Great Canadian Skyline Thread II - Page 766

Harrison · #**15301** Posted **Oct 28, 2020, 3:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by TorontoDrew

CIBC Square by Marcanadian, on Flickr

CIBC Square's floor plates look massive, but are they actually compared to other commercial high rises?

Rico Rommheim · #**15302** Posted **Oct 28, 2020, 3:54 PM**

I actually think the 120m limit serves the mountain quite well from this angle.

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I wold like to see 250m towers go up around central station and place bonaventure though.

However I've got a feeling that Montreal's future 250m will be around transit hubs in Brossard and Laval, a la Burnaby and Mississauga.

LeftCoaster · #**15303** Posted **Oct 28, 2020, 6:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by mr.John

from this perspective I count over 6 towers that are taller than mount royal, which illustrates the sheer stupidity of Montreal's height restriction laws

Count yourself lucky. Vancouver's height restrictions are even lower and the mountains they protect reach over 5,000 ft tall...

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Originally Posted by Rico Rommheim

However I've got a feeling that Montreal's future 250m will be around transit hubs in Brossard and Laval, a la Burnaby and Mississauga.

I'd agree, all the tallest towers in Vancouver and Montreal will likely be at TODs in the foreseeable future.

Rico Rommheim · #**15304** Posted **Oct 28, 2020, 7:12 PM**

None of Montreal's major suburbs (Laval, Longueuil, Brossard) have built a single 100m+ tower yet. There are rumblings of maybe towers reaching just over 100m around Panama in Brossard, and eventually Laval will build have one via the Urbania project at Montmorency metro, but otherwise the suburbs seem to be even more skittish than the city, despite a lack of formal height limits or small hill views to protect.

Brossard is the only suburb showing some major ambition, having the REM is definitely helping. So far, Brossard has got two different skylines and is going to build a 3rd separate one around the Panama TOD. Longueuil is inexplicably dormant, and has been for decades. Laval is growing fast but isn't showing any interest in building anything except the odd retirement-home-in-the-park and the mostly mid-rise condo cluster.

I could totally see 60 storey towers going up in Brossard one day though.

WhipperSnapper · #**15305** Posted **Oct 28, 2020, 11:46 PM**

I don't get the point of 60 storeys without the supporting densities. Most are built at fairly low lot coverage. I enjoy looking at tall towers. Never found them very livable.

Wherever you have buyers (a.k.a. growth). They can be easily convinced to buy just about anything. Just look at Vaughan, Ontario. Went from a condo market made up of mid rises in Woodbridge and a sub 20 storey towers every year or two in Thornhill to competing with Mississauga and Burnaby for skyline supremacy.

isaidso · #**15306** Posted **Oct 29, 2020, 1:57 AM**

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Originally Posted by Rico Rommheim

None of Montreal's major suburbs (Laval, Longueuil, Brossard) have built a single 100m+ tower yet. There are rumblings of maybe towers reaching just over 100m around Panama in Brossard, and eventually Laval will build have one via the Urbania project at Montmorency metro, but otherwise the suburbs seem to be even more skittish than the city, despite a lack of formal height limits or small hill views to protect.

Brossard is the only suburb showing some major ambition, having the REM is definitely helping. So far, Brossard has got two different skylines and is going to build a 3rd separate one around the Panama TOD. Longueuil is inexplicably dormant, and has been for decades. Laval is growing fast but isn't showing any interest in building anything except the odd retirement-home-in-the-park and the mostly mid-rise condo cluster.

I could totally see 60 storey towers going up in Brossard one day though.

Canadian metros have unique characteristics but they also follow similar development characteristics. What stage they're at depends on how large they've grown. In this sense, Toronto acts a glimpse into how metros a notch smaller might develop as they get bigger. From a development POV, Montreal in 2020 reminds me a lot of Toronto in 2005. Intensification is occurring, gentrification is gaining steam in many neighbourhoods, and new buildings are getting steadily taller.

Growth rates are lower in Montreal but if 1.5% population growth continues, Montreal will eventually see the need to develop higher density nodes just like Mississauga City Centre and Vaughan Corporate Centre. It bears mentioning that the latter had no tall buildings 10 years ago. Today it has 5 buildings 150m+ U/C and 19 buildings 150m+ Proposed. 1 of them is proposed at 215m; taller than anything that exists in Montreal.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/71-607-x/71-607-x2020003-eng.htm

Brizzy82 · #**15307** Posted **Oct 29, 2020, 2:40 AM**

Winnipeg

source

J.OT13 · #**15308** Posted **Oct 29, 2020, 12:35 PM**

Great shot of Winnipeg. I somehow didn't realize the park land around the Forks was that expansive.

TorontoDrew · #**15309** Posted **Oct 29, 2020, 2:26 PM**

That is a nice shot of the Peg.

Morning fog in Toronto's Bloor-Yorkville area, image urbantoironto by Forum contributor noahthewale

Chadillaccc · #**15310** Posted **Oct 30, 2020, 9:17 AM**

Telus Sky be like....

https://twitter.com/Neil_Zee

J.OT13 · #**15311** Posted **Oct 30, 2020, 3:51 PM**

Ottawa, around 2018.

https://ottawatourism.ca/en/connect-in-ottawa/advantages-mid-sized-destination-meetings

vanman · #**15312** Posted **Oct 30, 2020, 10:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by Martin Mtl

That’s a new TOD around a future REM station in Brossard in the South Shore.

Very cool. I didn't know Montreal had already started embracing suburban towers.

Any other REM stations planning for TOD?

GreaterMontréal · #**15313** Posted **Oct 30, 2020, 11:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by vanman

Very cool. I didn't know Montreal had already started embracing suburban towers.

Any other REM stations planning for TOD?

Yes, the Bois-Francs station. No big towers however.

7,700 new housing units; 15k residents
39,600 m² of office space;
37,700 m² of commercial space;
23,300 m² of surface area for institutional functions;
104,350 m² of parks, public places and green spaces.