Great Canadian Skyline Thread II

[suburbanite]

I remember that house on 8th line.

Last post before this goes too off-topic. Check out this subdivision in suburban Chicago.

[megadude]

Amazing. I kinda like it like how when I lived off Mainway in Burlington light industrial was around the corner. I liked that it's an industrial street (newer, maintained one, not crappy old one) and so for the time I leaving for work or coming back, the typical rush hour traffic for that area was off peak.

I'd probably get tired of that Chicago one eventually but wouldn't mind it for a while.

[Chadillaccc]

Originally Posted by O-tacular

The reason you remind me of Dwight is the ridiculous lengths that you go to defend literally any asinine argument.

That's exactly it; the insane lengths he will go to grasp at straws defending an undefendable assertion.



By GoVertical on SRC


By SurrealPlaces on SRC

[WhipperSnapper]

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.8322087,...GpGKLF5UezpvjUrJcWRzQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

This is a portion of Finch Avenue East in the City of Toronto

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.8344756,...itch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656

Imagine what this shack and outhouses could be worth if you could rezone it for a dense apartment and townhome community.

[Hackslack]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

By GoVertical on SRC

Spectacular

[GeneralLea]

I've walked along that area, around the Rouge. It really reminded me of being out in Middlesex or Perth County, near a provincial park...but with an insane amount of traffic. I couldn't even cross the road...so I had to turn back into Rouge Park.

[megadude]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.8322087,...GpGKLF5UezpvjUrJcWRzQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

This is a portion of Finch Avenue East in the City of Toronto

Which 23 years ago was suburban Toronto. I've fished the Rouge and tributaries many times in this area by the zoo. Some nice twisty, up and down roads in the area.

Because this mega city Toronto is fairly developed throughout, from Old Toronto (the actual Toronto to us pre-merger people) to the boundaries of North York, Etobicoke, Scarboro, etc. it's easy to see it as one urbanized city and call all of it Toronto. But to me, that stretch will always be Scarboro by the Zoo. And the Zoo is not like some other city's zoos where they are closer to town, but Toronto Zoo is "way out there".

Hamilton to me, on the other hand, after the 2001 merger, is still the old Hamilton. I will never call Ancaster, Dundas, Glanbrook, Stoney Creek and Flamboro Hamilton. I will always refer their former town names or even by the village/community name like Binbrook, Waterdown, Carlisle, Rockton, etc. because there is such rural/green space separation between communities. Or to people not from the area, I say Rural Hamilton. I go fishing in those areas too so I drive around there quite a bit. I can imagine Ottawa people doing that too.

[megadude]

That's my dream house scenario, like that house on a rural lot by Finch, in the city. A more country style house of course, but lots of green space, by the water, and still close to everything. Lots of those houses in the Rouge Valley area in Scarboro and Pickering. And Valley being the keyword. I would want the area to have some interesting geography too. So rural Brampton on Heritage Rd, Caledon but close to Brampton border, Oakville by one of the two rivers close to the foot of the Escarpment, or Burlington and Milton at the foot or just on the Escarpment. York Region has nice areas too around the Oak Ridges Moraine.

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally Posted by megadude

Which 23 years ago was suburban Toronto. I've fished the Rouge and tributaries many times in this area by the zoo. Some nice twisty, up and down roads in the area.

Because this mega city Toronto is fairly developed throughout, from Old Toronto (the actual Toronto to us pre-merger people) to the boundaries of North York, Etobicoke, Scarboro, etc. it's easy to see it as one urbanized city and call all of it Toronto. But to me, that stretch will always be Scarboro by the Zoo. And the Zoo is not like some other city's zoos where they are closer to town, but Toronto Zoo is "way out there".

Hamilton to me, on the other hand, after the 2001 merger, is still the old Hamilton. I will never call Ancaster, Dundas, Glanbrook, Stoney Creek and Flamboro Hamilton. I will always refer their former town names or even by the village/community name like Binbrook, Waterdown, Carlisle, Rockton, etc. because there is such rural/green space separation between communities. Or to people not from the area, I say Rural Hamilton. I go fishing in those areas too so I drive around there quite a bit. I can imagine Ottawa people doing that too.

This was suburban Toronto long before amalgamation too. Maybe you never lived it? I was taught Steeles was the northern most street in the city in the 1980s. Most conversations about Toronto were in reference to the upper tier named Metropolitan Toronto. The signs on the highways read now entering Metropolitan Toronto population 2.1 million. It wasn't 6 distinct cities being merged into one. It was the amalgamation of two municipal tiers into one.

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Very nice! I never noticed the light feature on top of Edmonton Tower.

Yeah, it's only visible from the north so perhaps that is why (most visitors approach DT from the south). I've only ever seen it as a moving aurora borealis image, but there is definitely the capability to change it up.

[megadude]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

This was suburban Toronto long before amalgamation too. Maybe you never lived it? I was taught Steeles was the northern most street in the city in the 1980s. Most conversations about Toronto were in reference to the upper tier named Metropolitan Toronto. The signs on the highways read now entering Metropolitan Toronto population 2.1 million. It wasn't 6 distinct cities being merged into one. It was the amalgamation of two municipal tiers into one.

Spent the first eight years of my life on Don Mills a one minute drive south of Steeles. And would visit often after I moved.

Yes, it was always Toronto in a general sense. But I knew I was always in Metro Toronto (North York) and not Toronto, Toronto. Back then if someone said North York was suburban Toronto, people wouldn't bat an eye. Even though it is sometimes said now, like for example during live election results, most people now wouldn't think of those places as suburban Toronto. They think the four surrounding Regions.

Is there anything remotely close in Old Toronto? As in a road that feels rural or at least very much out of place, with a few houses, surrounded by nature. But the houses are modest, 30+ years old, maybe even a workshop on site. Maybe at some point around Evergreen Brick Works or Pottery Road?

This street in Brampton feels out of place. On one side is nature and kind of gives a rural feel. On the other side, where the backyards are, is the opposite though.

There are of course rural areas in Brampton, but just find this one curious because the street is the dividing line between nature and industry. And is close to the highway and basically borders the city of Toronto.

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.7453438,-79.6518836,641m/data=!3m1!1e3

[Pavlov]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

That's exactly it; the insane lengths he will go to grasp at straws defending an undefendable assertion.


By SurrealPlaces on SRC

Do we need to debate the number of wooden shacks in this photo?

[suburbanite]

Those townhouses upfront looks like they could be wood-framed construction. Absolutely repulsive to have them so close to downtown.

[logan5]

Not repulsive, but not ideal.

Calgary will never have much high density outside of the downtown and Beltline. There's too much land available. Even if it is just townhouses outside the core though, that still provides enough density to support vibrant neighbourhoods.

[905er]

love those Calgary pics... Love the city!

[Pavlov]

Originally Posted by suburbanite

Those townhouses upfront looks like they could be wood-framed construction. Absolutely repulsive to have them so close to downtown.

I should have known that someone would find something to nitpick!

Anyway, according to google maps, those are a roughly 35 minute walk (2.7 km) from the CBD. They're ugly as hell but I don't think they're repulsive or a sign of an unhealthy urban neighborhood (especially in the context of a North American prairie city with less than 1.5 million people).

Honestly I think people are pretty hard on Calgary on this forum. Its made great strides in the last twenty years in terms of urbanity.

[ZTrade]

Originally Posted by megadude

Hamilton to me, on the other hand, after the 2001 merger, is still the old Hamilton. I will never call Ancaster, Dundas, Glanbrook, Stoney Creek and Flamboro Hamilton. I will always refer their former town names or even by the village/community name like Binbrook, Waterdown, Carlisle, Rockton, etc. because there is such rural/green space separation between communities. Or to people not from the area, I say Rural Hamilton. I go fishing in those areas too so I drive around there quite a bit. I can imagine Ottawa people doing that too.

Ancaster, Stoney Creek and Dundas are all one urban connection now with proper Hamilton. The people that live in those suburbs go into Hamilton as much as someone from Etobicoke/NY/Scarb would go to old Toronto. There is solid bus service to Fruitland in Stoney Creek and Dundas. Waterdown (Should be Burlington) and the more Rural locations should have never got amalgamated with Hamilton.

Here's a picture of Hamilton because this is a skyscraper thread:

[Sonog]

https://www.instagram.com/jefrosonic/

[megadude]

Originally Posted by ZTrade

Ancaster, Stoney Creek and Dundas are all one urban connection now with proper Hamilton. The people that live in those suburbs go into Hamilton as much as someone from Etobicoke/NY/Scarb would go to old Toronto. There is solid bus service to Fruitland in Stoney Creek and Dundas. Waterdown (Should be Burlington) and the more Rural locations should have never got amalgamated with Hamilton.

I know what you mean. But what makes it different for me is that Ancaster and Dundas in particular have clear Main St. type downtowns giving a feeling of a town or small city. And those two are separated by green space/escarpment. Though yes, their development overall does extend into Hamilton proper.

While downtown North York, which is a bunch of tall buildings just feels like another node of Toronto. And what exactly is downtown Etobicoke and Scaroboro? I actually don't know where their former city halls were but I don't picture them having a downtown at all. Well maybe around STC (mall) and Bloor and Islington?

And ya, Waterdown feels more like Burlington with all those subdivisions now and the rural eastern part of it is no different than the NW portion of Burlington. But downtown Waterdown is unique. Not big, but unique. If it were Burlington it would be like what Port Credit or Streetsville is to Sauga. Burlington has Kilbride and Lowville, clearly little isolated communities of their own, but they don't have downtowns.

[Razor]

Originally Posted by Pavlov

Honestly I think people are pretty hard on Calgary on this forum. Its made great strides in the last twenty years in terms of urbanity.

I don't see that, especially since the over the top boosterism from only a couple of the same Calgary forumers seemed to die off rapidly this past year or two ago.