O-Train Line 1/3 [Stage 2 | West Extension | Tunney's to Baseline/Moodie] | U/C - Page 112

J.OT13 · #**2221** Posted **Oct 5, 2020, 1:05 PM**

Some work at Tunney's Pasture.

https://twitter.com/rail613/status/1312810059429228544

Harley613 · #**2222** Posted **Oct 10, 2020, 2:46 AM**

Has there ever been any discussion about covering the trench from Bayview to the Parkway? It was open topped because diesel buses were running on it but all the hard work for a cut and cover tunnel is already done now that electric trains will be running on it. It would make a lovely linear park and would eliminate a hard barrier in several neighbourhoods. It would also help to keep the ice and snow off the tracks in the section that is hardest to clear.

J.OT13 · #**2223** Posted **Oct 10, 2020, 12:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by Harley613

Has there ever been any discussion about covering the trench from Bayview to the Parkway? It was open topped because diesel buses were running on it but all the hard work for a cut and cover tunnel is already done now that electric trains will be running on it. It would make a lovely linear park and would eliminate a hard barrier in several neighbourhoods. It would also help to keep the ice and snow off the tracks in the section that is hardest to clear.

I fully agree with you, but no, there haven't been any discussions. With all of the new towers going up along Parkdale and Scott, covering the trench to add much needed green space seems like an easy win.

ottawa881 · #**2224** Posted **Oct 13, 2020, 1:16 PM**

I fully agree as well, perhaps we could lobby Jeff Leiper and some of the local politicians on a Highline Style park

https://www.thehighline.org/history/

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Originally Posted by Harley613

Has there ever been any discussion about covering the trench from Bayview to the Parkway? It was open topped because diesel buses were running on it but all the hard work for a cut and cover tunnel is already done now that electric trains will be running on it. It would make a lovely linear park and would eliminate a hard barrier in several neighbourhoods. It would also help to keep the ice and snow off the tracks in the section that is hardest to clear.

roger1818 · #**2225** Posted **Oct 13, 2020, 4:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by Harley613

Has there ever been any discussion about covering the trench from Bayview to the Parkway? It was open topped because diesel buses were running on it but all the hard work for a cut and cover tunnel is already done now that electric trains will be running on it. It would make a lovely linear park and would eliminate a hard barrier in several neighbourhoods. It would also help to keep the ice and snow off the tracks in the section that is hardest to clear.

To keep it within the bounds of Stage 2, it could certainly be done west of Tunnies. One issue from a cost perspective is that the transitway trench is quite a bit wider than what is being dug for the O-Train, and covering that wider trench would be considerably more expensive (the longer the cross supports, the stronger they need to be, so the cost does not increase linearly).

East of Tunnies the trench only extends for a few hundred meters until about Stirling Ave (after that it comes to the surface and crosses above Bayview Station Rd. With bridges at Holland, Parkdale, Hinchey, and Carruthers, the benefit for covering the trench east of Tunnies is reduced.

J.OT13 · #**2226** Posted **Oct 13, 2020, 5:33 PM**

I would prioritize covering the trench between Kichi Sibi station and Lanark Avenue, where most of the new towers are u/c or proposed. That's about a kilometer.

I would encourage the City to work with the Feds to cover the trench in front of Tunney's Pasture as it seems like a logical step that could be linked with the broader redevelopment and better connect with the community to the south. This is 850 meters.

If noise continues to be an issue for high-rise residents between Parkdale and Stirling, then we might have to cover that stretch as well. The fact that we already have a few streets going over might make that stretch a bit cheaper to complete. It' also only 300 meters.

Lanark to Northwestern could be the final phase, at 660 meters.

The three stations would have to remain open air to avoid expensive ventilation.

passwordisnt123 · #**2227** Posted **Oct 13, 2020, 8:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by Harley613

Has there ever been any discussion about covering the trench from Bayview to the Parkway? It was open topped because diesel buses were running on it but all the hard work for a cut and cover tunnel is already done now that electric trains will be running on it. It would make a lovely linear park and would eliminate a hard barrier in several neighbourhoods. It would also help to keep the ice and snow off the tracks in the section that is hardest to clear.

There's never been any discussion so far as I know for two reasons: (1) the people in that area are poor and thus don't deserve nice things in Watson's Ottawa; and two: (2) the people in that area don't donate to Watson's re-election campaign.

It's the same reason Westboroites get the full buried treatment yet on the East end, Jasmine Crescent doesn't even get a stop even though it's 3km between Blair station and Montreal station.

OCCheetos · #**2228** Posted **Oct 14, 2020, 12:35 PM**

The first closure of the Transitway for Stage 2 is happening today.

The segment between Lincoln Fields and Iris is being closed. Buses will be detoured via Woodroffe and Carling.

https://www.octranspo.com/en/alerts/#alerts-35467

roger1818 · #**2229** Posted **Oct 14, 2020, 1:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by OCCheetos

The first closure of the Transitway for Stage 2 is happening today.

The segment between Lincoln Fields and Iris is being closed. Buses will be detoured via Woodroffe and Carling.

https://www.octranspo.com/en/alerts/#alerts-35467

Strange they are closing it in the fall. How much work do the expect to get done in the winter? Seems to be a case of maximum inconvenience for minimum gain.

TransitZilla · #**2230** Posted **Oct 14, 2020, 1:35 PM**

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Strange they are closing it in the fall. How much work do the expect to get done in the winter? Seems to be a case of maximum inconvenience for minimum gain.

It appears to just be a single overnight closure.

roger1818 · #**2231** Posted **Oct 14, 2020, 1:36 PM**

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It appears to just be a single overnight closure.

Ahh. That makes more sense then.

Multi-modal · #**2232** Posted **Oct 14, 2020, 1:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by roger1818

Strange they are closing it in the fall. How much work do the expect to get done in the winter? Seems to be a case of maximum inconvenience for minimum gain.

The detour is only happening for a single night (Oct 14th at 10:00 PM to Oct 15th at 5:00 AM). Its probably needed to make some reconfiguration of the Iris/Transitway intersection as construction continues. I'm sure after October 15th the buses will be moved back onto the Transitway.

*Edit - bradnixon beat me to it.

OCCheetos · #**2233** Posted **Oct 14, 2020, 4:07 PM**

Ah, I hadn't noticed it was only a night. Makes more sense now!

J.OT13 · #**2234** Posted **Oct 16, 2020, 8:55 PM**

Images of the Lincoln Fields flyover posted on Watson's Twitter. The aerial is outdated, taken sometime in summer, but the other were probably taken a few days apart this month.

https://twitter.com/JimWatsonOttawa/status/1317188426907721728

J.OT13 · #**2235** Posted **Nov 5, 2020, 1:42 PM**

O-Train Fans posted the Fall 2020 update:

https://www.railfans.ca/forum/topic/231-...ion-updates/?do=findComment&comment=3320

TheMatth69 · #**2236** Posted **Nov 9, 2020, 5:43 AM**

Asking myself what will happen to the structure and overall entirety of Queensway station ? Is it going to become Ottawa's "ghost station" or will it be entirely dismantled (concrete structures included).

J.OT13 · #**2237** Posted **Nov 9, 2020, 3:03 PM**

My money is on full demolition.

Gat-Train · #**2238** Posted **Nov 9, 2020, 7:59 PM**

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My money is on full demolition.

Shame. It's currently a good interchange for the 101/103 and transitway.

J.OT13 · #**2239** Posted **Nov 9, 2020, 8:20 PM**

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Shame. It's currently a good interchange for the 101/103 and transitway.

What areas did those routes serve?

I imagine Lincoln Fields will take over that role.

OCCheetos · #**2240** Posted **Nov 9, 2020, 8:58 PM**

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What areas did those routes serve?

I imagine Lincoln Fields will take over that role.

It was a cross-town route that started at Moodie (approximately) and traveled along the 417, then down Carling eventually making its way adjacent to the 417 to Lees, and now as the 55 it continues to Elmvale.

You're right that Lincoln Fields will take over because the 55 is the future Carling LRT, er.. for the most part that is.