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Experienced a huge arcing flash last night as my train was departing Tunney's. Very, very loud bang followed by a shower of sparks visible through the window. The lights in the cabin briefly went out (presumably due to loss of power). I was certain the train would go out of service but we actually just continued on towards Bayview like nothing happened. No announcement or anything from the operator. At Bayview, about 50% of the passengers disembarked (I'm fairly certain that for most, this was not their actual destination). I stayed on until my destination but was kind of on edge for the remainder of the trip, because I'll admit, it scared the sh*t out of me.

Looks as though RTM still hasn't got that cleaning regime down to a science yet
With no Trillium service, a poor bus replacement and half the walk-in destinations at about the same distance as Tunney's, I would come to the same conclusion.

Quick question, what's half (#)? When I read half, I was imagining dozens of people, but then I remembered the pandemic.
     
     
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With no Trillium service, a poor bus replacement and half the walk-in destinations at about the same distance as Tunney's, I would come to the same conclusion.

Quick question, what's half (#)? When I read half, I was imagining dozens of people, but then I remembered the pandemic.
I would estimate around 30 people on my car (not sure about the other car), so around 15 disembarked. 30 is actually on the higher end of the number of passengers I’ve been seeing lately, although granted I do typically ride in the late evening.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 17, 2020, 7:35 PM
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I would estimate around 30 people on my car (not sure about the other car), so around 15 disembarked. 30 is actually on the higher end of the number of passengers I’ve been seeing lately, although granted I do typically ride in the late evening.
Impressive. I've taken the train several times since March, always during the day. Once during the week. Never more than maybe 5, maybe 10 people per car (48 meter unit).
     
     
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Impressive. I've taken the train several times since March, always during the day. Once during the week. Never more than maybe 5, maybe 10 people per car (48 meter unit).
That’s pretty much in line with what I typically see as well, although I do feel ridership is slowly ramping up as the weather gets colder. I got on a train at Rideau during a weekday afternoon last week and was shocked to see that the train somewhat resembled an off-peak level of ridership pre-pandemic (I even had to stand to avoid coming too close to others!)
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 18, 2020, 5:18 PM
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Derailment at LRT yard contributed to service delay Wednesday morning

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Publishing date: Nov 18, 2020 • Last Updated 1 hour ago • 1 minute read


A train derailment at the LRT yard contributed to service delays Wednesday morning, according to transit management.

John Manconi, general manager of transportation services, told the the transit commission there were 14 trains available at the morning launch, then a train derailed in the tunnel that connects the Belfast yard with the main line. The tunnel is not part of the main line that carries the travelling public.

Manconi said the cause of the derailment is under investigation and noted that derailments in train yards aren’t uncommon. He said there have been fewer than 10 yard derailments at the Belfast yard.

Transit operations director Troy Charter said it was one axle with two wheels that derailed.

A brake issue on a train at uOttawa Station also contributed to the service delay, which for some customers lasted 20 minutes.

No injuries and no train damaged reported so far.

Manconi said Transpo takes seriously any delay that lasts more than five minutes.

“We don’t minimize this at all. Our goal is 100 per cent,” Manconi said.

The service blunder on the day of a transit commission meeting was unfortunate for OC Transpo and Rideau Transit Group since the Confederation Line has been posting record reliability stats recently. The LRT system has been delivering 99 per cent of planned trips and RTG has been supplying the mandatory 15 trains for the morning peak period.

But as Manconi explained to the commission, “you’re only as good as your last rush hour.”

Manconi was frustrated that Transpo was slow to notify customers about the LRT delay.

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Derailment at LRT yard contributed to service delay Wednesday morning
Did they ever complete the automation in the yard? I thought that was a contributing factor to the first derailment. According to Mr. Manconi there have been a few more since.
     
     
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Some derailments have happened in the Belfast yard, fewer than 10. But Manconi says having a derailment on the main Confederation Line -- which hasn't happened -- would be "very problematic". #ottcity
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Is that 10 since launch or going back to the first test trains on the track? Seems like a lot.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 20, 2020, 12:47 PM
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Installation of new heaters to interrupt LRT service for 2 days
Confederation Line to close partially on Sunday, Nov. 22, and entirely Sunday, Nov. 29

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Posted: Nov 19, 2020 4:36 PM ET | Last Updated: November 19


LRT service along the Confederation Line will be interrupted for two days in November as crews install heaters to try to prevent track switches from jamming in winter weather.

Replacement buses will run during partial track closures on Nov. 22 and Nov. 29, both Sundays, the city says.

On Nov. 22, service shuts down between Hurdman and Blair stations and entrances to Tremblay, St-Laurent and Cyrville stations will be closed.

On Nov. 29, the entire O-Train line will be closed, along with all entrances except Blair station.

On both days, Blair Station will be open to help riders access replacement buses, as will the pedestrian bridge at Gloucester Centre, the city said.

Last winter, snow accumulation appeared to cause switches on the eastern leg of the Confederation Line to malfunction, one of the key causes of the delays that beset the transit system.

The Trillium Line has switch heaters powered by propane and natural gas, whereas the newer Confederation Line's were originally electric. The new heaters being installed will be powered by natural gas.

With files from CBC's Kate Porter

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Surprised there is no mention of Hurdman. It also has "temporary" canopies but unlike the other two stations, is expected to see high passenger transfer volumes well into the future.
If only they had listened to actual living, breating, experienced Ottawa transit passengers when they were designing the stations and bus loops where they have now had to deploy scaffolds and hoardings and "temporary canopies".
     
     
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St Laurent station upstairs still has disconnected cold windy unpleasant "temporary canopies".
For the same price, a fully station connected indoor waiting zone could have been built.
But as always, the powers that be are not the users.
     
     
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If only they had listened to actual living, breating, experienced Ottawa transit passengers when they were designing the stations and bus loops where they have now had to deploy scaffolds and hoardings and "temporary canopies".
That is because the stations must first and foremost, look good. Keeping passengers dry, and warm and out of the weather is a nice after thought.
     
     
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https://rtg-rtm.com/en/news/photos-and-videos/

RTM has a video detailing the maintenance work that they do... They mention certain aspects in great detail, though I can't imagine why they would

Some neat footage either way!
     
     
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I called it years ago now that it would be line 3 to bayshore, line 4 to airport. It was a given back when they left those numbers off the big renumbering scheme
CTV Edmonton: OC Transpo rolls out colours, station names for future LRT routes.
https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/oc-transpo-rol...on-names-for-future-lrt-routes-1.5205788
     
     
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This conversation is all over the place right now. Wondering if we should have a "O-Train Wayfinding" thread (or maybe we already have one somewhere). Anyway, I've written to my Councillor:

Good evening,

I've taken time to familiarize myself with the new O-Train system map and have a few comments. 

The colour of Line 3 is not clear. I've heard brown, gold, olive and mustard over the last few hours between social media and my household. In many cities, lines are identified by colour in conversation (prend la ligne orange et transfert à la ligne bleu pour vous rendre à l'UdeM), but that sort of exchange could be confusing with such an ambiguous colour. I understand that OC Transpo had to choose colours that can be distinguished by those who are visually impaired, but there must be better choices. 

My second criticism relates to the Line numbers. Having Lines 1 and 3 as our backbone heading east-west along with 2 and 4 in the south is not intuitive. I believe numbering the Confederation Lines 1 and 2 and the Trilliums 3 and 4 would be more logical. I realize this would change the old numbering, but this is our opportunity while the Trillium is closed and we are re-considering the wayfinding anyway. 

Finally, the results of the public consultation on name changes have not been released. In fact, the names have not changed at all based on OC Transpo's original suggestions. I've heard a lot of criticism on several station names, such as Montréal (better associated with Vanier, and the station is located where the street name changes), Sherbourne (secondary street that is not widely known), New Orchard (minor street that is unknown by most), Corso Italia (not widely used) and Mooney's Bay (not part of the consultation, but the name is highly criticized due to the distance from its namesake). I would love to see a report released with citizen feedback and other name suggestions. 

Thank you for taking the time to consider my comments and have a good evening.
     
     
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This conversation is all over the place right now. Wondering if we should have a "O-Train Wayfinding" thread (or maybe we already have one somewhere). Anyway, I've written to my Councillor:

Good evening,

I've taken time to familiarize myself with the new O-Train system map and have a few comments. 

The colour of Line 3 is not clear. I've heard brown, gold, olive and mustard over the last few hours between social media and my household. In many cities, lines are identified by colour in conversation (prend la ligne orange et transfert à la ligne bleu pour vous rendre à l'UdeM), but that sort of exchange could be confusing with such an ambiguous colour. I understand that OC Transpo had to choose colours that can be distinguished by those who are visually impaired, but there must be better choices. 

My second criticism relates to the Line numbers. Having Lines 1 and 3 as our backbone heading east-west along with 2 and 4 in the south is not intuitive. I believe numbering the Confederation Lines 1 and 2 and the Trilliums 3 and 4 would be more logical. I realize this would change the old numbering, but this is our opportunity while the Trillium is closed and we are re-considering the wayfinding anyway. 

Finally, the results of the public consultation on name changes have not been released. In fact, the names have not changed at all based on OC Transpo's original suggestions. I've heard a lot of criticism on several station names, such as Montréal (better associated with Vanier, and the station is located where the street name changes), Sherbourne (secondary street that is not widely known), New Orchard (minor street that is unknown by most), Corso Italia (not widely used) and Mooney's Bay (not part of the consultation, but the name is highly criticized due to the distance from its namesake). I would love to see a report released with citizen feedback and other name suggestions. 

Thank you for taking the time to consider my comments and have a good evening.
These are all good points. I've sent a similar email to my councillor echoing the above.

Minor details aside, I'm happy that they went this route with regard to naming and numbering the various lines. I always thought it would be silly to consider the airport spur as part of Line 2 when it is pretty apparent that it will operate independently of the main line for the foreseeable future.

With the new Lines 1 and 3, we have a similar situation to Edmonton's LRT where the majority of the stations are common between both lines before splitting off into two termini when travelling northbound.

The only thing I'm unsure about is whether they should use a dotted line for either Line 1 or Line 3 between Blair and Trim, since I recall that only certain trains will travel eastbound beyond Blair at certain times (I'm not quite up to speed on how exactly that's going to work, but I remember Pat Scrimgeour explained it during an interview). Either way, that's probably another minor detail.

My biggest hope in terms of what we get out of this rebrand is the end of the mismash of terminology we see in the news media and sometimes even city-released media, when referring to the system. The terms "LRT Confederation Line" and "O-Train Trillium Line" always seem like overkill, not to mention inaccurate since the whole system is considered the "O-Train". I got really irked when CTV reported earlier this year that the entire O-Train would be closed until 2022, when really they only meant Line 2 (they later corrected it). Growing up in Toronto, it was always "Line 1, Line 2, etc." and living in Montreal for a few years it was "Orange Line (Ligne Orange)" and so on. Hopefully we can get to that level of simplicity soon enough.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2020, 11:29 PM
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LRT service rates quietly improve under reduced ridership, system fixes

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Publishing date: Nov 27, 2020 • Last Updated 2 hours ago • 4 minute read




Public transit, like most government services, is probably at its best when no one is talking about it at the dinner table. If it’s working well, there’s nothing to discuss, no reason to complain.

Perhaps that’s why no one’s really getting heartburn over LRT these days.

Or, the buzz has simply died down with no one riding LRT during the pandemic.

But recent updates from OC Transpo suggest the Confederation Line is going through an unprecedented run of stability in its young life as the city’s backbone of the transit network.

Transpo delivers the LRT service but success hinges on the Rideau Transit Group’s ability to put trains on the line and prevent them from breaking down. The low ridership during the pandemic, as much as it’s been a crippling budget hit for Transpo, has reduced the strain on the LRT system as RTG make repairs.

RTG has managed to deploy the required 15 double-car trains during the morning peak period on a fairly regular basis and the problems identified by the city last winter in a scathing notice of contract default are being fixed.

Transpo and RTG delivered about 95 per cent of scheduled service between January 2020 and October 2020, with the monthly low point in January at 88 per cent when power “arcing” problems were reducing the number of trains available for operations.

Ninety-five per cent sounds like a decent result until you hear that Transpo considers a minimum of 97 per cent as an acceptable rate. Anything below that and it’s likely customers have experienced unexpected longer wait times for trains.

However, there were five months that reached 98 per cent: April, May, September and October.

November was on record-setting pace for service delivery about halfway through the month when it was achieving 99 per cent. There was only one time that Transpo dipped below that crucial 97 per cent delivery rate and it was when there was a deer on the tracks around Cyrville Station on Nov. 4.

The second half of November brought setbacks, like a derailed train in the connector tunnel at Belfast yard and a brake problem on a train at uOttawa Station, both on Nov. 18.

Other blips included a brake fault on a train during the afternoon of Nov. 25, a “technical issue” on Nov. 24 that caused delays and a train that had to be moved from Tunney’s Pasture Station on Nov. 23.

Transit officials are now closely monitoring the LRT’s performance in winter weather.

RTG is trying to have all heater upgrades on track switches done by the start of December. The switches guide trains between tracks.

The heater upgrade is the main reason why the full 12.5-kilometre rail line will close Sunday and the eastern stretch of the LRT line closed last Sunday.

Switch heaters between Tunney’s Pasture and Tremblay stations have been upgraded to a more effective electric heater, while the switch heaters between Tremblay and Blair stations are being upgraded to natural gas-powered equipment. The improvements also include an early warning system to alert the control centre if there’s a problem with a switch heater.

The switch heaters are one of seven areas Transpo wanted RTG to address in the fix-it plan that followed the notice of default. During the last update to the transit commission, Transpo operations director Troy Charter said there has been “significant progress” in all of the areas.
  • Software updates for the vehicle brakes and train control systems has had staff monitoring the ride comfort.
  • RTG has made modifications to the overhead catenary system and inspected the wires across the entire line. Changing weather between seasons will require ongoing adjustments.
  • Replacement of power inductors, which allow electrical currents to be filtered to the train, continues with 21 vehicles finished as of Nov. 18. RTG has told the city the work will continue into early next year.
  • Updated software has drastically reduced the number of door problems. RTG is also improving the mechanical equipment in the doors.
  • Better software also seems to be helping mend the vehicle auxiliary power units. Staff are monitoring the units over the long term.
  • Tweaks to the vehicle heating, ventilation and air conditioning systems have staff monitoring the heating effectiveness during cold weather. Doors will continue to open automatically at stations, rather than making passengers press the door button to enter or exit.

An independent assessment of the rectification work is ongoing. Transit general manager John Manconi has told the transit commission that a preliminary review didn’t find major problems.

Meanwhile, the Transportation Safety Board continues to investigate the cause of cracks found on train wheels. All wheels are being replaced and the work will last into 2021. As of Nov. 18, a tenth vehicle was undergoing the wheel swap.

Transpo and RTG have a winter operating plan for different types of weather, based on what they learned from last winter.

This time, staff are gathering and sharing as much intel as possible to have the right number of resources ready. Staff meet each week to look at the weather forecast to prepare for operations.

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Transitway shelters along Albert and Slater are being removed.


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Man some of these downtown streets have ugly sidewalks/pavements. With random concrete pavement, random paver stones and random placement of amenities. At least removing the bus shelters will make it marginally less ugly.
     
     
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Transitway shelters along Albert and Slater are being removed.


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As per OC Transpo, new life at Lincoln Fields temporary bus loop.

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Good morning Michael. We can confirm at least some of the former bus shelters from Albert and Slater streets will continue their lives at Lincoln Fields Station's temporary local bus platform. ^WL

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