Great Canadian Skyline Thread II - Page 730

lio45 · #**14581** Posted **Sep 24, 2020, 4:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

That's because no one was trolling, like you were for two and a half straight weeks before. Genuine inquiry and wanton ignorance/arrogance are very different things. You're not a victim, —

You're the troll here. Noticing Calgary's boomtown characteristics and commenting on them (the fascinating and striking contrast between an office tower that's taller than anything in Montreal, combined with built form of detached wooden shacks a mere few blocks away) is not trolling at all. This forum (dedicated to urban affairs) is meant for such discussion.

Neither Biff nor I were trolling with our (very similar) comments. The difference, if we must point it out, is that the Montrealers who responded to Biff are normal non-crazy people, therefore the discussion remained civil.

O-tacular · #**14582** Posted **Sep 24, 2020, 4:13 PM**

Photographic evidence of Montreal’s urban inferiority:

https://clockzillakingoflaval.tumblr.com/post/162289276881/the-happiest-place-on-earth

MonctonRad · #**14583** Posted **Sep 24, 2020, 4:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by O-tacular

False! I am 100% serious. Fact: Montreal is nothing more than a handful of tall luxury condos surrounded by a sea of slums with monstrous Residence Soleil sentinels at the periphery. I can provide streeviews as proof!

Yikes!

O-tacular · #**14584** Posted **Sep 24, 2020, 4:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Yikes!

https://images.app.goo.gl/fHNy8F1BmNtU3yzZA

lio45 · #**14585** Posted **Sep 24, 2020, 4:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by O-tacular

Photographic evidence of Montreal’s urban inferiority:

https://clockzillakingoflaval.tumblr.com/post/162289276881/the-happiest-place-on-earth

That's not even in Montreal. (Most urban Montrealers likely find Laval to be horrible sprawl and wouldn't live there.) The equivalent to what you did would be me supplying you with a wooden shack in Okotoks.

By contrast, my (now famous) wooden shack was in inner city Calgary. Makes all the difference (and I can't believe I have to explain this). A wooden shack in rural Quebec (or upstate NY) isn't anything special, while the same detached wooden shack in Midtown Manhattan (or downtown Mtl) would be unusual/exotic/noteworthy. If you refuse to understand this, you're truly being dumb on purpose.

Chadillaccc · #**14586** Posted **Sep 24, 2020, 4:23 PM**

You're precious.

zoomer · #**14587** Posted **Sep 24, 2020, 4:38 PM**

Serious question: Who owns/runs SSP since Mike K left? Are there active moderators for this section? If so, why is the Montreal vs. Calgary Shack Attack dominating this thread for weeks on end? It's bizarre and unnecessary - I imagine the old man from the Simpsons wearing a Montreal Expos uniform, shaking his fist at the cloud and yelling "Why isn't your 130 year old city exactly the same as my 400 year old city!?"

There is this thing called private messages.

And this is the last time I shall speak of the Shack Attacks.

MolsonExport · #**14588** Posted **Sep 24, 2020, 4:50 PM**

I created a thread for shack attacks, and it attracted some fun posts for awhile, but petered out. Outshacked, it would seem.

I think Phil McAvity (Victoria forumer) is the admin for SSP, since Dylan (creator of SSP) stepped down. Things ain't what they used to be. There has been a huge exodus of progressives from SSP. While they are still in the majority (not surprising given the remit of SSP), there has been an influx of trite-wingnuts.

someone123 · #**14589** Posted **Sep 24, 2020, 5:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by MolsonExport

I think Phil McAvity (Victoria forumer) is the admin for SSP, since Dylan (creator of SSP) stepped down. Things ain't what they used to be. There has been a huge exodus of progressives from SSP. While they are still in the majority (not surprising given the remit of SSP), there has been an influx of trite-wingnuts.

There's a lot of moderation that's easy to miss because it's completely over the top stuff that just gets deleted (the clearest example being ads). Then there's the mushy grey area which is left alone most of the time.

I have noticed that SSP has shifted more and more toward political discussion over the years. Then again most of it's in dedicated threads so I am not sure how much it hurts, as long as it stays out of threads like this one. I'd imagine that mods in general would be on board with shifting moderation standards a bit in response to overall community desires. Right now moderation is pretty hands off in terms of guiding discussion topics (which is I think ideal unless there is a specific need to intervene to keep the whole thing from cratering due to bad actors). If you have a request you can PM a mod.

Chadillaccc · #**14590** Posted **Sep 24, 2020, 5:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by zoomer

Serious question: Who owns/runs SSP since Mike K left? Are there active moderators for this section? If so, why is the Montreal vs. Calgary Shack Attack dominating this thread for weeks on end? It's bizarre and unnecessary - I imagine the old man from the Simpsons wearing a Montreal Expos uniform, shaking his fist at the cloud and yelling "Why isn't your 130 year old city exactly the same as my 400 year old city!?"

Been wondering this for years. It used to be mods would only delete certain voices and leave equally or more offensive/moronic voices like MX, Rousseau and Lio in tact, now they just don't give a —, that's why I started retaliating at these idiots about a year ago. The mods on here, at their absolute best, were never "moderate"... Harls, Leftcoaster, and the like.

O-tacular · #**14591** Posted **Sep 24, 2020, 5:06 PM**

It appears my attempts at satire were taken seriously. I thought the tip off would be the obviously photoshopped pastiche from Laval.

I thought my sarcastic hyperbole about Montreal being a slum would be obvious. For the record Montreal is Canada’s most urban city. Hands down. No other city has it’s density or character. Calgary is a boomtown. It boasts an impressive skyline with much room for growth in the inner city. There. Argument settled.

Chadillaccc · #**14592** Posted **Sep 24, 2020, 5:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by O-tacular

It appears my attempts at satire were taken seriously. I thought the tip off would be the obviously photoshopped pastiche from Laval.

I thought my sarcastic hyperbole about Montreal being a slum would be obvious. For the record Montreal is Canada’s most urban city. Hands down. No other city has it’s density or character. Calgary is a boomtown. It boasts an impressive skyline with much room for growth in the inner city. There. Argument settled.

Wha-wha-wha-whaaaaat?! But, but... when you dig yourself into a hole on SSP you have Lio the — out of yourself, double down on your — uneducated assertion, and never let it go even a month, 3 years, or 9 years later! Self awareness is not allowed!

Pavlov · #**14593** Posted **Sep 24, 2020, 5:16 PM**

I'm sorry. I honestly didn't mean to re-ignite the great shack debate (although had I thought for even a moment before posting I would have known that it was inevitable). I meant my post to just be a bit of tongue-in-cheek but really it probably turned out to just be trolling on my part. Bad Pavlov.

BillM · #**14594** Posted **Sep 24, 2020, 5:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by Biff

My comment was in no way any kind of criticism or negative. Having not been to Montreal and seeing that particular picture it just seemed like a cool corner of very stark contrasts - low rise surrounded by skyscrapers. It was just an interesting picture to me. It was the 90 degree angle aspect that caught my eye.

I believe that in the vertex of that angle, there are 2 towers presently under construction.

TorontoDrew · #**14595** Posted **Sep 24, 2020, 5:19 PM**

Toronto Skyline. by Gillian Floyd, on Flickr

O-tacular · #**14596** Posted **Sep 24, 2020, 5:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by Pavlov

I'm sorry. I honestly didn't mean to re-ignite the great shack debate (although had I thought for even a moment before posting I would have known that it was inevitable). I meant my post to just be a bit of tongue-in-cheek but really it probably turned out to just be trolling on my part. Bad Pavlov.

It had to be said.

O-tacular · #**14597** Posted **Sep 24, 2020, 5:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by TorontoDrew

Toronto Skyline. by Gillian Floyd, on Flickr

Canada’s Chicago.

O-tacular · #**14598** Posted **Sep 24, 2020, 5:24 PM**

Forgive the crudeness of this analogy but I think it’s an apt one. Calgary is like a hot blonde with breast implants. She turns a lot of heads but lacks substance up close. Montreal is like a beautiful but classy brunette. Doesn’t turn as many heads from far away but up close she’s damn near perfect.

MolsonExport · #**14599** Posted **Sep 24, 2020, 5:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Been wondering this for years. It used to be mods would only delete certain voices and leave equally or more offensive/moronic voices like MX, Rousseau and Lio in tact, now they just don't give a —, that's why I started retaliating at these idiots about a year ago. The mods on here, at their absolute best, were never "moderate"... Harls, Leftcoaster, and the like.

will you ever let things go? I am really tired of you constantly bringing me up when you get into a — match with another forumer.

I have made many contributions to SSP over the years, and I deeply resent your use of the term idiot, which could be grounds for suspension.

Chadillaccc · #**14600** Posted **Sep 24, 2020, 5:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by O-tacular

Forgive the crudeness of this analogy but I think it’s an apt one. Calgary is like a hot blonde with breast implants. She turns a lot of heads but lacks substance up close. Montreal is like a beautiful but classy brunette. Doesn’t turn as many heads from far away but up close she’s damn near perfect.

I think the analogy used to be Scarlet Johansson and Elizabeth Taylor. Young Beauty vs. Classic Substance. But now that Montreal is being infected with the blue glass condo craze as badly or worse than we have, don't think that holds up anymore.