AUSTIN | Waterline | 1,034 Feet | 73 Floors | T/O

[The ATX]

Note that the HAIF post states the tower height as 1,474'. But that's the approximate above sea level height based on this drawing. But it should be around 1,000'. It needs to be 984' (300 meters) to be rated as a supertall.

[urbancore]

I’ll take it!!!!

Break ground sometime mid-late 2022?

[The ATX]

I changed the title to reflect the change to two towers from four and new names. The site plans for each tower were filed for AULCC in April. The former Waller Park Place site was referred to as 98 Red River in the filing and Block 190 was referred to as 99 Red River.

[The ATX]

Originally Posted by urbancore

I’ll take it!!!!

Break ground sometime mid-late 2022?

For what it's worth, the April AULCC filings for both 98 & 99 Red River have January 2022 as the start dates.

[N90]

If Austin gets a supertall from this then I have no problems at all with this project slashing 2 towers from the original vision.

This is also one building where I’m not gonna put any emphasis on design as long as it’s not straight hideous because supertall status as symbolism is enough of a win for me. It helps that it’s design is okay though, which in this case it is. So not bad at all.

[the Genral]

I'm a huge fan of the podium and hotel component.

[The ATX]

Originally Posted by the Genral

I'm a huge fan of the podium...

Well, that's not something one hears very often.

[The ATX]

Imagine this view with the Travis and 90 Rainey towers immediately to the right.

[KevinFromTexas]

Well, that's good news. I had trouble reading the numbers on the elevation. The top one is pretty easy to read - 1,409 feet. Of course, that's the above sea level height. The number at the bottom is more difficult, but I'm a nerd, so I got out my magnifying glass like Inspector Gadget to read it. It's still a little hard to read, but I think the number is 408 feet 3 inches. So, that gives us a height there of 1,000 feet 9 inches. BUT, the height on the elevation is only to the main roof and there is some height above that. I think the highest point of the crown/mechanical roof appears to be around 50 feet above the main roof. So I'm thinking the height is likely close to 1,050 feet.

[the Genral]

Does that even look like its 1000 feet tall??

[drummer]

So just so I understand it - this is the first of two towers, right? Do we have any info on the second tower? Because obviously one supertall isn't enough.

Also, it's interesting that speedboats will be a common sight on Lady Bird Lake (*cough* Town Lake *cough*) once this thing goes up.

Originally Posted by The ATX

[The ATX]

Originally Posted by drummer

So just so I understand it - this is the first of two towers, right? Do we have any info on the second tower?

The second tower would be Block 190 next to IHOP. The only info we have about it - which isn't much - has been already posted in this thread. But based on the square footage and use, my guess is that it's around 750'-800'. But every tower that hasn't broken ground including this new proposal is not a sure thing. I wouldn't be surprised if we go two years without a groundbreaking for big downtown tower. It's been close to year already.

[KevinFromTexas]

Where is it saying/showing that there would be a 2nd tower? If we're thinking it's the building to its right in the birdseye view rendering, then that's actually Quincy next to it.

EDIT: Nevermind, The ATX clarified it.

[WestAustinite]

This may end up being the tallest building in Texas. Look out Houston!

[East7thStreet]

Notable tallest building in other cities:

Atlanta 1023'

Houston 1002'

Cleveland 947'

Seattle 937'

Dallas 921'

Jersey City 900'

Charlotte 871'

Miami 868'

[We vs us]

I love the podium, TBH -- that it fills most of the lot, and curves along the shape of Waller Creek, is really just cool. it's a building in its own right. But gotta be honest -- the rest of the tower is really jarring. The angles are slightly off, and some of the building edges slope down or up for no real reason. The effect isn't interesting, it's macabre, like in a fun house.

Interestingly, in the view that looks west from I35ish, you can see that there's a bit of an echo of the Independent's disjointed chunks. I wonder if there's a specific point/counterpoint thing the architect's trying to pull off.

[resansom]

Love the location, love the height, love certain design aspects of it - but, I'm sorry, the overall impression is a mess, if not outright fugly. Maybe it'll grow on me, and I would be OK with it even if it's built with zero changes, but I hope there are some major design revisions to come, before construction begins. Maybe it's a good thing that we're in a bit of a slowdown as it may give them a chance to re-think the final design before the first spade of dirt is overturned...

[N90]

When The ATX mentioned that someone on HAIF brought this up, I was trying to contain my excitement thinking someone found an earlier project or a conceptual rendering or something.

Then I saw the post by Paco Jones on HAIF and being familiar with his work I almost fainted because this is real. Very fucking real.

[N90]

I live in Atlanta and we don't get tall buildings here. We get short highrises and midsize highrises at best. We don't get things like Texas Tower (Houston), 6XG (Austin), and this.

Our best towers are the cutesy and pretty short ones. Great for what they are but they lack any kinda height that can get one excited. The only "tall" towers we hear about here are fake projects that don't exist or the ones the city built over a decade or many decades ago.

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...ostcount=14009

But Austin? Austin's different. I like it, I'm moving to Austin in February.

[urbancore]

Originally Posted by N90

I'm moving to Austin in February.

welcome.

check out the Zilker neighborhood. its the best! no bias here!