Highways in Canada

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by Taeolas

I just wish NS would smarten up about their exit numbering and go klick-based like almost everyone else, instead of straight numbers.

One of the biggest pet peeves I have. There is even an Exit 0 on the 102.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by JHikka

This seems odd to me if the police is sitting on a highway waiting for oncoming cars and first identifies the lead car as speeding, then deciding on the trailing car. Surely their radar would read only the first car.

Yeah, and it seems like "the last car in the pack" would be a pretty easy ticket to fight, based on uncertainty as to which car was clocked. Especially that so many people today have dashcams as well so you can show the placement of the cars and the cop.

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by JHikka

This seems odd to me if the police is sitting on a highway waiting for oncoming cars and first identifies the lead car as speeding, then deciding on the trailing car. Surely their radar would read only the first car.

Originally Posted by Acajack

Yeah, and it seems like "the last car in the pack" would be a pretty easy ticket to fight, based on uncertainty as to which car was clocked. Especially that so many people today have dashcams as well so you can show the placement of the cars and the cop.

That would be true for old fashioned Police Radar but modern Laser Radar has pinpoint accuracy and can easily pick out a single car in a crowd as long as the officer has a line of sight view of the front of the car. The guns have a 2x scope in which they see a small, red dot, indicating exactly what it is measuring the speed of.

They can also use Pacing (drive at the same speed as you and read their speedometer). With pacing, "the last car in the pack" is the easiest one to catch

Originally Posted by JHikka

I don't mind Adaptive Cruise Controls but I find they slow me down too often behind cars further ahead. The ones i've used, at least, have been far too cautious in its decreasing of speeds.

I suspect adaptive cruise control isn't as good with ICEVs as they are with EVs, since you get much better control of your speed with an EV. With an ICEV, the adaptive cruise control probably tries to avoid using the brakes, so it needs to react sooner to a slow vehicle to let you coast down to its speed. With an EV, it can use regenerative breaking to slow down without touching the brakes.

To me the issue is most people seem to race up to the traffic light and then slam on the brakes, rather than just gradually slow down when they see it turn red. Since the adaptive cruise control will do exactly what the car in front of me is doing, I find using the one peddle drive gives a much smoother ride (not to mention is more efficient).

[ZTrade]

What are the odds of connecting K-W to Hamilton via controlled access Highway?

I mentioned something similar to this in the Statistics Canada thread but my point is relevant here too. There is an opportunity for a major Tech, Bio, Health and Advanced Manufacturing corridor between these two metros.

What do you guys think the best route would be? 6-5-8? Or just complete Highway 6 to the 401?

[Dengler Avenue]

Originally Posted by ZTrade

What are the odds of connecting K-W to Hamilton via controlled access Highway?

I mentioned something similar to this in the Statistics Canada thread but my point is relevant here too. There is an opportunity for a major Tech, Bio, Health and Advanced Manufacturing corridor between these two metros.

What do you guys think the best route would be? 6-5-8? Or just complete Highway 6 to the 401?

6 to 401 is the best, but 8 and 52 can be expanded to 4-lane undivided.

[ZTrade]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

6 to 401 is the best, but 8 and 52 can be expanded to 4-lane undivided.

Ok, I see what you mean about 6 being better. Both routes (6-5-8 and just 6) are 64KM long from Downtown Hamilton to Downtown Kitchener.

Also, Highway 5 from Highway 6 to 8-52 round-a-bout should also be upgraded to a 4 lane undivided. Hamilton/Burlington metro will be 1 Million people eventually, there is a major cargo airport that's going to get busier with the new warehouses going up and K-W is growing rapidly itself. Guelph is no slouch either. These two metros are going to be too large to only be connected by single lane highways...

edit: I just realized the 6 route provides another route to Milton too that wouldn't need the 407. Even more people and businesses that would benefit Hamilton.

[manny_santos]

Originally Posted by theman23

There are a ton of roads limited to 80 km/h where the average speed is close to 120 km/h. Would seem absurd to label that as street racing.

What’s absurd in Southwestern Ontario is that in Chatham-Kent, Middlesex, and Huron Counties, many of the county roads are posted at 90 km/h while two-lane provincial highways are posted at 80. It’s most obvious just north of London where Highway 4 is posted at 80, while both Highbury Ave and Hyde Park Road are posted at 90. These three roads all run parallel to each other, and yet Highway 4 is built to the highest standard.

[Dengler Avenue]

Originally Posted by manny_santos

What’s absurd in Southwestern Ontario is that in Chatham-Kent, Middlesex, and Huron Counties, many of the county roads are posted at 90 km/h while two-lane provincial highways are posted at 80. It’s most obvious just north of London where Highway 4 is posted at 80, while both Highbury Ave and Hyde Park Road are posted at 90. These three roads all run parallel to each other, and yet Highway 4 is built to the highest standard.

Then the portion of Highway 4 downloaded to Huron County has a speed limit of 90 kph lol.

[haljackey]

Originally Posted by ZTrade

What are the odds of connecting K-W to Hamilton via controlled access Highway?

I mentioned something similar to this in the Statistics Canada thread but my point is relevant here too. There is an opportunity for a major Tech, Bio, Health and Advanced Manufacturing corridor between these two metros.

What do you guys think the best route would be? 6-5-8? Or just complete Highway 6 to the 401?

I'm not sure if it's still being studied, but a 'Highway 424' would connect Cambridge and Brantford if built. You can continue on the 403 to Hamilton from here.

Not as direct but probably more realistic to build a full freeway here vs Highway 6 or 8.

https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.272609,-80.3030121,12.25z

Old doc
https://www.ontario.ca/page/brantford-cambridge-transportation-corridor

[Spocket]

Originally Posted by haljackey

I'm not sure if it's still being studied, but a 'Highway 424' would connect Cambridge and Brantford if built. You can continue on the 403 to Hamilton from here.

Not as direct but probably more realistic to build a full freeway here vs Highway 6 or 8.

https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.272609,-80.3030121,12.25z

Old doc
https://www.ontario.ca/page/brantford-cambridge-transportation-corridor

Is there really that much traffic between Brantford and the KWC area? I suppose there's plenty between the Hammer and for those not heading to Toronto along the QEW but it just seems like such an odd place to align the freeway.

[Dengler Avenue]

I heard that Highway 24 (Brantford Highway, Brant Road) could get badly congested during rush hours pre-covid. At the very least, it should have undivided 4 lanes until Cambridge town limit then swing east to bypass Cambridge and join Townline Road (Highway 401 Exit 286). In fact, this can ensure that the designation of Highway 8 is contiguous by multiplexing it with 401 and Cambridge Bypass for a bit. As for Cambridge Bypass & Highway 8, either a roundabout or an interchange would do.
Heavy trucks are really ruining Ainslie...

[Innsertnamehere]

I believe when MTO was studying it it was going to be a super 2 highway designed to be upgraded to a freeway in the future.

A better connection is needed between the two cities, but a full freeway between the 401 and 403 is overKill. A super two with regular passing lanes connecting Wayne Gretzky Parkway to the new Cambridge bypass Waterloo Region is building right now is probably more than enough. It would divert a lot of traffic off of the existing 24 and create a more even distribution of traffic likely resulting in neither road being congested.

Highway 6 from Waterdown to the 401 should probably be upgraded to a RIRO like 11 or 35, tying in with the already planned Morriston bypass and highway 5 interchange.

[Corndogger]

Originally Posted by sonysnob

^ That could just be a politician deflecting some heat from his constituents on a previous government too, regardless of what his (and his government's) private opinion is. But that's not something an outsider can ever truly know.

Milo doesn't care about facts. If you start reading near the bottom of the page I linked to and keep reading for awhile you'll find a ton of evidence that the province has not canceled plans to build another freeway down the median of the existing one. This info is coming from the government itself and well after Milo claims they canceled the future project.

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=127346&highlight=outer+ring+road&page=371

[Corndogger]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

Excessive speeding and yet cops don't care? Man, we could only dream of that here in Ontario.
I guess in B.C., even the cops agree that the speed limit's too low?

Calgary's horrible for speed limits being way too low and enforcement too strict. Apparently Edmonton is even worse. I think both cities are one step away from becoming like places in Central America where the police stop vehicles at gunpoint in the middle of intersections and demand payment from you before you can proceed.

[Chadillaccc]

Neither city is even remotely close to that. I literally laughed out loud. Yes the enforcement is strict, but the rest is LOL!

This is akin to the republicans saying if Biden is elected, commandos are gonna be breaking into people's homes to confiscate their guns at gunpoint.

[Airboy]

Enforcement in Edmonton and area is by Photo Radar or Stop light camera. Hell they painted the photo vehicles bright green so you could see them. It is rare that you see and actual police manned speed trap. I saw 3 this summer. 2 were in construction zones.

The only real deterrent is when my wife shows me the cost of registering the vehicles when I don't pay the fines right away.

[Dengler Avenue]

https://www.wellandtribune.ca/ts/news/ca...stion-bramptons-413-boulevard-dream.html
Actually, is there enough space to do something similar to A40 through West Island? This way, we can have both the tolled freeway and the proposed urban boulevard. In fact, we can even have that urban boulevard all the way up to the new 410 so that people using 410 to go on the 10 don't have to pay tolls and that we can demolish the part of 410 between Mayfield Road and Hurontario Street. Then we will just sign the portion of the urban boulevard between Hurontario Street and the new 410 as 10 and download the rest to the Village of Caledon.

[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by Corndogger

Calgary's horrible for speed limits being way too low and enforcement too strict. Apparently Edmonton is even worse. I think both cities are one step away from becoming like places in Central America where the police stop vehicles at gunpoint in the middle of intersections and demand payment from you before you can proceed.

[Innsertnamehere]

The urban boulevard idea for the 413 is monumentally stupid and I have no idea what Brampton is thinking. The report Brampton had made up looked monumentally expensive.

[Dengler Avenue]

Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

The urban boulevard idea for the 413 is monumentally stupid and I have no idea what Brampton is thinking. The report Brampton had made up looked monumentally expensive.

It came out of the blue too. I did wonder what P Brown and friends smoked...