ATLANTA | Development Thread VI - Page 703

KevinFromTexas · #**14041** Posted **Nov 13, 2020, 2:21 AM**

https://www.bizjournals.com/austin/n...rgia-tech.html
Austin's Lincoln Ventures proposes 31-story tower for student housing near Georgia Tech
It is the firm's first project in the Peach State

By Dyana Bagby – Reporter, Atlanta Business Chronicle, Atlanta Business Chronicle
9 hours ago

Austin-based Lincoln Ventures is expanding its student housing footprint into Atlanta with a proposed 31-story project near Georgia Tech.

The new tower would be built on less than a half-acre at the corner of Spring Street and Abercrombie Place and include 195 furnished co-living units with 550 beds. Levels 30 and 31 would also include a couple of two-story townhomes. The project at 859 Spring St. would incorporate two ground levels and two amenity levels at the top of the building. Five levels of parking are planned for a total of 110 spaces. Total height is approximately 340 feet.

MdtwnATL · #**14042** Posted **Nov 16, 2020, 2:59 PM**

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The city felt much more cohesive than atlanta,

I honestly feel this way when I visit just about any other major city...

NYbyWAYofGA · #**14043** Posted **Nov 16, 2020, 7:31 PM**

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I honestly feel this way when I visit just about any other major city...

That's sad. Do you see Atlanta correcting these deficiencies in connectively anytime soon?

shivtim · #**14044** Posted **Nov 16, 2020, 7:43 PM**

We've made a huge amount of progress, and have organizations doing amazing work (Midtown Alliance, ABC, PEDS, PATH, Central Atlanta Progress, etc), but we just can't seem to connect everything. We have wonderful urban neighborhoods that exist as little islands. Continued infill is slowly solving this, but it's frustrating when we have backward steps like surface parking in new development on the beltline or 2,000 space parking decks next to MARTA stations.

jayden · #**14045** Posted **Nov 16, 2020, 10:31 PM**

I think it goes back to encouraging a positive mindset about using MARTA. Although the inner city is gaining walkability, the idea of taking public transit outside of going to the airport, concerts, or football games, there isn't much enthusiasm in riding MARTA. Because of this, can you really blame developers for not changing patterns of massive parking decks?

NYbyWAYofGA · #**14046** Posted **Nov 17, 2020, 1:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by jayden

I think it goes back to encouraging a positive mindset about using MARTA. Although the inner city is gaining walkability, the idea of taking public transit outside of going to the airport, concerts, or football games, there isn't much enthusiasm in riding MARTA. Because of this, can you really blame developers for not changing patterns of massive parking decks?

Well, the way things are built encourages more driving. What's the point of building so called TOD when there are like a trillion parking spaces? Then you have the most beautiful, high quality developments (Serenbe, The Battery, Summerhill, Glenwood Park for example) built as far away from a Marta line as possible. Talk about backwards and counter productive.

MdtwnATL · #**14047** Posted **Nov 17, 2020, 6:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by jayden

I think it goes back to encouraging a positive mindset about using MARTA. Although the inner city is gaining walkability, the idea of taking public transit outside of going to the airport, concerts, or football games, there isn't much enthusiasm in riding MARTA. Because of this, can you really blame developers for not changing patterns of massive parking decks?

Atlanta is not designed like NYC or Chicago with incredible density and a perfect grid many miles out from city center where multiple train lines weave throughout the neighborhoods. Once you leave Downtown/Midtown/Buckhead, you're basically in a giant suburb with VERY few people within striking distance of a MARTA stop.

I know some folks drive to their closest stop and take the train the rest of the way in, but I just do not believe that is appealing to most commuters. However, it is nice to see that developers are building around many of the existing MARTA nodes. That will certainly impact ridership down the road.

NYbyWAYofGA · #**14048** Posted **Nov 17, 2020, 7:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by MdtwnATL

Atlanta is not designed like NYC or Chicago with incredible density and a perfect grid many miles out from city center where multiple train lines weave throughout the neighborhoods. Once you leave Downtown/Midtown/Buckhead, you're basically in a giant suburb with VERY few people within striking distance of a MARTA stop.

I know some folks drive to their closest stop and take the train the rest of the way in, but I just do not believe that is appealing to most commuters. However, it is nice to see that developers are building around many of the existing MARTA nodes. That will certainly impact ridership down the road.

Well, New York and Chicago weren't always that way. They had to start somewhere. That's an old excuse. Also, are Asian cities and cities such as London built on a grid?

montydawg · #**14049** Posted **Nov 17, 2020, 7:22 PM**

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Well, New York and Chicago weren't always that way. They had to start somewhere. That's an old excuse. Also, are Asian cities and cities such as London built on a grid?

Older cities are built around walking. Newer cities have ‘super blocks’, generally built for cars, and do not adapt to walking easily. West midtown and buckhead are examples of super block areas. Midtown and downtown are much better

NYbyWAYofGA · #**14050** Posted **Nov 17, 2020, 8:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by montydawg

Older cities are built around walking. Newer cities have ‘super blocks’, generally built for cars, and do not adapt to walking easily. West midtown and buckhead are examples of super block areas. Midtown and downtown are much better

Midtown is relatively new though. Most of those buildings weren't there even thirty years ago.

Tuckerman · #**14051** Posted **Nov 17, 2020, 8:55 PM**

There are some notable exceptions. Berlin and the Berlin/Potsdam, metro is not a grid and very spread out across some 30,000 sq kilometers and yet it has an incredibly complex and well developed rapid transit system of subway, rail and buses that reach throughout the metro area.
American cities simply have not invested in transit systems. We spend enormous sums on highways and roads, very little on transit, and that is the primary explanation for the lack of fast public transportation to large regions. It is almost entirely a socio-political decision on the part of citizens and their representatives to create our car dependent cities.

NYbyWAYofGA · #**14052** Posted **Nov 17, 2020, 9:19 PM**

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There are some notable exceptions. Berlin and the Berlin/Potsdam, metro is not a grid and very spread out across some 30,000 sq kilometers and yet it has an incredibly complex and well developed rapid transit system of subway, rail and buses that reach throughout the metro area.
American cities simply have not invested in transit systems. We spend enormous sums on highways and roads, very little on transit, and that is the primary explanation for the lack of fast public transportation to large regions. It is almost entirely a socio-political decision on the part of citizens and their representatives to create our car dependent cities.

Socio-RACIAL-political...

JMKeynes · #**14053** Posted **Nov 17, 2020, 9:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by NYbyWAYofGA

Well, New York and Chicago weren't always that way. They had to start somewhere. That's an old excuse. Also, are Asian cities and cities such as London built on a grid?

True. In the 1600s, NY started with a European-style layout in lower Manhattan which went everywhere. The grid was established 200 years later in the early 1800s.

Sbgt92 · #**14054** Posted **Nov 18, 2020, 1:59 PM**

Anyone know the status of the Campanile Addition? The building demolition looks complete, yet no new construction has occurred in months. The lay down area in the block south of the project looks like an active site, yet no crews are doing any work. I’m sure the folks working in that building must be confused and frustrated at the lack of progress.

MdtwnATL · #**14055** Posted **Nov 23, 2020, 11:16 PM**

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Anyone know the status of the Campanile Addition? The building demolition looks complete, yet no new construction has occurred in months. The lay down area in the block south of the project looks like an active site, yet no crews are doing any work. I’m sure the folks working in that building must be confused and frustrated at the lack of progress.

"Frustrating" is always associated with anything concerning Dewberry.

bigstick · #**14056** Posted **Nov 24, 2020, 2:27 AM**

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Anyone know the status of the Campanile Addition? The building demolition looks complete, yet no new construction has occurred in months. The lay down area in the block south of the project looks like an active site, yet no crews are doing any work. I’m sure the folks working in that building must be confused and frustrated at the lack of progress.

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"Frustrating" is always associated with anything concerning Dewberry.

I rode by this today and it is astounding how bad it looks...First he takes off the top of the building (Campanile), what, 5 years ago?? Then chops down the beautiful somewhat mature Ginkgo trees on the property, Now, leaves it a shell on the bottom. This guy is like Trump, a complete and utter disgrace to Atlanta commercial property. He should be fined and fined again for this abomination.

shivtim · #**14057** Posted **Nov 25, 2020, 2:11 PM**

Even worse, the ginko trees weren't entirely removed - they were just chopped off at about the 5 foot mark. So the block is now surrounded by dead tree stumps.

bigstick · #**14058** Posted **Nov 25, 2020, 2:40 PM**

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Even worse, the ginko trees weren't entirely removed - they were just chopped off at about the 5 foot mark. So the block is now surrounded by dead tree stumps.

Yes, it just makes me sick...