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Old Posted Sep 17, 2020, 9:42 PM
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Old Posted Sep 17, 2020, 9:47 PM
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What I really want to know is if Lio would be OK with demolishing the Frank Lloyd Wright falling water house, as it's less than 100 years old.
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Your flippant comments and dismissal of anything post war being worth saving gave the impression that your consideration of what is historic is quite narrow. That combined with previous comments that you have made and the fact that you are a landlord led me to said conclusion. I am happy to be corrected if you do care and have preserved historic structures before. As for the comment about the quality of your developments I originally invited you to post a before and after pic to judge but didn’t want to derail things further. IMO almost all new homes look worse than 100 year old ones unless they are modern or classic and well constucted.
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How do we make that work on a practical level, though?

Many old buildings are privately-owned, and are often costly to renovate.

Do we create government subsidy programs for the upkeep and renovation of any building that is older than X years old, regardless of architectural or other interest?

What about the cost of lost opportunities for property owners who might want to use the property to build something larger or more modern, but are forced by the law to keep the old character? Who pays for that?
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Is he really saying that if it's not old enough, it's not worth saving, or is he saying that just because it's old doesn't mean it's automatically worth saving, and that other factors need to be considered?

In Ottawa in the 1980s IIRC there was a debate over the fate of the Daly Building, located right next to the Château Laurier so prime real estate. At the time it wasn't even 100 years old. But people wanted to save it as an example of Chicago-style architecture.

https://www.google.com/search?q=daly+bui...KHT8NCrUQ_AUoAnoECAsQBA&biw=1536&bih=722

Would Lio advocate its destruction because it wasn't old enough?

Would he agree with demolishing anything by Frank Lloyd Wright because almost none of it is even a century old?

We'd have to ask him.
There are interesting conversations to be had on this topic, and I'll likely proceed with that, as time allows.

I'm kinda busy at the moment, actually; contrary to what some think, I can't afford to be like this too often:

     
     
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Old Posted Sep 17, 2020, 9:48 PM
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Is that Edmonton?
I thought it was Edmonton, until I spotted and recognized the Château Frontenac. That landmark then gave it away.

(Missed your comment the first time )
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 17, 2020, 10:08 PM
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If it wasn't for who posted it and the Alberta Legislator visible in the back, it would be very tough to identify. The Government District of Edmonton is not as well known or photographed and contains many non-distinct buildings. Reminds me of the South Portage area of Winnipeg or even Downtown Halifax 20 years ago, with Dartmouth across a foggy Halifax Harbour.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 17, 2020, 11:43 PM
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Them being pretty is no matter, those buildings have historic value, a link to our past if you will. Raising them removes that link.
So we should retain every single building just because they are “old”, regardless of historical and/or architectural value ?
     
     
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QC reminds me a bit of Edinburgh, at least from that angle.
Not grey enough ...
     
     
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Not grey enough ...
It's pretty grey. Also all of the stairs when walking around make it resemble Endinburgh at street level.

Also that Edmonton pic I thought was Hamilton at first.
     
     
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Some bozo spent five minutes to glue* The One into a great Bloor Street skyline shot by tstormers at UT.

(*glued with permission)

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Old Posted Sep 18, 2020, 3:11 AM
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If it wasn't for who posted it and the Alberta Legislator visible in the back, it would be very tough to identify. The Government District of Edmonton is not as well known or photographed and contains many non-distinct buildings. Reminds me of the South Portage area of Winnipeg or even Downtown Halifax 20 years ago, with Dartmouth across a foggy Halifax Harbour.
The left midground actually reminds me a lot of the view of the Halifax Peninsula looking across the Arm from the Mainland neighbourhoods. The "back" of the skyline, essentially.

The buildings in the foreground remind me of what actually exists in Downtown Dartmouth, and Alderney Drive (the main vehicular arterial through DT Dartmouth) has always reminded me a lot of DT Edmonton.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 18, 2020, 4:18 AM
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Toronto by udo schuklenk, on Flickr
I unironically thought for a second that this could be Edmonton (or if not Edmonton, maybe Calgary from a weird angle) but then noticed the CN tower and all the weird balconies etc

     
     
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Old Posted Sep 18, 2020, 4:36 AM
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Calgary, for most of the reasons discussed over the last dozen or so pages, honestly has one of the most distinctive skylines/cityscapes in North America, IMO. It lacks a lot of the things that would be associated with large Canadian Cities as well as many things associated with large American cities. And not necessarily in a bad way IMO. It pulls it off well.

I've never been to Minneapolis but the impression I get it's fairly low-key and placid compared to most major US metros and (especially compared to its main counterpart, Chicago) has a sort of unpretentious, "small Midwest town that happens to contain a few million people" kind of vibe. Sort of like if you smushed Edmonton, Winnipeg, Moncton, and/or KWC together, without giving the resultant metro area much national clout or attention. The urban fabric and architecture of the Twin Cities also seems both "very typical Northern US" as well as "not unlike most of Canada, in practice". It has a fairly unassuming character and doesn't seem to really strive for attention.

Calgary seems a bit more happening in comparison these days (or at least a few years ago). Definitely relative to metro area population but in many ways, probably even in absolute terms.
     
     
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I unironically thought for a second that this could be Edmonton (or if not Edmonton, maybe Calgary from a weird angle) but then noticed the CN tower and all the weird balconies etc

Generic condo, and now office towers with the same green glass, are starting to dominate (if they don't already) Canadian cities, so it's not surprising that skylines are starting to look alike.
     
     
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The left midground actually reminds me a lot of the view of the Halifax Peninsula looking across the Arm from the Mainland neighbourhoods. The "back" of the skyline, essentially.

The buildings in the foreground remind me of what actually exists in Downtown Dartmouth, and Alderney Drive (the main vehicular arterial through DT Dartmouth) has always reminded me a lot of DT Edmonton.
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I unironically thought for a second that this could be Edmonton (or if not Edmonton, maybe Calgary from a weird angle) but then noticed the CN tower and all the weird balconies etc


Is Edmonton now the Kevin Bacon of skylines?
     
     
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To be fair, that image of Toronto is very blue which eccentuates the greens....must be something to do with what the image was taken from...(A cell phone it seems by the quality).

Great images of Calgary and Edmonton, the layering in both cities always impresses me...particularly the latter.
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Some bozo spent five minutes to glue* The One into a great Bloor Street skyline shot by tstormers at UT.

(*glued with permission)

I’m probably going to catch a lot of flack for this, but I’m not a huge fan of The One. It’s quite underwhelming imo. I prefer the other Toronto Foster tower whose name I can’t recall that has the 3 sections rising and the rendering magic wavy tree landscaping. Besides the height I just find it kinda boring. It at least gets bonus points though for not doing gimmicky balcony patterns.

Nice photoshop though.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 18, 2020, 5:42 AM
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^ I don't think you'll catch flack. The One is far from some objectively beautiful building. It will be tall, and that's about it. It's not bad, but it's no showstopper either.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 18, 2020, 11:52 AM
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I’m probably going to catch a lot of flack for this, but I’m not a huge fan of The One. It’s quite underwhelming imo.
I'd say you would catch a lot of flack for this, if more users here were like you and Chad, and someone couldn't hope to express a defensible, reasonable opinion without it immediately resulting in a dozen pages of drama through having to defend oneself from vicious attacks.

Honestly, I have higher expectations than that from this forum generally, so I'll be betting that you won't get any flack. It's perfectly fine to share your personal opinion, whatever it is.

The very worst that should happen (say, if you were to say you absolutely hated both the Chrysler and Seagram buildings on a site like this) would be people pointing out that there's a near-consensus among people who know what they're talking about finding them to be outstandingly desirable buildings and that you're definitely in the minority with that opinion of yours.
     
     
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