posted Sep 16, 2020, 10:58 AM
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So this will simply promote more growth in Cantley and Chelsea
Yeah unlike Ottawa the amalgamated city of Gatineau is far from all encompassing.

Anyway are these feel good rules or will they have a real impact?

For example large projects and street grid. Define both terms. Let's not pretend if you put a bunch of street grid tract homes east of the 366 they won't all be driving to work anyway.
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Gatineau has a new master plan that truly promotes urbanism. Some highlights:

  • Single family homes cannot be demolished and replaced with new single family houses;
  • No surface parking lots within 300 meters of major transit routes, and that includes future park-and-rides. Exceptions could be given to some public institutions (I assume hospitals, for example);
  • Large projects from private developers have to be green and built around a street grid (as opposed to a spaghetti factory) to encourage active transportation;
  • More protection of natural features like forests and wet lands;
  • Authorization to build residential within existing and future "Smart Centres";
  • Higher densities along established neighbourhoods served by current and future rapid transit;
  • Construction with sustainable materials.


https://www.ledroit.com/actualites/g...de63b20b1a0c2a
https://www.ledroit.com/actualites/g...1f198490795737
https://www.ledroit.com/actualites/g...4673e3ca8260ba
https://www.ledroit.com/actualites/g...c27c3efdabf6ed
A little bit more info I found in Le Droit.
  • Of 5,000 hectares of wetlands lands within Gatineau, 96.8% will be protected (if the rules are iron clad), which leaves 154 hectares available for redevelopment, though they might also receive protection;
  • In wooded areas, 60% of trees will have to be protected;
  • Any parking within 300 meters of rapid transit will have to be underground or within a parking garage, as I had mentioned. For the exceptions, Le Droit provides social housing as an example;
  • Within 700 meters of rapid transit, parking requirements will be slashed by 50%;
  • Twelve areas where more density will be required were identified. Heights could vary from 12 to 25 floors. Of those are the early 20th Century Wrightsville neighbourhood, roughly between the Ruisseau de la Brasserie and Gatineau Park from Saint-Raymond to Alexandre-Tâché. Buildings could reach up to 12 floors. Buckingham, Old Aylmer and Lorrain (villages), LaBrosse and La Gappe (big box store and strip malls along the RapiBus). Du Moulin, Mont-Bleu and Hautes-Plaines (already fairly dense).
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There are some upcoming presentations on The City's unique approach to the new OP. Links to register are at the link below.

From The City's website...

Transect

The City started to develop the new Official Plan around the 5 Big Moves of: growth, mobility, urban design, resilience and economic development in 2019. Community engagement occurred across the city to discuss these key concepts. You may have seen our team at one of over 70 events across the City. This feedback was incorporated into the Preliminary Policy Directions presented to Council in December 2019.

Through the discussions so far, the City has had over 50,000 engagements with residents and will continue our equity and inclusion informed outreach into 2021.

This discussion is helping the city develop new ideas for the plan. One of the key cornerstones of the New Official Plan is the Transect approach, which means the City will plan by context.

We are changing from a previous approach to plan by land-use in order to recognize the specific needs of neighbourhoods in different parts of the City. The Transect approach will focus on “form and function” by planning for the appropriate shape of new buildings, their relationship with public space, and how they function to be informed based on which Transect you live in.

Planning by Transect will allow the City of Ottawa to recognize the different contexts of the City’s varied geography and provide guidance as to how each area is to evolve.

We are proposing 6 different Transect areas across the city: Downtown, Inner Urban, Outer Urban, Suburban, Greenbelt and Rural. We are organizing 5 public presentations. These presentations will help residents learn what this new planning approach will propose for their neighbourhood.

Inner Urban: Tuesday, November 3

Rural: Wednesday, November 4

Outer Urban: Tuesday, November 10

Downtown: Thursday, November 12

Suburban: Monday, November 16

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The draft plan is now available online. Looks like some form of LRT is planned for Carling.

https://engage.ottawa.ca/the-new-official-plan
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The draft plan is now available online. Looks like some form of LRT is planned for Carling.

https://engage.ottawa.ca/the-new-official-plan
With a 2-stop BRT stub between Preston and Bronson

I would take the LRT/BRT maps with a grain of salt until the TMP is finished.
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With a 2-stop BRT stub between Preston and Bronson

I would take the LRT/BRT maps with a grain of salt until the TMP is finished.
Didn't notice that lol
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For those looking for the maps, it's the one called "C Series" under "Full Draft New Official Plan". Interesting to see there are still plans for a Jasmine station and to extend the Trillium Line across the POW bridge. I don't see the point of building a LRT on Carling however. Everyone would have to transfer twice to get to downtown and the Trillium Line is only going to run every 12 minutes. I would rather see a median transitway with priority lights on Carling.
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The way they show transfer stations along the Trillium Line / SE Transitway from Heron Road to South Keys Station is... atypical...

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For those looking for the maps, it's the one called "C Series" under "Full Draft New Official Plan". Interesting to see there are still plans for a Jasmine station and to extend the Trillium Line across the POW bridge. I don't see the point of building a LRT on Carling however. Everyone would have to transfer twice to get to downtown and the Trillium Line is only going to run every 12 minutes. I would rather see a median transitway with priority lights on Carling.
Buses or streetcars, it will still require two transfers. For now, I think the planned bus lanes are more than enough along Carling. Depending on how ridership builds with the bus lanes and significant TOD along the corridor, streetcars (own RoW in the median, transit priority at traffic lights) could be justified within a few decades as a way to better service Carling and relieve the Confederation Line.
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Buses or streetcars, it will still require two transfers. For now, I think the planned bus lanes are more than enough along Carling. Depending on how ridership builds with the bus lanes and significant TOD along the corridor, streetcars (own RoW in the median, transit priority at traffic lights) could be justified within a few decades as a way to better service Carling and relieve the Confederation Line.
Buses could keep going on Preston to the Confederation Line like the 85 does however.
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Developers urged city to consider their lands in urban boundary expansion
"No submissions were received asking for lands not to be considered — they were universally requests to add land to the urban boundary."

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Publishing date: Jan 16, 2021 • 3 hours ago • 3 minute read




The city received nearly 50 submissions from developers or their consultants making cases for including their lands inside an expanded urban boundary as municipal planners decided the best candidates for joining the growing suburbs.

Now that council has decided how much more land should be brought inside the urban boundary, it needs to figure out which lands will receive the honour of becoming part of suburban Ottawa.

The land review comes with major financial implications for developers who have acquired sites with the hopes and expectations that those parcels will be part of an urban boundary expansion.

It’s a competition involving big companies with big money on the line.

A joint meeting of council’s planning committee and agriculture and rural affairs committee scheduled for Jan. 25 will provide developers, and anyone else who wants to speak on the matter, opportunities to weigh in on the city’s list of properties to be included in the urban boundary.

Committee members have been told to prepare for the possibility of a multi-day meeting, depending on how many people want to make presentations.

Included in a report for councillors made public Friday was a list of properties that were the subjects of lobbying by developers or their consultants. There were 48 entries on the city’s list of unsolicited submissions, and some involved the same properties and multiple contacts with the city.

The developers and consultants presented information on properties at every corner of the suburbs, including Kanata North, Stittsville, Barrhaven, Riverside South, Orléans and Cumberland.

The city wanted all unsolicited submissions by the end of last June so staff had time to review the information, but the report to councillors said staff were still receiving submissions in early 2021.

“No submissions were received asking for lands not to be considered — they were universally requests to add land to the urban boundary,” the staff report said.

While developers provided their own scoring or analyses, city staff said their information wasn’t very helpful because of its “speculative nature.”

The city is using criteria and scoring system to determine which lands should be included in the urban boundary. In general, the properties should be in close proximity to public transit and have existing or planned municipal infrastructure, such as water services, wastewater services and roads.

The city has found 1,011 hectares of land that should be brought inside the urban boundary, but the council-approved direction calls for 1,281 hectares to be added to the urban area.

To make up the difference, staff say council could consider lands that didn’t receiving passing scores, but are near the lands proposed to be brought into the urban boundary, or create between one and three new communities.

A project called Tewin is included as an option for a new community. It’s a land-development partnership between the Algonquins of Ontario and Taggart Investments looking to transform a swath of land southwest of Highway 417 and Boundary Road.

The other two new communities being floated as options are in the areas of South March in Kanata and Riverside South.

The staff also report recommends creating a “Gold Belt” similar to the Greenbelt created in the 1950s, consisting of agricultural land, natural areas and key mineral aggregate resource areas.

The Gold Belt would effectively create “ultimate boundaries” for Barrhaven, Riverside South, Stittsville and Orléans, limiting new urban expansion between the Greenbelt and the Gold Belt.

“The intent of the inner boundary of the Gold Belt in the new official plan would be to contain, until the end of the century, all future urban expansions and any new communities,” the report said.

“This would also assist in preserving the unique identities of the city’s villages and ensure they are not overtaken by future urban expansions. Leapfrogging of the Gold Belt for new urban land would be prohibited in new official plan policy.”

On Saturday, Ecology Ottawa expressed criticism of the city’s intention to limit future urban expansions, saying that, without stronger policies, it was just a “mirage.”

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I hope the city doesn't approve the ones in Riverside South. I'm afraid the Trillium Line might suffer from overcrowding once Riverside South gets full developed, even without extending the urban boundary.
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I hope the city doesn't approve the ones in Riverside South. I'm afraid the Trillium Line might suffer from overcrowding once Riverside South gets full developed, even without extending the urban boundary.
That would be a good thing IMO. It could mean a faster upgrade of Trillium to full double track/electric or, much less likely, the possible consideration of an alternative n/s route (Bank).
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City staff propose 'gold belt' to hem in future Ottawa development
Map released ahead of Jan. 25 debate of lands to be brought inside urban boundary

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Posted: Jan 16, 2021 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: January 16




The City of Ottawa is about to have a second marathon debate about where to allow future suburbs to be built, and this time staff propose hemming in development by creating what's being dubbed the "gold belt."

Eight months after city council decided to expand the urban boundary by 1,281 hectares to help house a growing population, senior city planners have released the map of which properties should be developed — and which property owners stand to see values soar if their lands are rezoned.

They include areas north of Kanata on March Road, near the future Bowesville O-Train station in the south end, and at the southern edge of Orléans.

Scoring rural properties on such things as how close they are to transit and how costly it would be to build pipes and roads proved a challenge over the past several months, however.

"The easy land has been gobbled up in years past, in previous boundary expansions," said Coun. Scott Moffatt, who belongs to a group of councillors that meets about the new official plan. "So now we're looking at those leftover pieces and where we can [grow], knowing council was clear we would not be touching agricultural lands."

Staff struggled to come up with all 1,281 hectares council approved adding in May 2020 because they had too many issues with "sub-optimal" lands.

Instead, they recommended converting 1,011 hectares of rural land to urban for now to meet provincial requirements, and then spending the next five years studying three options for making up the 270-hectare shortfall.

That opens the door to creating an entirely new suburb.

For instance, one option involves a huge parcel near the Amazon warehouse southeast of the city where the Algonquins of Ontario envision a community of 35,000 to 45,000 people called Tewin, which they would build with developers Taggart.

With council determined to protect farmland, staff have also proposed a way to rein in urban development through to the end of the century.

They recommend establishing a "gold belt" or "countryside belt" of farm fields and mineral deposits that would separate existing Kanata, Orléans, Barrhaven and other new communities from rural villages.



It's possible to keep urban Ottawa from growing beyond that belt for decades, staff said, so long as Ottawa manages to house more of its growing population — projected to rise from one million to 1.4 million by 2046 — within existing neighbourhoods.

In addition to the proposed residential lands, city staff also have mapped out an extra 140 hectares for future e-commerce distribution warehouses and other industries at Highway 417 and Carp Road and between Highway 416 and Barnsdale Road.

Last May, a joint meeting of Ottawa's planning and rural affairs committees went on for three days and heard from more than 100 people.

The discussions are watched closely because there's money to be made when the city brings land inside the urban line and allows it to be developed.

Coun. Jan Harder, who chairs the planning committee, said this week she expects another "marathon" for this sequel to last year's urban boundary discussion. The Jan. 25 meeting could well spill over multiple days as well, she said.

City council ultimately votes on the matter Feb. 10, and the approved urban boundary map will be used in the upcoming new official plan, a major document that affects all planning decisions and is set to be tabled in June.

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That would be a good thing IMO. It could mean a faster upgrade of Trillium to full double track/electric or, much less likely, the possible consideration of an alternative n/s route (Bank).
Phase 3 LRT will probably be more politically popular than rebuilding the Trillium Line again. We just have to look at Montréal where they keep extending transit farther in the suburbs, even if the system is already running over 100% of its capacity in the core.

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Phase 3 LRT will probably be more politically popular than rebuilding the Trillium Line again. We just have to look at Montréal where they keep extending transit farther in the suburbs, even if the system is already running over 100% of its capacity in the core.
The Barrhaven extension won't help Riverside South or the Trillium Line. Something will need to be done to better serve Riverside South at some point in time.

I do expect urban Ottawa will continue to be ignored in favour of the suburbs for years to come, as has mostly been the case in Montreal and Toronto over the last 30+ years.
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I don't understand the Riverside South boundary expansion. Would it not be preferable to hug the existing boundary as much as possible, and encompass the Trillium Line instead of allowing a 2-3 km long rogue suburban patch? I know they are trying to "preserve" agricultural lands, but this is a bit much.

The "Gold Belt" is an interesting idea, but it needs to be far less porous than the Greenbelt turned out to be. The "rural" villages also need to include strict development boundaries for this "Belt" concept to work, because so far, some of them have been booming, Richmond in particular.

Interesting that Navan, and Manotick to a certain extent, will be allowed to be swallowed-up by their respective big suburb next door.

E-commerce would be far better suited on the 416 and 417 east, not the 417 at Carp.
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I'd be all-in on the idea of the Gold Belt if, and only if, it replaces the green belt (not in addition to) and future planning and zoning decisions are pro-intensification and made with this new strategy in mind. To ensure we dont just fill up the rest of the boundary with SFH and the find ourselves in this same situation in 30-40 years.

If not, then the Gold Belt will be a repeat of the Green Belt where it does not achieve its objective and development just "skips the belt". It would also drive down available space (and drive up) real estate prices even more in the region..
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I would be supportive of redeveloping parts of the Greenbelt within 1 kilometer of rapid transit and highways, but preserve most of the remaining lands and any eco-sensitive lands that might be near transit/highways.

Bill Teron had a similar proposal to the Goldbelt, in exchange for redeveloping parts of the Greenbelt, back in 2007.

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I'm surprised that parcel at the SW corner of Barrhaven made it in. I thought it was left out in the past because of proximity to the Trail Rd dump. I hope whoever buys a house there enjoys spending lots of time inside.
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