Airport Rail Link - Page 6

Uhuniau · #**101** Posted **Jul 13, 2015, 11:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by lrt's friend

Route 300 now goes to the airport from downtown.

Meh. I'll still take the train.

OTSkyline · #**102** Posted **Jul 14, 2015, 2:00 PM**

I think it all depends on what the city is considering for the airport link..

If it's the first option that was discussed having a rail line from the Airport terminal to Bayview to connect to the confederation line then I am all for it. I think it is important to connect fast and reliable and comfortable transit solution to the airport and 1 connection at Bayview is easy and I don't think it's too much to ask. I mean with that 1 connection a tourist (or resident) could access South Keys, Carleton U, Dow's Lake/Little Italy, Bayview, Lebreton, all of Downtown with Parliament and hotels nearby, Rideau Centre/NAC, Byward Market, OttawaU, VIA train station, St-Laurent, Orleans/Place d'Orleans, Algonquin College, Bayshore,e tc... ALL within 1 transfer.

If they are considering the later solution of having a train from Airport to South Keys/Greenboro, then another train from South Keys/Greenboro to Bayview OR the even more ridiculous option of running shuttles from the airport to South Keys/Greenboro, then I vote no.. Then it's true that it becomes way too complicated and that the 97 would be the better option.

1overcosc · #**103** Posted **Jul 14, 2015, 2:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by OTSkyline

I think it all depends on what the city is considering for the airport link..

If it's the first option that was discussed having a rail line from the Airport terminal to Bayview to connect to the confederation line then I am all for it. I think it is important to connect fast and reliable and comfortable transit solution to the airport and 1 connection at Bayview is easy and I don't think it's too much to ask. I mean with that 1 connection a tourist (or resident) could access South Keys, Carleton U, Dow's Lake/Little Italy, Bayview, Lebreton, all of Downtown with Parliament and hotels nearby, Rideau Centre/NAC, Byward Market, OttawaU, VIA train station, St-Laurent, Orleans/Place d'Orleans, Algonquin College, Bayshore,e tc... ALL within 1 transfer.

If they are considering the later solution of having a train from Airport to South Keys/Greenboro, then another train from South Keys/Greenboro to Bayview OR the even more ridiculous option of running shuttles from the airport to South Keys/Greenboro, then I vote no.. Then it's true that it becomes way too complicated and that the 97 would be the better option.

Agreed.

Here's hoping the province doesn't provide the city with the money to do the ridiculous shuttling arrangement... (or, even better, the province does and also provides a few hundred mill to double track the Trillium trunk).

DEWLine · #**104** Posted **Jul 26, 2015, 10:15 PM**

Extending the "Trillium" line all the way to the airport terminal makes sense to me as well. We don't need Rube Goldberg-style series of shuttle lines.

ACmodels · #**105** Posted **Jul 28, 2015, 11:02 PM**

$2B from upper-tiers won't cut it for Ottawa airport rail

BY JON WILLING, OTTAWA SUN
FIRST POSTED: TUESDAY, JULY 28, 2015 06:22 PM EDT | UPDATED: TUESDAY, JULY 28, 2015 06:33 PM EDT

Building an airport rail link won't be easy if the most the city can secure is $3 billion for its transit expansion.

The federal Conservatives have vowed to provide $1 billion for the Phase 2 LRT and Trillium Line expansion. The provincial Liberals have said they're in for $1 billion. And the city says it can only afford the one-third matching amount.

A Trillium Line airport spur is estimated at an additional $155 million. If the upper-tiers don't pay for it, the spur is in jeopardy.

Mayor Jim Watson has written to Prime Minister Stephen Harper suggesting a rail link should qualify for additional federal money, but the Conservatives' point man on Ottawa LRT issues suggested the city shouldn't expect more money.

"We established in the last budget approved by Parliament a fiscal framework that allows for $1 billion," Ottawa-Orléans MP Royal Galipeau said Tuesday.

The city seems to be saving money on the first phase and, Galipeau opined, it might save money while building the second phase.

"At this moment let's just celebrate that the Canadian taxpayers are amply generous, more generous with the taxpayers of the City of Ottawa than with any other city in the country," he said.

Both the airport and business community have stressed the importance of building an airport spur during the Phase 2 construction between 2018 and 2023, rather than adding it sometime down the road. The airport is willing to help fund a rail station at the terminal.

Cumberland Coun. Stephen Blais, chair of the transit commission, has faith in the negotiations between the mayor, city manager Kent Kirkpatrick and the upper-tiers on the Phase 2 funding agreement.

"I think everyone is being cautious when they talk about budgets, especially when you're ahead of an election," Blais said.

Blais said freeing up money for an airport spur, plus another $160 million for an LRT extension to Trim Rd., "is a lot of savings to find" in a $3-billion budget.

Galipeau doesn't like being needled on future transit funding.

The MP revealed he wasn't happy back in October 2013 when reporters wanted to know if the feds would help fund the city's (at the time) days-old Phase 2 plan.

"I was annoyed when we put the shovel in the ground on Phase 1 of light rail transit -- we hadn't put the shovel in the ground -- and people were asking about Phase 2," Galipeau said.

"We've agreed to $1 billion for Phase 2. We've already agreed to $770 million for Phase 1," Galipeau said, before quipping, "don't talk to me about Phase 3 today."

Twitter: @JonathanWilling

http://www.ottawasun.com/2015/07/28/2b-from-upper-tiers-wont-cut-it-for-ottawa-airport-rail

Uhuniau · #**106** Posted **Jul 29, 2015, 4:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by ACmodels

"At this moment let's just celebrate that the Canadian taxpayers are amply generous, more generous with the taxpayers of the City of Ottawa than with any other city in the country," he said.

Unless I am mistaken, Calgary is also a city in Canada, and Canadian taxpayers are also sending transit funding, amounting to more than $1-billion, to the Green Line project:

http://www.calgarycitynews.com/2015/07/federal-funding-to-fast-forward-green.html

MoreTrains · #**107** Posted **Jul 30, 2015, 6:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by Uhuniau

Unless I am mistaken, Calgary is also a city in Canada, and Canadian taxpayers are also sending transit funding, amounting to more than $1-billion, to the Green Line project:

http://www.calgarycitynews.com/2015/07/federal-funding-to-fast-forward-green.html

You forget, Royal doesnt look outside his own riding. Infact I am surprised he hasnt said that the Feds consider the Trim extenstion more important than the Airport Spur.

1overcosc · #**108** Posted **Jul 30, 2015, 7:41 PM**

Given that Galipeau is probably the most threatened CPC incumbent in the area (his riding has a pretty high chance of being a Liberal gain, and is shown as such by a pretty big margin by 308), it would make sense for him to become local-obsessed.

orleans_man · #**109** Posted **Jun 3, 2016, 2:47 PM**

New Phase 2 funding announcement looks to include Rail Link to airport.

"The funds will help expand the line to the Ottawa airport in the south end, as well as to Trim Road in Orléans to the east."

CBC Article

lrt's friend · #**110** Posted **Jun 3, 2016, 4:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by orleans_man

New Phase 2 funding announcement looks to include Rail Link to airport.

"The funds will help expand the line to the Ottawa airport in the south end, as well as to Trim Road in Orléans to the east."

CBC Article

Great! They are actually going to fund that transfer mess at South Keys. Heaven help us. Good luck trying to take transit to the airport. The Trillium Line's irregular schedule is about to get more irregular.

Mr.Flintstone · #**111** Posted **Jun 3, 2016, 6:01 PM**

When Rocketphish doesn't post the article I feel he's slacking looool

EDIT: Notice he posted the article in the confederation line thread, My bad Rocketphish

Is there a official plan for the extension ?

rocketphish · #**112** Posted **Jun 3, 2016, 10:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by Mr.Flintstone

When Rocketphish doesn't post the article I feel he's slacking looool

EDIT: Notice he posted the article in the confederation line thread, My bad Rocketphish

Is there a official plan for the extension ?

LOL I guess I could have cross-posted it

The Conductor · #**113** Posted **Aug 22, 2020, 10:12 PM**

I'm very excited with the plans for the airport line. The station looks good and it's in a good enter/exit point of the Airport Terminal

caboose · #**114** Posted **Aug 22, 2020, 11:59 PM**

Now would be the time to rethink the length of the platform. They need to future proof it for the Stadler trains, which are much longer than the Alstoms, and are convertible to electric when electrification of the line happens...

The Conductor · #**115** Posted **Aug 23, 2020, 7:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by caboose

Now would be the time to rethink the length of the platform. They need to future proof it for the Stadler trains, which are much longer than the Alstoms, and are convertible to electric when electrification of the line happens...

I agree 100%

OCCheetos · #**116** Posted **Aug 23, 2020, 7:16 PM**

The platforms on the Airport Link all have protections for future platform extensions, including the elevated Airport station.

caboose · #**117** Posted **Aug 23, 2020, 11:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by OCCheetos

The platforms on the Airport Link all have protections for future platform extensions, including the elevated Airport station.

That's good thinking.

The Conductor · #**118** Posted **Aug 25, 2020, 1:16 AM**

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Originally Posted by OCCheetos

The platforms on the Airport Link all have protections for future platform extensions, including the elevated Airport station.

I didn't realize that but happy to hear it now, we need that sort of planning for future growth and traffic

The Conductor · #**119** Posted **Aug 25, 2020, 1:16 AM**

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Originally Posted by caboose

That's good thinking.

I agree, it's a very good planning

caboose · #**120** Posted **Aug 25, 2020, 2:14 AM**

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Originally Posted by OCCheetos

The platforms on the Airport Link all have protections for future platform extensions, including the elevated Airport station.

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Originally Posted by The Conductor

I didn't realize that but happy to hear it now, we need that sort of planning for future growth and traffic

The Stadler FLIRT trains show a lot of promise, being able to be converted to electric when the time comes.