YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[nname]

Seems like AI will be running scheduled 3x weekly YVR-DEL service for the month of August, until Aug 30. Flights are now open for reservation.

AI1143 DEL 0330 - 0700 YVR 77W 357
AI1144 YVR 1015 - 1445+1 DEL 77W 357

[Nites]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

we shouldn't be seeing these planes here either with this virus going on.

Like no planes at all or just the A380 in general?

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by nname

Seems like AI will be running scheduled 3x weekly YVR-DEL service for the month of August, until Aug 30. Flights are now open for reservation.

AI1143 DEL 0330 - 0700 YVR 77W 357
AI1144 YVR 1015 - 1445+1 DEL 77W 357

Interesting that it's Air India doing this. Do they have normal landing rights at YVR, or is this special status?
It's nice to see yet another foreign tailfin here, though Air Canada normal time service seems just fine as it goes.

[thenoflyzone]

Originally Posted by nname

Seems like AI will be running scheduled 3x weekly YVR-DEL service for the month of August, until Aug 30. Flights are now open for reservation.

AI1143 DEL 0330 - 0700 YVR 77W 357
AI1144 YVR 1015 - 1445+1 DEL 77W 357

This seems to be exactly the same kind of permission QR received to launch Toronto in July.

Originally Posted by trofirhen

Interesting that it's Air India doing this. Do they have normal landing rights at YVR, or is this special status?
It's nice to see yet another foreign tailfin here, though Air Canada normal time service seems just fine as it goes.

AI is allowed to fly to YVR, but is limited to 2x weekly frequencies under the current bilateral agreement.

This is clearly an extra-bilateral affair (considering it is 3x weekly service, and ends August 30th) similar to the deal QR had for YYZ.

[Nites]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

Interesting that it's Air India doing this. Do they have normal landing rights at YVR, or is this special status?
It's nice to see yet another foreign tailfin here, though Air Canada normal time service seems just fine as it goes.

16 hour flight as well. Wasn't the route was 14 hours with AC?

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Nites

16 hour flight as well. Wasn't the route was 14 hours with AC?

Interesting. If both flights are YVR - DEL, then wouldn't they be much the same duration? Unless there was an intermediate stop, and I don't think there was.

[thenoflyzone]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

Interesting. If both flights are YVR - DEL, then wouldn't they be much the same duration? Unless there was an intermediate stop, and I don't think there was.

They are the same duration. AI's schedule is off.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ai1144

Over halfway back to DEL, and total flight time is estimated around 14h as well.

[Denscity]

Originally Posted by Nites

Like no planes at all or just the A380 in general?

I think he meant flights from China.

[Denscity]

Daily Hive is reporting that the YVR international terminal building expansion will be completed in December.

[nname]

YVR June Passenger Stat

Domestic: 142,934 (-87.3%)

International:
Transborder: 13,702 (-97.7%)
Asia Pacific: 28,732 (-92.8%)
Europe: 1,979 (-99.1%)
Misc.: 2,361 (-94.8%)
Sub Total: 46,774 (-96.3%)

Total: 189,708 (-92.1%)

[Vagabond]

Perhaps no surprise, but looks like AC has turfed their plans to fly to SNA from YVR. We had tickets booked for March 2021, and just received notice that they've cancelled our flights and are instead planning to send us to LAX (god forbid...)

We'll likely cancel and take the AC credit, although I'm wondering if AC will honour the original itinerary if their route plans change again? I see both AC & WJ already jacking up prices for sun destinations during spring break 2021, so I'd hate to have to re-book and pay more out of pocket at a later date (if I cancel now).

[nname]

Some Long-Haul updates for the next couple of months:

AI had extended 3x weekly operation to DEL till the end of September.
AC had reduce planned DEL from 3x to 1x weekly for the month of September (subject to government approval).
TK pushed YVR launch back to Oct 4
MF added 2nd weekly flight to XMN starting Aug 25
AC added 2nd weekly flight to PVG (via ICN) starting Aug 30

With 10x weekly, YVR is now becoming THE connecting airport for Chinese Americans trying the escape USA (according to some Chinese forums)... AC and Fairmont YVR must be making some good money out of this

[Johnny Aussie]

^ And some more special liveried aircraft in last couple of days.

China Eastern and Air India etc.

VN flew in a 787-10 yesterday and another VN flight due in tomorrow (HAN-YVR-CTS-HAN routing)

Eye trapper has added some more fantastic YouTube videos capturing the extensive variety of flights YVR has had lately.

[nname]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

VN flew in a 787-10 yesterday and another VN flight due in tomorrow.

The flight on both days is:

VN8 HAN-YVR-CTS-HAN/SGN

Not sure what they are stopping at Sapporo for... 78X should have the range for non-stop?

[nname]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

Interesting that it's Air India doing this. Do they have normal landing rights at YVR, or is this special status?
It's nice to see yet another foreign tailfin here, though Air Canada normal time service seems just fine as it goes.

Commercial flights are not allowed to/from India. All fights to India on both AC and AI are actually "repatriation flights", but they are fully bookable both ways by anyone from any site/agency with any payment method, just like regular commercial flights. However, the airlines must obtain government approval every month.

I guess since they are "repatriation flights", they don't need to follow bilateral restriction?

[Klazu]

I don't understand the logic of continued repatriation flights. There cannot be anyone left still "desperately trying to get back home", so why are those being flown? Covid situation in India is also way worse than it is in here, so why would people want to return. I am honestly curious about the reasoning for them?

[nname]

For the India case, it's just an excuse to go around the government restriction of scheduled commercial flight. The the same as scheduled flight, beside the monthly approval thing.

For instance, an American who never been to India can book YVR-DEL though Google Flights and "repatriated" to India, assuming they are allowed to enter the country (transit in Canada is allowed). And then the government of India can add 1 to the number of people repatriated

[thenoflyzone]

Originally Posted by nname

With 10x weekly, YVR is now becoming THE connecting airport for Chinese Americans trying the escape USA (according to some Chinese forums)... AC and Fairmont YVR must be making some good money out of this

Americans (Chinese or otherwise) need to remain in the sterile transit area when connecting in Canada. They are not allowed to leave that area, so Fairmont won’t benefit.

[nname]

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone

Americans (Chinese or otherwise) need to remain in the sterile transit area when connecting in Canada. They are not allowed to leave that area, so Fairmont won’t benefit.

Currently all passenger who satisfy the condition for China Transit Program are allow to transit through Canada as long as they depart within 24 hours.

As overnight stay are not allowed post security in YVR, all passengers using CTP are allowed temporary entry into Canada if they show a valid reservation for the stay at Fairmont Vancouver Airport and promise that they would not leave the airport premise. Anyone else who normally allowed to enter Canada must do the same - they are allow to enter Canada for overnight transit but MUST stay within the airport.

[whatnext]

Is Air Tahiti Nui still calling at YVR?