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Originally Posted by Skintreesnail
I get people's frustration with all of this and it makes me sad to see businesses close, especially small business which is responsible for a lot of the vitality in this city, and cities in general, but I don't know what the answer is outside of these restrictions. The virus is deadly and life-altering, and we've already seen that if you give people an inch they'll take a mile. I'd like to just leave everything up to the individual to do the right thing, but I don't see it as realistic. This as been made so political that we need the guidance and objectivity that science brings. I mean we need that in a non-political scenario, but in spades now. It's gotten to the point where my own parents, who have plenty of health problems, don't wear masks or socially distance themselves out of spite and the miss-guided notion that "herd immunity" is the solution to everything. It makes me so frustrated, not only with them, but with the politicians that turned this into the clusterf!ck that it is. I mean, they might die simply over politics. To me, that's insane. Maybe if we had a more timely reaction at the start, that everyone got on board with following the guidelines from our health officials, then maybe we wouldn't need to have the lockdowns, or at least as severe as they are. But there's no use in musing over might-have-beens when we're here in the present. We need to deal with it somehow and to me the loss of business, while painful, is preferable to the loss of life.
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I'm really sorry about your parents. That's a really difficult situation. I hope they get through this ok.
Fortunately no one especially close to me is like that but that type of thinking runs rampant in my wife's extended family. And unfortunately this does not seem to be a disease with karma in mind. My wife's great aunt and uncle both died from covid. Despite the fact that as far as we know, they were largely following best practices for dealing with covid. But they did allow their children and grandchildren to visit them, one of whom gave them covid. The craziest part is even after the deaths of their parents, none of them seem to have changed their behavior. This pandemic has really exposed what has clearly become a pandemic of stupidity in this country.
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Originally Posted by Boku
They did work, to some extent. Don't you remember "flattening the curve"? The curve flattened, and it bought some time. The problem is we just used that time to do...what?
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Exactly. If not for the earlier lockdown we'd be in much worse place today. And the earlier lockdown was effective even with plenty of people disregarding it and acting like —. If people took it seriously the first time and didn't act like selfish — in the interim we might not need another lockdown now.
Though as easy as it is to get annoyed with the selfish behavior of individuals, i reserve most of my anger for our failed government that knee capped these lockdown measures by not providing the necessary support to allow most people to actually follow the health guidelines. Their failure is truly incredible when you compare it to how other wealthy nations around the world responded.
Some here are listing negative outcomes from the lockdown as though the way to respond to these negative outcomes is to not lockdown and needlessly kill people. The answer to dealing with the issues that lockdowns cause is to provide people with the support they need to get through the lockdowns... Not just give up and let covid kill millions.
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