Vancouver Infill & Lowrise Updates Discussion

[GenWhy?]

Update on the Birch Street MIRHPP project:
- Current support letters as of July 6 at 277
- Current opposed letters as of July 6 at 93

The Fairview South Granville Action Committee has a website, petition, did their own "research" talk a lot about shadows (little about affordability and housing) and have Facebook ads up to get this quashed. I can't recall if Jamison hired a PR team but they maybe should have.

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

this sort of relates

Vancouver city councillor hopes to bring back corner stores
https://www.citynews1130.com/video/2020/...illor-hopes-to-bring-back-corner-stores/

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City of Vancouver to explore reviving corner stores in neighbourhoods

Kenneth Chan | Jun 25 2020



Corner grocery stores played an important role in Vancouver’s residential neighbourhoods decades ago, before the prominence of large chain-owned stores and the municipal government’s practice of discouraging new additional businesses.

Most of the corner stores that remain today are in ageing structures, such as Le Marche St. George in Riley Park-Little Mountain, the Federal Store on Quebec Street in Mount Pleasant, the Wilder Snail on Keefer Street in Strathcona, and West Side Market on West 16th Avenue in Point Grey.

These businesses are in structures built a century ago, with the youngest being the 1940-built Federal Store.

...

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/vancouver-corner-stores

i think this is a good idea. but, that being said, i don't see this working without subsidies from governments. people drive all over for a Walmart and a cheaper place to buy things. there isn't enough foot traffic on these streets, let alone enough residents willing to pay more instead of to to a mega/chainstore somewhere else.

that's just the way it is and way it will be until something forces people to change their way

[officedweller]

As a side note - remember that Costco and other warehouse stores started as suppliers for small businesses like these.

HY Louie (which would have also been a supplier to corner stores) closed its wholesale operations in 2016:
http://www.canadiangrocer.com/uncategorized/h-y-louie-to-close-wholesale-operations-61520

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by GenWhy?

Update on the Birch Street MIRHPP project:
- Current support letters as of July 6 at 277
- Current opposed letters as of July 6 at 93

3:1 in support, holy sh*t.

[Galaxy]

I don't think they want your Grandfathers corner stores back with this plan. I could totally see stores that provide services that people in 2020 and beyond actually would pay for in there local areas that they could not get at Costco or Walmart. A place to have your packages dropped off so you can pick them up on your way home maybe. I can imagine corner stores that provide repair services for people or even hybrid of coffee shops and another new service that makes more sense to fit the needs of the places and not so cookie cutter.

[cov]

Originally Posted by Galaxy

I don't think they want your Grandfathers corner stores back with this plan. I could totally see stores that provide services that people in 2020 and beyond actually would pay for in there local areas that they could not get at Costco or Walmart. A place to have your packages dropped off so you can pick them up on your way home maybe. I can imagine corner stores that provide repair services for people or even hybrid of coffee shops and another new service that makes more sense to fit the needs of the places and not so cookie cutter.

completely agree, businesses will find a way to fulfill unmet needs. The city government shouldn't be forbidding commercial activities in the first place. Numerous corner stores exist in Vancouver right now as coffee shops and high-end grocers. If investors want to give it a shot why not?

[cyclinginvancouver]

1405 E 15th Ave and 3071-3047 Maddams St

The proposal is to allow for the development of 6 -storey secured rental building. The zoning would change from RT-2 (multiple dwelling) to CD-1 (comprehensive development). This proposal includes:

A total of 79 secured rental units
A total floor space ratio (FSR) of 2.58
A total floor area of 4,557 sq.m. (49,049 sq.ft.)
A maximum height of 20.8 m (68.2 ft.)
24 vehicle parking spaces and 135 bike parking spaces
The application is being considered under the Affordable Housing Choices Interim Rezoning Policy(External link).

https://shapeyourcity.ca/1405-e-15-ave

[dleung]

^^What's the deal with all these "penthouse" setbacks with 2-more stories above? Been seeing them everywhere from the olympic village to various 6-8-storey midrises. They all look so awkward. Before 10 years ago, those set-back penthouses are usually 1-storey, the thinking being that you don't really see the extra floor from the street. Proportionally they looked better too. Did something change in zoning?

[cov]

Originally Posted by dleung

^^What's the deal with all these "penthouse" setbacks with 2-more stories above? Been seeing them everywhere from the olympic village to various 6-8-storey midrises. They all look so awkward. Before 10 years ago, those set-back penthouses are usually 1-storey, the thinking being that you don't really see the extra floor from the street. Proportionally they looked better too. Did something change in zoning?

I personally love the setback. It makes the unit a lot quieter from street traffic, and lots of people enjoy the extra balcony space. It's a clever arrangement as well because now sub-penthouse with the extra balcony are as desirable as the penthouse, and can charge accordingly.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by dleung

^^What's the deal with all these "penthouse" setbacks with 2-more stories above? Been seeing them everywhere from the olympic village to various 6-8-storey midrises. They all look so awkward. Before 10 years ago, those set-back penthouses are usually 1-storey, the thinking being that you don't really see the extra floor from the street. Proportionally they looked better too. Did something change in zoning?

No doubt our simple, unimaginative local architects are inspired by the cosmopolitan genius of buildings like Cube Lofts, 57 Brock 1151 Queen Street East and The Logan.

[whatnext]

Some South Granville infill updates.

The first one is tragic. Start with the name - "Floral Villas" sounds like somewhere you send granny for her sunset years. Then there's that sign. Do these small projects have to go through the UDP? It looks straight out of the Nineties with skim stucco and windows with negligible inset. Then there's the issue of front doors. Do I have to enter my luxurary townhouse at the side below grade, the way you entered your folk's garage?! Nice placement of the AC unit.

[IMG]IMG_9069 by whatnextyvr, on Flickr[/IMG]
[IMG]IMG_9067 by whatnextyvr, on Flickr[/IMG]
[IMG]IMG_9070 by whatnextyvr, on Flickr[/IMG]


The second one is better, albeit a tad ostentatious:
[IMG]IMG_9063 by whatnextyvr, on Flickr[/IMG]
[IMG]IMG_9072 by whatnextyvr, on Flickr[/IMG]


"Aster" is on a bigger scale:
[IMG]IMG_9073 by whatnextyvr, on Flickr[/IMG]


Coming soon. I believe that first house at Park & Granville was fairly new.
[IMG]IMG_9068 by whatnextyvr, on Flickr[/IMG]

These townhouses will replace a house I believe was infamous for breaking zoning when it was built:
[IMG]IMG_9064 by whatnextyvr, on Flickr[/IMG]

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by whatnext

I believe that first house at Park & Granville was fairly new.

IMG_9068
by whatnextyvr, on Flickr[/IMG]

yes i remember when they built that, it was about 2006. things have changed fast.

Originally Posted by whatnext

These townhouses will replace a house I believe was infamous for breaking zoning when it was built

what is the story on the one breaking zoning? i would like to know more.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

....
what is the story on the one breaking zoning? i would like to know more.

I recall the anecdote was they extended to far forward on the lot and had to cut it back, or something like that.

[scryer]

Is "luxurary" supposed to be the intentional term for the title? Me-doubts it .

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by scryer

Is "luxurary" supposed to be the intentional term for the title? Me-doubts it .

I wondered how many caught that.

[officedweller]

From Lawrence Black twitter Aug 1st:

4th & Cypress:


https://twitter.com/LawrenceBlackTV


https://twitter.com/LawrenceBlackTV

[Feathered Friend]

https://shapeyourcity.ca/2246-2268-e-broadway


https://shapeyourcity.ca/2246-2268-e-broadway


https://shapeyourcity.ca/2246-2268-e-broadway


https://shapeyourcity.ca/2246-2268-e-broadway

Urban Design Panel Stays Silent As Wedding Cake Variation Fails To Spark Joy Or Any Recommendations

2246-2268 East Broadway
Given the complexities of the estate process, and of 2020 in general, it’s hard to say whether this post will mark a return to our normal routine, but it is a sign that we’re getting closer to it. Obviously, some things will be different, as open house events are now held virtually, and even Urban Design Panel meetings can be viewed from the comfort of home. That’s great news for me, and for our loyal readers, but maybe not for Hannah.

After all, since these reviews are held every week, it means she’ll be able to fill in for me more often. Despite these changes, some things remain the same, like the fear of community backlash which guides the decisions of city staff. That was evident when they acknowledged a six floor building wouldn’t normally require this level of scrutiny, but as the Broadway Triangle is a “highly concerned neighbourhood,” it was needed to reinforce their own report to council.

https://cityduo.wordpress.com/2020/08/05...ils-to-spark-joy-or-any-recommendations/

[Migrant_Coconut]

Five-storey laneway building raises questions over who Vancouver is adding density for



(Globe and Mail)

Not for or against, just wondering if this is going to keep being a thing? It does look useful for priced-out white collars.

[officedweller]

That's a corner lot and the building to the right is a preserved heritage building on the site. Seems to me that it could have encroached onto the heritage buildig a bit for better proportions (the story also said it was not to the max density on the site, but there was a height relaxation).

[SpongeG]

Originally Posted by officedweller

From Lawrence Black twitter Aug 1st:

4th & Cypress:

https://twitter.com/LawrenceBlackTV

is there a render for whats going up?