Great Canadian Skyline Thread II

[lio45]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

still waiting for an apology for the undeserved 'idiot' label festooned upon me for no reason.

Can-do it?

All three of us should get apologies. There's zero justification for calling me an idiot for pointing out a strikingly visible and noteworthy characteristic of a skyline pic that got posted in here. It's the purpose of the thread.

[Chadillaccc]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Regarding the bullying, I won't engage in it nor will I even be an apologist for it.

But that said, while I am not an expert and I don't know what stage our friend Chad is at when it comes to getting over things, I do think when it comes to your demons, it's not always a bad thing to be "exposed" to the source from time to time, as opposed to always being sheltered from them.

For example, a recovered alcoholic needs to be able to be around people who are drinking without falling back into the pattern. If you can't be around people drinking without getting drunk yourself, then you haven't really recovered.

Anyway, just my two cents.

If you're strong enough to dish it out, you're strong enough to take it.

Therein lies the problem, I don't wish it out, I responded to and correct their uninformed, inflammatory, bullshit assertions. I will go on record that in the last, I dunno... 3 or so years, I haven't once been the instigator. It's not nearly as two-way of a street as you seem to think it is. Anyways, can we call it a day on this one? I've had enough air-time for one day, and their bilge has had enough to last eons.



Annnnd yayyy another skyline.


https://www.reddit.com/r/Calgary/comments/izjmxd/sunrise_in_calgary_on_friday_morning/

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by PortaPetee

It really is a cool shot. i assume the table top skyline has to do with not exceeding the height of the parliament buildings or something? We have something similar in Halifax with the ramparts of the Citadel.

It's a little more complicated than that. The NCC has established protected view planes that ensure the dominance of Parliament Hill in the skyline. A few buildings were built over those view planes in the 70s, 80s and 90s, but they've become more strict over the last 25 years.

https://ncc-website-2.s3.amazonaws.com/d...tion.pdf?mtime=20180807151923&focal=none

Originally Posted by PortaPetee

I noticed in some aerial shots that Ottawa is developing quite a bit of a "urban canyon" downtown that I don't recall being so dense in the early aughts.



Source: https://thevoice.ottawachamber.ca/2014/11/25/the-future-for-ottawa-businesses-is-bright/

The image is quite outdated. Based on the progress of the Jim Flaherty Building at 90 Elgin (two cranes across the street from the NAC, it looks to be summer of 2012, as opposed to 2014 as the image web address suggests). Along with this substantial office building, standing at 17 floors and 646,000 square feet, within the image frame, the following were also completed over the last 8 years:

• 22 floor Alt Hotel/The Slater condo building across the street (left) of the BMO Building near Slater and Bank;
• the 17 floor Re Residence near Queen and Metcalfe.

Across the canal:

• 15 floor Andaz Hotel replaced the former Union du Canada Building in the Market;
• the 27 floor Claridge Plaza III and IV towers;
• 22 floor Le Germain Hotel/ArtHaus above the expanded Ottawa Art Gallery, across Nicholas from the Rideau Centre.

U/C right now are:

• two 29 floor student residences on Rideau abutting Claridge Plaza III and IV;
• two 27 floor Claridge Moon towers in the big parking lot, bottom of the image, across the Delta Hotel.

Approved are the spectacular Main+Main towers of 35, 29 and 18 floors at 400 Albert, in the entire block (minus the two brick walk-ups) across from Claridge Moon.

I would love to see an updated shot from this angle, and even more so in 5 years. With what has been built, what's currently u/c and what is proposed, their is little space left to build within this frame. Many more towers have gone up and are going up in Centretown, out of frame to the right, but most new development is going along the Trillium and Confederation Lines west of downtown, and of course Zibi.

[lio45]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Therein lies the problem, I don't wish it out, I responded to and correct their uninformed, inflammatory, bullshit assertions. It's not nearly as two-way of a street as you seem to think it is.

And that's exactly the problem. Rousseau's parody ("daring to point out there are lots of surface parking near Portage and Main is an intolerable, inflammatory, bullshit assertion!") was spot on, there's just no way to have a dialogue with your attitude. And that's not our fault.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by lio45

Lots of surface parkings though. Look at the bottom right of that pic! That's right outside the center of the downtown.

(Am I allowed to point this out? I'm not from Winnipeg.)

I'm going to wade in here if it isn't too late to speak to this... yeah, there's no question that the surface lots in that area shown to the east of Portage and Main are terrible.

That area used to border the CN Winnipeg Yards which were removed in the 1980s to make way for The Forks. It used to be filled with old warehouses that were used as sewing factories, cheap light industrial space and such, as well as things like garages and other marginal uses. That stuff died off in the 80s and 90s and a lot of the land was cleared, but so far there just hasn't been enough growth downtown to lead to the redevelopment of the land there.

I don't know when it will happen, but it would be great to see some development in that area because that land is basically the hub in the middle of Portage & Main, The Forks and the East Exchange District.

Lastly, I will say that there are more buildings just outside the frame to the right... the crop is probably the least flattering angle possible!

[PortaPetee]

[QUOTE=J.OT13;9054243]It's a little more complicated than that. The NCC has established protected view planes that ensure the dominance of Parliament Hill in the skyline. [\QUOTE]

Same. In Hali it's about two things. Can you see it from inside the fort? Then no. And then, view planes - what views are protected from the top of the hill?
Not so simple, but I was simplifying.

[PortaPetee]

Originally Posted by lio45

And that's exactly the problem. Rousseau's parody ("daring to point out there are lots of surface parking near Portage and Main is an intolerable, inflammatory, bullshit assertion!") was spot on, there's just no way to have a dialogue with your attitude. And that's not our fault.

Bullshit. His "parody" as you call it, was targeted, malicious, and completely unnecessary. It wasn't relevant to the conversation, it wasn't humorous, it wasn't even clever. It was only meant to mock and provoke.
Again I have only been here 24 hours but I can already see who the real assholes are. Grow up.

[Brizzy82]

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[lio45]

Originally Posted by PortaPetee

Bullshit. His "parody" as you call it, was targeted, malicious, and completely unnecessary. It wasn't relevant to the conversation, it wasn't humorous, it wasn't even clever.

It still hit the nail on the head as to what the problem is - any reasonable comment that gets interpreted as a slight towards Calgary will generate this sort of crazy reaction.

Contrast that with esquire's post about surface parking lots, above.

A "Winnipeg Chad" would insist that it's inflammatory to dare observe that there are lots of surface parking there, that only a troll would point that out, and that by explaining how come there's so much surface parking there (borders CN Yards, was lowrise industrial built form with little value), he has "corrected" the person who observed that there was all that surface parking there and is now entitled to call that person "wrong".

Instead, it's possible to have a civil conversation. Proof above.

I've pointed out (and/or agreed with others regarding) flaws of Halifax, Vancouver, Winnipeg, Montreal (and maybe even Ottawa, not sure; if I didn't say it at least I thought it!) in the past week or so in this thread. All the discussion that ensued stayed civil. Which is exactly what one expects on a discussion forum full of adults. I see no reason why we couldn't expect the same basic ability to discuss from Calgarians.




(Also, consider that Chad had previously just called Rousseau an idiot, completely gratuitously. "If you dish it out, you should be able to take it" applies here.)

[zoomer]

Beautiful Winnipeg set with some top notch photography there, also great lighting and city colours. Some of the pics have a cinematic retro future vibe, like that last one with the train snaking into the city and those wild looking tall and narrow cars.

[lio45]

Originally Posted by esquire

I don't know when it will happen, but it would be great to see some development in that area because that land is basically the hub in the middle of Portage & Main, The Forks and the East Exchange District.

Wonder what kind of owners own those lots, and whether they're owned by the same people/entities who own office towers nearby or not (if it's the case, then I don't expect them to be for sale, nor cheap if they ever are, and they're also less likely to be developed). Did any of these parking lots change owners recently? Are they selling for a lot (by Winnipeg standards)?

[Nouvellecosse]

Originally Posted by PortaPetee

Bullshit. His "parody" as you call it, was targeted, malicious, and completely unnecessary. It wasn't relevant to the conversation, it wasn't humorous, it wasn't even clever. It was only meant to mock and provoke.
Again I have only been here 24 hours but I can already see who the real assholes are. Grow up.

Well I've been here for 15 years, and while i respect your right to an opinion, I have to disagree. The idea that chad is being bullied to me is ridiculous. These are all grown-ass, adults who are taking part in mutual, consensual rhetorical activities. If any of them would prefer not to take part they're free to stop at any time. chad even had some of them on ignore list for awhile so is clearly capable of exercising this option is he so chooses. But he actively chooses not to, and instead to aggressively respond to all provocations - perceived or otherwise - with at times rather colourful language. He's declared himself as a new and improved "glow up" self who can handle the forum's so called challenges so I see no reason not to believe him.

[Chadillaccc]

I agree with almost all of the Nouvelle, the only point of contention I have is that they all taunted me even when I still had them on my ignore list, they literally have not stopped for 10 years. Grown ass men acting like fools, and now the whole forum finally knows. Anyways, you're almost totally right there, that's why the ignore list has been restored for the three of them, for the sake of this forum. PortaPetee was unquestionably correct in his assertion though, if you don't know that reality about Rousseau's infantile bullshit after 15 years, you're not looking close enough.

Back to my last point, hasn't this bullshit had enough air-time for today?

[O-tacular]

Originally Posted by rousseau

Don't rain on my pleasant memories. I've worked hard on my mental health recovery, and won't suffer idiot douchebag trolls like you gladly. Stop tormenting me.





Heh

Wow. Did you choreograph that with lio?

[logan5]

Originally Posted by lio45

All three of us should get apologies. There's zero justification for calling me an idiot for pointing out a strikingly visible and noteworthy characteristic of a skyline pic that got posted in here. It's the purpose of the thread.

Here’s the difference - you are indulging yourself by exploiting another persons weaknesses.

[Maldive]

Oldies but goodies interruption.
intervention

Katrin Shumakov

“Tree of light”

Katrin Shumakov

[Proof Sheet]

Originally Posted by O-tacular

Forgive the crudeness of this analogy but I think it’s an apt one. Calgary is like a hot blonde with breast implants. She turns a lot of heads but lacks substance up close. Montreal is like a beautiful but classy brunette. Doesn’t turn as many heads from far away but up close she’s damn near perfect.

So Calgary is Ginger and Montreal is Mary Anne or for a slightly more recent analogy, Calgary is Jennifer Marlowe and Montreal is Bailey Quarters.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Therein lies the problem, I don't wish it out, I responded to and correct their uninformed, inflammatory, bullshit assertions. I will go on record that in the last, I dunno... 3 or so years, I haven't once been the instigator. It's not nearly as two-way of a street as you seem to think it is. Anyways, can we call it a day on this one? I've had enough air-time for one day, and their bilge has had enough to last eons.

My point was way more about your "strength" than it was about the relative craptitude of what you and others are saying. I guess it didn't come across that way.

[Proof Sheet]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

East of the Rideau, there's a good mix of "shacks" and mid-century brick bungalows. Those types of houses are going way over asking these days, and many being replaced by infill condos and apartments.

https://goo.gl/maps/bho9ULNYtc7azqnW7 Not sure how long this 'shack' will be around....it has R5 zoning

[Proof Sheet]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

However, I'd gladly take that cunts money and he'd still get a fabulous tour.

Charming choice of words....your vocabulary knows no bounds. You may want to take a step back, look at what you post before you hit send. Remember that it is very easy for future employers, colleagues etc to easily find your online profile and comments like the above don't help

And we all wonder why the gender mix is so heavily skewed male on this forum.

I've been reading the last 10 or so pages on this thread this morning and I think some of the keyboard warriors need to take a deep breath.