Winnipeg Construction X - Page 161

Biff · #**3201** Posted **Sep 19, 2020, 10:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by peg

They sure do, they are in zone 7ish and we are just about zone 4 for hardiness. Lots more options for them to choose from.

The other issue is not so much the hardiness but the trees ability-to withstand the salt and chemicals laid down on the streets in winter. I know the spray during melt times essentially kills all the evergreen trees, hence why we have none as Boulevard trees. Vancouver is full of evergreens and very lush looking because they don’t endure the same corrosive condition.

peg · #**3202** Posted **Sep 20, 2020, 3:50 AM**

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Originally Posted by Biff

The other issue is not so much the hardiness but the trees ability-to withstand the salt and chemicals laid down on the streets in winter. I know the spray during melt times essentially kills all the evergreen trees, hence why we have none as Boulevard trees. Vancouver is full of evergreens and very lush looking because they don’t endure the same corrosive condition.

Very true, most of our arterial routes are terrible for salt sprays. Maybe the more longterm soloution for out city is better street design to accomodate more vareities of trees.

cllew · #**3203** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 1:48 AM**

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Originally Posted by buzzg

The developers and area residents should put some pressure on the city now to put street lights on that block. It has a sidewalk and trees on one side so streetscape wise it's no the worst, but there's no lighting on it which is not great, especially in that area. There's already above ground hydro poles/lines on the east side, so I imagine they could probably add lights to the poles for fairly easily and economically.

Current estimated price for street lighting as a local improvement is $40 per frontage foot (cash) or $14.41 per frontage foot over 3 years. Fees are subject to review Jan 1 2021.

Wpg_Guy · #**3204** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 5:06 AM**

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Originally Posted by peg

Very true, most of our arterial routes are terrible for salt sprays. Maybe the more longterm soloution for out city is better street design to accomodate more vareities of trees.

Or find a different solution than salt.

Authentic_City · #**3205** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 12:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by Wpg_Guy

Or find a different solution than salt.

They have been testing out some sort of beet brine de icing solution.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4641392/b...roughout-city/

Not sure if the tests were positive or if beet brine is still used in Wpg.

Road salt is terrible for trees, especially when applied on high speed corridors. I read a study that suggested lowering speeds can also help minimize the salt spray damage on trees, but that’s not a likely solution because most folks like to drive fast.

EndoftheBeginning · #**3206** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 1:35 PM**

Drove by Taylor Residences (in front of Walmart on Taylor) - it's well underway, with foundation (it's deep, maybe underground parking too) fully dug and piles going in.

Biff · #**3207** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 1:44 PM**

Piling is also in on the site of the former Scott block on Princess. I am very interested to see the design in what really was an unprecedented short time.

Wpg_Guy · #**3208** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 2:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by Biff

Piling is also in on the site of the former Scott block on Princess. I am very interested to see the design in what really was an unprecedented short time.

Maybe it was intentional after all 😏😏,They could have had these plans in their back pocket this whole time.

bomberjet · #**3209** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 2:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by cllew

Current estimated price for street lighting as a local improvement is $40 per frontage foot (cash) or $14.41 per frontage foot over 3 years. Fees are subject to review Jan 1 2021.

On street lighting. Our street lights have been out or not turned on I guess, many times this summer. I haven't noticed exact durations. But seem like it's all the time.

I remember this came up during the budget. Keeping street lights turned off to save money. Anyone else notice this?

It's very dark at night, which is kind of nice actually.

drew · #**3210** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 2:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by Wpg_Guy

Maybe it was intentional after all 😏😏,They could have had these plans in their back pocket this whole time.

Nope - just making the best of a bad situation.

drew · #**3211** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 2:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by Biff

Piling is also in on the site of the former Scott block on Princess. I am very interested to see the design in what really was an unprecedented short time.

6 storey, steel frame with mostly hollowcore floors.

Front has brick finish. Sides and back are insulated metal paneling.

Winnipegger · #**3212** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 2:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

On street lighting. Our street lights have been out or not turned on I guess, many times this summer. I haven't noticed exact durations. But seem like it's all the time.

I remember this came up during the budget. Keeping street lights turned off to save money. Anyone else notice this?

Yep, turning off a portion of street lights was definitely a budget item that was discussed. So while council is patting themselves on the back for balancing the budget for 4 years (prior to COVID), the "dark" reality is that this required shutting off street lights, turning off retention pond pumps, neglecting our beautiful urban canopy, significantly cutting the amount of tax dollars going to the capital program and replacing it with more debt, along with many other seemingly-minor adjustments that will only exasperate pre-existing issues over the coming years. Death by a thousand cuts as they say. All just to keep municipal property taxes low while school divisions go unchecked because "think of the kids!".

Over the past 20 years, our elected officials at the municipal level have only ever done two things correctly: find enough money to fill potholes and keep taxes low. Meanwhile everything else crumbles, scaring away actual investment to other cities because who wants to live in a City stuck in the 1960's? But hey, at least are roads are in good condition! (mostly).

esquire · #**3213** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 2:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by drew

6 storey, steel frame with mostly hollowcore floors.

Front has brick finish. Sides and back are insulated metal paneling.

rrskylar · #**3214** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 2:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

On street lighting. Our street lights have been out or not turned on I guess, many times this summer. I haven't noticed exact durations. But seem like it's all the time.

I remember this came up during the budget. Keeping street lights turned off to save money. Anyone else notice this?

It's very dark at night, which is kind of nice actually.

The changeover to LED led to most of the light being directed downward giving the appearance of not as much light! Turning off LED lights won't get you much in saving!

esquire · #**3215** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 2:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by rrskylar

The changeover to LED led to most of the light being directed downward giving the appearance of not as much light! Turning off LED lights won't get you much in saving!

That's what I was thinking... the streets have generally seemed darker since the switch to LED lights. It feels like you have to be practically under the lamp now, as compared to before when the old-school lamps lit up a pretty big area by comparison.

bomberjet · #**3216** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 3:01 PM**

My back lane and yard say otherwise. Super bright with the LED.

My front street with the lights turned off is like living out in the country. Only light is people living room windows.

Regarding death by 1000 cuts and the tax situation. I guess nobody will elect a candidate that runs on overhauling taxes and taking care of trees. Just "fix my roads, everything else be damned!". Pretty sad actually.

peg · #**3217** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 3:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by Wpg_Guy

Or find a different solution than salt.

Fair enough hahaha, I more siad that cause the high speeds of cars are the main issue with salts when it comes to trees.

plrh · #**3218** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 4:22 PM**

https://globalnews.ca/news/4282890/i...-in-the-works/

Does anyone have any more info on this? In the Construction Association Report it said tendering 2021 and that it was 75000 ft2s. Probably dependent on government funding, so not too likely. I don't remember hearing about it ever.

cllew · #**3219** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 4:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

On street lighting. Our street lights have been out or not turned on I guess, many times this summer. I haven't noticed exact durations. But seem like it's all the time.

I remember this came up during the budget. Keeping street lights turned off to save money. Anyone else notice this?

It's very dark at night, which is kind of nice actually.

That was just a suggestion to save money but did not happen.

Hydro just doesn't patrol the streets as much during the days to looking for light outages because LED bulbs are suppose to be longer lasting.

You have to either phone their trouble line or use their online web reporting page to get the lights fixed. After you call they are usually restored to service in a few days.

bomberjet · #**3220** Posted **Sep 21, 2020, 4:35 PM**

I'll see if they're on tonight. It's not just 1 light. It's a couple blocks at least. Maybe a whole circuit is out.