[Burnaby] Concord Metrotown | 230.1m | 65,45,33 fl | U/C

[Klazu]

Thanks for posting! I also wish the tallest tower would be the first phase, but I will be happy to have a 45-floor tower go up here. It will be truly transformational for this corner of Metrotown.

I wonder how nobody has mentioned the 400-meter running track around the podium roof which is a first for Metro Vancouver. I think it is quite pointless, though, as Metrotown has plenty of tracks and side streets to run on and is perfectly safe even after dark.

[Spr0ckets]

Originally Posted by Klazu

Thanks for posting! I also wish the tallest tower would be the first phase, but I will be happy to have a 45-floor tower go up here. It will be truly transformational for this corner of Metrotown.

I wonder how nobody has mentioned the 400-meter running track around the podium roof which is a first for Metro Vancouver. I think it is quite pointless, though, as Metrotown has plenty of tracks and side streets to run on and is perfectly safe even after dark.

I think they're all the same phase (Phase I) and will be constructed together if I had to bet.

It's just that based on schedules and the tower heights themselves, the central one will be completed first and way ahead of the taller one which is 20 floors taller and will take more weeks to complete.

At least that's what a shared podium like that suggests.

Why the shortest one will not be completed first, I don't really know.

If anything, that's the one that's being delayed or put off (based on what scheduling might suggest) - but then again that might also be according to scheduling plan because if they started constructing the tower stems at the same time (assuming the completion of the podium), the shortest tower would be completed way way ahead of the other two and I don't imagine they want to have it completed possibly several weeks or months earlier while the other two still have a ton time left to complete.

Ideally you'd like to have all three completed at roughly the same time space as each other since I imagine they'll be shared amenity facilities on that podium that all three towers might need access to.

I don't believe they'll have any trouble at all selling out the tallest tower (especially as the tallest tower in Metrovan when it completes) so really no urgency in that regard to get it completed early.

[MistyMountain]

The phasing with regard to the middle tower being 'phase 1' may just be the sale timelines, but they might end up being built at the same time.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by MistyMountain

The phasing with regard to the middle tower being 'phase 1' may just be the sale timelines, but they might end up being built at the same time.

Especially with how the shared podium would work.

[Metro-One]

It is interesting that 45 and 65 floors in this development equate to 161m and 220m in height while some 60 floor towers in downtown don’t even break 180m.

Why are these towers so restively tall for their floor count? Some of that must be due to the podium and crown I suppose, that and downtown Vancouver must have some pretty tight ceiling heights...

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

It is interesting that 45 and 65 floors in this development equate to 161m and 220m in height while some 60 floor towers in downtown don’t even break 180m.

Why are these towers so restively tall for their floor count? Some of that must be due to the podium and crown I suppose, that and downtown Vancouver must have some pretty tight ceiling heights...

I was looking at the same thing and assumed the podium was easily 7-9 "floors" and the crown is 7-8 "floors" of height.



https://www.vanpeople.com/c/2507241.html

[owenhujb]

Thank goodness they got rid of those gimmicky swirly designs on the balconies.

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[officedweller]

The page with the egg greenhouse says "Phase One - Sky Park" and lists the 3 towers. For the later towers it says "Future Release", not phase.
So think all 3 are one phase.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

It is interesting that 45 and 65 floors in this development equate to 161m and 220m in height while some 60 floor towers in downtown don’t even break 180m.

Why are these towers so restively tall for their floor count? Some of that must be due to the podium and crown I suppose, that and downtown Vancouver must have some pretty tight ceiling heights...

The magic of creation without Viewcones!

[dleung]

The areas for those floorplans look way off, even accounting for their sneaky double-counting of demising wall thicknesses. The layouts suggest much smaller spaces than the areas suggest. 2C looks like it's about 450sf, 2F looks no bigger than 700sf.

[Spr0ckets]

Originally Posted by dleung

The areas for those floorplans look way off, even accounting for their sneaky double-counting of demising wall thicknesses. The layouts suggest much smaller spaces than the areas suggest. 2C looks like it's about 450sf, 2F looks no bigger than 700sf.

You're correct.

I scaled the images (for 2C at least) assuming a generous 3ft width for the entrance door, and even being as charitable as possible with counting the demising wall as part of the area (which isn't at all how you'd calculate the area) as you're suggesting, I get just under 460 sf. ( I refuse to count the exterior envelope wall as part of "Indoor space". but it would barely add another 15 or so sq. ft.)

They are WILDLY overcounting their areas.

Anyone looking to buy from those plans would be advised to have a scale and a calculator handy (and a tape measure for the showrooms).

[dleung]

It's been standard practice for years to measure unit areas to the outside of exterior envelope and centerlines of demising walls, though i suspect they often include ALL of the demising walls (double counted in the adjacent units ).

Remember back when a standard 600 square foot 1br had a U-kitchen and a separate dining area with plenty of living room space left? lol

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by dleung

It's been standard practice for years to measure unit areas to the outside of exterior envelope and centerlines of demising walls, though i suspect they often include ALL of the demising walls (double counted in the adjacent units ).

Remember back when a standard 600 square foot 1br had a U-kitchen and a separate dining area with plenty of living room space left? lol

Do they use the same measurement scheme on older buildings?

[GMasterAres]

This is pretty awesome. I hope it sparks a push for some tall towers > 600 feet in other areas of Metro like Brentwood, Coquitlam, or Surrey Central. Breaking the 700 foot mark and dethroning Vancouver which I don't see building that high ever honestly, may push other developers to go that route more often in the future.

Can only wish. I've said it in the past that MetroTown is the best positioned "downtown" area from a regional skyline perspective sitting on the high plateau there as others have pointed out on the previous page, so I can't wait to see these go up and continue the trend of moving away from being Vancouver centric as a region.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by jhausner

This is pretty awesome. I hope it sparks a push for some tall towers > 600 feet in other areas of Metro like Brentwood, Coquitlam, or Surrey Central. Breaking the 700 foot mark and dethroning Vancouver which I don't see building that high ever honestly, may push other developers to go that route more often in the future.

Can only wish. I've said it in the past that MetroTown is the best positioned "downtown" area from a regional skyline perspective sitting on the high plateau there as others have pointed out on the previous page, so I can't wait to see these go up and continue the trend of moving away from being Vancouver centric as a region.

Burnaby needs to aggressively upzone the north, east and south parts of Metrotown for it to become a proper downtown. Streets need to be turned into commercial or mixed-use thoroughfares south not just to Imperial, but all the way to Rumble, and to the edges of Central Park and eastwards towards Royal Oak. Otherwise it will always remain a predominantly residential town centre. At least Surrey Central is getting it right although Metrotown always has an edge over it.

Vancouver is trying to catch up but is a little too late.

If Sears development is a huge success, I'm sure Concord will grab more vacant or underitilised lands along Kingsway near Metrotown for other large development ventures. Would be awesome for an underground pedestrian passageway link with shops from Metrotown Station to the library & Kinsgway/Willingdon and in the future, perhaps connecting to a new train line serving the Brentwood/Metrotown corridor.

[BobLoblawsLawBlog]

Originally Posted by Vin

If Sears development is a huge success, I'm sure Concord will grab more vacant or underitilised lands along Kingsway near Metrotown for other large development ventures. Would be awesome for an underground pedestrian passageway link with shops from Metrotown Station to the library & Kinsgway/Willingdon and in the future, perhaps connecting to a new train line serving the Brentwood/Metrotown corridor.

What I like about Metrotown is that it feels like organic growth. It has older buildings on the perimetre to balance it out. I disagree with you that the Downtown area has to be huge, it doesn't. I'd prefer it to be denser and more compact, rather than spread out too much. The first thing to tackle is the centre, which is still an undeveloped mall, that probably won't be complete in its transition to roads and buildings until the 2040s.

[Spr0ckets]

Found an interesting video just posted for this project on the interwebs, for those that might find it interesting.
The marketing for this seems to be really ramping up now.

The presenter dude seriously needs to dial it back just a tad.

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Yeah, I'm gonna need him to dial it back down to around a '6' from the '18' he currently is on right now (out of '10')
I'm kidding.
I get it. He's a Real Estate marketer and this is kind of their default mode.
(...or maybe it's just too early in the week and on a Monday for me for all that 'pep' all at once.)

[SpongeG]

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[MistyMountain]

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