AUSTIN | Projects & Construction III - Page 281

drummer · #**5601** Posted **Nov 19, 2020, 7:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by drummer

Doesn't LA have a couple that are taller?

Edit: I just looked it up. These are from Wikipedia, so I'm not sure how accurate the numbers are...here are the 1000ft+ towers west of the Mississippi.

Wilshire Grand (Los Angeles): 1,100 ft / 335 m
Salesforce Tower (San Francisco): 1,070 ft / 326 m
**98 Red River (Austin)**: 1,023 ft / 311 m (is this the agreed-upon height?)
U.S. Bank Tower (Los Angeles): 1,018 ft / 310 m
JP Morgan Chase Tower (Houston): 1,002 ft / 305 m

I updated my post with the above as other folks were replying.

drummer · #**5602** Posted **Nov 19, 2020, 7:13 PM**

What would be cool is if this gets built, they love the success, and then come back and do something 100 ft taller at 99 Red River...

IluvATX · #**5603** Posted **Nov 19, 2020, 7:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by drummer

Doesn't LA have a couple that are taller?

Edit: I just looked it up. These are from Wikipedia, so I'm not sure how accurate the numbers are...here are the 1000ft+ towers west of the Mississippi.

Wilshire Grand (Los Angeles): 1,100 ft / 335 m
Salesforce Tower (San Francisco): 1,070 ft / 326 m
**98 Red River (Austin)**: 1,023 ft / 311 m (is this the agreed-upon height?)
U.S. Bank Tower (Los Angeles): 1,018 ft / 310 m
JP Morgan Chase Tower (Houston): 1,002 ft / 305 m

The height got changed to 1,030 ft on the Austin subforum.

drummer · #**5604** Posted **Nov 19, 2020, 7:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by IluvATX

The height got changed to 1,030 ft on the Austin subforum.

Ok, good to know, thanks. The ranking would remain the same, but a few extra feet is always nice!

Dale · #**5605** Posted **Nov 19, 2020, 8:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by H2O

No. Just 4/11 currently, but they have enough power to block some things. I guess the jury is still out on our newest Council Member. It seems like she might side more with the majority, but we will have to wait and see. Two current Council Members (one on each side) are also in run-offs. Their opponents are quite far right and would likely side with the NIMBYs.

Interesting, I thought the far left were the NIMBYs.

The ATX · #**5606** Posted **Nov 19, 2020, 8:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dale

Interesting, I thought the far left were the NIMBYs.

I would say it is both. NIMBYism seems to be a rare non-partisan issue.

ILUVSAT · #**5607** Posted **Nov 19, 2020, 10:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by drummer

Ok, good to know, thanks. The ranking would remain the same, but a few extra feet is always nice!

Based on ATX's diagrams and the FAA filing - this may actually be closer to 1042'.

EDIT: Based on compelling arguments on the Austin Forum, I'm currently in agreement that this tower is about 1031' in height.

Wilshire Grand has a 166' spire bringing it to 1100'. The peak of 98 Red River/Waller Creek Tower's roofline will be just under 100' taller than Wilshire's roof.

ATXboom · #**5608** Posted **Nov 20, 2020, 7:16 PM**

I second the notion that NIMBYism is non partisan. People want what they want for neighbors and context regardless of politics. But philosophically, regulating what can / can't be built is left leaning.

nixcity · #**5609** Posted **Nov 20, 2020, 8:40 PM**

I disagree, I don't know a single republican who would be okay with seeing a single family neighbor's home torn down for a small apartment complex.

eburress · #**5610** Posted **Nov 20, 2020, 9:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by nixcity

I disagree, I don't know a single republican who would be okay with seeing a single family neighbor's home torn down for a small apartment complex.

You don't know me, but I (frequently Republican) would be delighted by that.

GoldenBoot · #**5611** Posted **Nov 20, 2020, 9:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by nixcity

I disagree, I don't know a single republican who would be okay with seeing a single family neighbor's home torn down for a small apartment complex.

One would have to raise a least several homes for a "small apartment complex." Plus, there's going to be a zoning issue in accomplishing said feat.

I'm a conservative and would be in favor of more dense development in the inner city - especially if they got a great buyout deal! Heck, if the price was right, I might sell too.

Having said that, if said development was to occur in the suburbs, that would be more challenging.

IluvATX · #**5612** Posted **Nov 20, 2020, 9:31 PM**

Just some 500’+ Towers under construction
848’

594’

542’

573’

516’

ILUVSAT · #**5613** Posted **Nov 20, 2020, 10:20 PM**

^^^You forgot Hanover Republic Square (514', 44 floors).

IluvATX · #**5614** Posted **Nov 20, 2020, 10:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by ILUVSAT

^^^You forgot Hanover Republic Square (514', 44 floors).

I always forget about that one. I added it.

ILUVSAT · #**5615** Posted **Nov 20, 2020, 10:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by IluvATX

I always forget about that one. I added it.

Yeah...she's kind of tucked in there.

Dale · #**5616** Posted **Nov 21, 2020, 12:49 AM**

Yeah, just a few 500-footers.

KevinFromTexas · #**5617** Posted **Nov 21, 2020, 1:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by ILUVSAT

^^^You forgot Hanover Republic Square (514', 44 floors).

Hanover Republic Square is actually 516 feet. Building page:

http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=116108

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Originally Posted by IluvATX

I always forget about that one. I added it.

The one that you added is Hanover 3rd & Brazos which is 514 feet. Both of those have 44 floors. I know, it's confusing. Building page:

http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=119520

Austin has at least seven 500 footers in development, and 4 of those are under construction.

IluvATX · #**5618** Posted **Nov 21, 2020, 2:24 AM**

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Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas

Hanover Republic Square is actually 516 feet. Building page:

http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=116108

The one that you added is Hanover 3rd & Brazos which is 514 feet. Both of those have 44 floors. I know, it's confusing. Building page:

http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=119520

Austin has at least seven 500 footers in development, and 4 of those are under construction.

I changed it. Hanover should be changed to 516’ in the Austin subforum.

ILUVSAT · #**5619** Posted **Nov 21, 2020, 7:37 AM**

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Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas

Hanover Republic Square is actually 516 feet. Building page:

http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=116108

The one that you added is Hanover 3rd & Brazos which is 514 feet. Both of those have 44 floors. I know, it's confusing. Building page:

http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=119520

Austin has at least seven 500 footers in development, and 4 of those are under construction.

Kevin,

The image posted is of Hanover Republic Square (you can see that it is adjacent to the Hotel ZaZa). Also, according to the Austin sub-forums - Hanover Brazos is 45 stories and 513' and Hanover Republic Square is 44 stories and 514'. If these are incorrect, either you or TheATX need to make the appropriate adjustments.

Many thanks.

KevinFromTexas · #**5620** Posted **Nov 21, 2020, 11:46 AM**

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Originally Posted by ILUVSAT

Kevin,

The image posted is of Hanover Republic Square (you can see that it is adjacent to the Hotel ZaZa). Also, according to the Austin sub-forums - Hanover Brazos is 45 stories and 513' and Hanover Republic Square is 44 stories and 514'. If these are incorrect, either you or TheATX need to make the appropriate adjustments.

Many thanks.

Before IluvATX edited his post, he had the rendering up for Hanover 3rd & Brazos. He was only posting projects that were under construction. Hanover 3rd & Brazos is not under construction, but Hanover Republic Square is.

The difference in height for Hanover Republic Square is because the first elevations we saw didn't show the mechanical penthouse. There had been some modification to the roof that added height. I had the 516 foot height listed in my files, but I'm not sure why the thread title wasn't updated.

Here's my post explaining the bump in height when those elevations came out last year.
https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...&postcount=122

As for Hanover 3rd & Brazos, I'm not sure why I said 514 feet. It is 513 feet according to the elevations. However, there was an FAA permit filed in August that said 514 feet.

FAA permit info.
https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...4&postcount=97

My post with with the 513 foot height from the site plan that was posted to the AULCC page in June.
https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...8&postcount=91