Relevé Ottawa [400 Albert St] | 78/98m | 23/29f | Completed

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by rumple-stilts

Claridge's Icon has been under construction since 2011 ! Even with a 11 month delay due to the worker accident, it is 9 years in construction mode, and still counting!

Actually, construction on Icon started in 2015:

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.3981019,...WKw!2e0!5s20150401T000000!7i13312!8i6656

EDIT: Even then, that still fits within the time-frame of 5-6 years. I would assume construction would start next spring at the earliest. As Rogue pointed out, it could be a phased approach and the completion date could be for the entire project. If the quality and design is maintained, this could also be a much more complicated, detail oriented project than the simple buildings we usually see or the typical Claridge "good design-cheap materials".

[Harley613]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Actually, construction on Icon started in 2015:

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.3981019,...WKw!2e0!5s20150401T000000!7i13312!8i6656

EDIT: Even then, that still fits within the time-frame of 5-6 years. I would assume construction would start next spring at the earliest. As Rogue pointed out, it could be a phased approach and the completion date could be for the entire project. If the quality and design is maintained, this could also be a much more complicated, detail oriented project than the simple buildings we usually see or the typical Claridge "good design-cheap materials".

Yeah Icon was a long haul. The only shovel to occupancy project that felt as long to me was Soba. I'm too lazy to check the thread right now but that one felt like 5-6 years as well.

[RogueNacho]

I recently emailed the City planner assigned to this project to inquire about construction timelines and logistics. Here are his responses:

Good afternoon Andrew,

I've been following the Main + Main proposal for 400 Albert St. with excitement and anticipation for quite some time. I just have a couple questions regarding the project's timeline:

1) I was under the impression the proposal was approved by the planning committee the other week, thus I am curious why the application is undergoing review and comments all over again. Can we expect the final vote by council within the near future (i.e. end of the year)?

The proposed development is subject to Zoning By-law Amendment and Site Plan Control applications. The Rezoning application was recently considered by Planning Committee and approved by Council on September 9. Main and Main recently reactivated the Site Plan application and now staff will work though this application (public consultation) towards approval for site Plan.

2) Have the developers provided a desired start date for site mobilization/excavation/construction?

There has been an expressed interest in starting late 2021.

3) Are the developers planning on constructing all three towers at once, or constructing in phases?

This is to be determined and likely confirmed within the Site Plan approval, but my understanding to date is that the intent is continuously build as one development starting with all the below grade parking etc. and then the respective towers.

4) What is the current timeline for completion of the project and date of occupancy?

Not known at this time.

[alamgirkhan]

New renderings in the UDRP presentation.

http://webcast.ottawa.ca/plan/All_Image%...Formal%20Review%20-%20D07-12-17-0069.PDF

[Innsertnamehere]

Updated height of 116m, so this will keep the title of tallest building in the downtown.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

Updated height of 116m, so this will keep the title of tallest building in the downtown.

Darn. With the lower elevation, it will look as tall, if not a bit shorter than PdV C. Still an amazing project.

[J.OT13]

Concept for the park:

file:///C:/Users/jgleeson/Downloads/2020-08-26-19-166-Concept-Presentation-ENGLISH_FINAL-s.pdf

And opportunity to provide feedback:

https://engage.ottawa.ca/1new-urban-park-at-albert-and-lyon-street

[Glenlivet Ave]

It's projects like this that make me feel like Ottawa is growing up as a City and get me excited about being downtown.

[kevinbottawa]

Originally Posted by Glenlivet Ave

It's projects like this that make me feel like Ottawa is growing up as a City and get me excited about being downtown.

Same. After seeing the latest renderings, I might be a little bit more excited about this one than the Trinity Centre (and it took a Toronto developer to propose this).

[Harley613]

Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

Updated height of 116m, so this will keep the title of tallest building in the downtown.

The pdf shows 118 metres as the height of the tallest tower, where did you get 116m from?

[rocketphish]

Originally Posted by Harley613

The pdf shows 118 metres as the height of the tallest tower, where did you get 116m from?

While the Site Plan shows a Max Height of 118m, I just verified the 116m height, as well as those of the other towers, from the latest elevations.

188.626m (Top of tower C) - 72.4m (Ground floor of tower C) = 116.226m

[rocketphish]

Originally Posted by alamgirkhan

New renderings in the UDRP presentation.

http://webcast.ottawa.ca/plan/All_Image%...Formal%20Review%20-%20D07-12-17-0069.PDF

[FutureWickedCity]

I am so thrilled about everything about this project! The architecture, the height, the ease of movement through the site, the proximity to Lyon Station. I feel like this will single-handedly elevate the business district from its current state of mediocrity.

[J.OT13]

Just one small thing: I thought that during the last Planning Committee meeting, M+M indicated that the mid-block connection would be pedestrian only after having revised their plan.

[AuxTown]

This project looks great. Giving Trinity Bayview a run for their money! Now the only question is whether there is enough demand for both projects to go ahead in the next 1-2 years???

[passwordisnt123]

Originally Posted by AuxTown

This project looks great. Giving Trinity Bayview a run for their money! Now the only question is whether there is enough demand for both projects to go ahead in the next 1-2 years???

Housing prices in Ottawa are spiking and the available housing inventory has collapsed from 14+ months of supply to less than 1 month of available inventory. Both the historic price increase and housing supply collapse started at the same time (roughly January/February 2017). In less than than 4 years, the entire housing market in Ottawa has been upended.

Even if all of Zibi and 400 Albert and Trinity and every other John Ruddy proposal and all of the developments currently under construction on Rideau St. and all of the East Lebreton Flats and Soho Italia all got built at the same time and came online in the same calendar year, we still wouldn't soak up all the pent up demand to return us to pre-January 2017 housing inventory levels.

I don't get why people are still buying this narrative that we might need to slow the roll of these projects or else we'll have too much housing in the region. Build. Build. Build.

[Harley613]

The roof height of the tallest of these towers is 189 metres ASL
Trinity Station's tallest tower is 286 metres ASL

So the roof height is 97 metres difference even though the AGL height is 118 metres difference. The escarpment makes 400 Albert 21 metres (69 feet) more prominent. That is the equivalent of around 7 stories.

Runaround way of saying that this development will have the prominence of around 42 stories compared to the 65 stories of Trinity Station when viewed in the same frame from Ottawa River level.

[J.OT13]

Partnerships keep Westdale’s development pipeline thriving

Steve McLean, RENX
April 20, 2021

Partners have been a primary ingredient in Westdale Properties’ long-term success and that’s continuing with several new and ongoing development projects across the Greater Toronto Area, Canada and in parts of the United States.

Partners spread the risk associated with developments and have enabled Westdale to become involved in real estate opportunities it wouldn’t otherwise have been able to take on.

“Individually we’re one drop, and together we’re an ocean,” Westdale chief operating officer Mitchell Cohen told RENX. “That’s why we forge these really good partnerships that continue. We have multiple partners and we do more deals and more deals with our stable of partners.”

Toronto-based Westdale employs more than 1,500 and has owned, managed and developed real estate across North America for almost 70 years. Its Canadian portfolio includes close to 7,000 residential units and more than 2.5 million square feet of retail, commercial and industrial spaces.

Those numbers are growing through its development partnerships.

-- SNIP Toronto projects I wish were being built here --

main + main in Ottawa

With Toronto-based main + main, Westdale is also involved in three Ottawa-area multifamily projects.

“We’re glad to remain in the Ottawa market,” said Cohen. “We’ve been there for a long time in the commercial and retail space, but this is our first in the residential space.”

Albert + Lyon at 400 Albert St. is an IBI Group-designed project comprised of 18-, 28- and 33-storey towers and a mixed-use podium with 600,000 square feet of retail space. The site is across the street from a light rail transit station.

It’s hoped that municipal approvals can be finalized and that construction can start in the next six months.

Cohen said one building will be a condominium, one will be a hotel and he’s unsure if the third will be a condo or purpose-built rental apartment.

“Our core business is multifamily rental, but we like to have flexibility. And with partners, we always have a lot of flexibility.”

Westdale and main + main will also submit plans for municipal approval for two other projects: a condo overlooking the Rideau Canal; and two residential towers in Kanata.

-- SNIP potential Ottawa project posted on General Rumor Thread --

-- SNIP other Canadian developments --

https://renx.ca/partners-keep-westdale-development-pipeline-thriving/

[J.OT13]

A few notes:

• The project DOES include 600,000 sqft of retail. It's closer to 20,000 sqft (I don't have the exact figures);
• The project will have one condo and one hotel (glad to see after Claridge canceled their hotel component of Moon);
• Third tower might be condos or rentals;
• Construction to start in the next 6 months.

[Harley613]

I really hope that 33 stories is a typo or is based on the previous proposal. The last thing I want is for this quality piece of architecture to be just another stump lost in stumpland. 35 is just enough to stick out and make a little variation in our CBD skyline.