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Old Posted Jul 15, 2020, 11:34 AM
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LRT service time to improve, but cracked wheel inspections continue

Joanne Laucius, Ottawa Citizen
Publishing date: Jul 15, 2020 • Last Updated 10 hours ago • 1 minute read


There is still no official explanation for the cracked steel wheels on LRT trains, but service time is to improve from eight minutes apart to seven starting Wednesday.

Train technicians set out earlier this month to find the “root cause” after a crack was found on a steel wheel of a train. That discovery prompted a fleet-wide inspection under a safety order, which required that all vehicles be inspected after every use.

City of Ottawa transit boss John Manconi said July 5 that three wheels on three separate Alstom LRT vehicles had evidence of defects. Alstom was to replace the defective wheels.

Meanwhile, all vehicles are still to be inspected after each use, meaning fleet availability has been squeezed to allow for the inspections and other required maintenance.

As of July 7, the city permitted Alstom, the Rideau Transit Group and its affiliate Rideau Transit Maintenance to move to a daily fleet count of seven vehicles with a “hot spare,” providing service every eight minutes.

A new routine for wheel inspections allows for eight vehicles plus a spare, which will allow for the system to operate on seven-minute service, Manconi said Tuesday in an update. That will continue through the weekend.

The city has been pressing RTG and RTM to make 15 reliable trains available to run on the Confederation line by Aug. 4. The LRT system should have a maximum of 13 trains running at once.

The cracked-wheels issue comes as RTG and RTM are in the middle of a leadership transition after the July 10 departure of chief executive officer Peter Lauch.

Lauch led both RTG and RTM, but those roles have been divided, with Nicolas Truchon taking the helm at RTG and Mario Guerra at RTM.

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-new...cm/47dcf992-fa4d-4ab0-b881-a08faca9547d/
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 23, 2020, 11:32 AM
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LRT control system crash and rail warping not normal: Manconi
The OC Transpo boss has written two different memos in the last week about latest Confederation Line issues

Kimberley Molina · CBC News
Posted: Jul 23, 2020 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: 4 hours ago


First it was door jams, followed by computer failures and frozen switches. Now it's cracked wheels, warping tracks and control console crashes.

The $2.1-billion Confederation Line has been plagued with problems since it was launched publicly less than a year ago, and the list of issues keeps growing.

The latest glitch: technical issues that affected the communications systems both in the control room — the central computer system that speaks to trains out on the track — and the back-up system in the maintenance facility.

On Tuesday, OC Transpo boss John Manconi sent a memo to members of council and the transit commission, explaining a major malfunction that occurred late last week.

Around 9:45 p.m. last Thursday, a stationary train in the maintenance storage facility "started sending numerous fault alarms" to the Confederation Line's central communications system — "literally millions of them," wrote Manconi.

"This caused the system to slow down and like your own PC, the console reached a point that they needed to be shut down and rebooted. As soon as this was identified and the train was shut down, the alarms stopped and the system was cleared."

The entire Confederation Line was shut down until about 1 a.m., replaced by the R1 bus service, until the issue was resolved.

"At no time was safety compromised, at no time did the system not perform as designed with multiple layers of safety alarms, triggers, warnings, etc.," he wrote.

Manconi said that problem is now being reviewed to ensure it doesn't happen again.

But citizen transit commissioner Sarah Wright-Gilbert said she feels more than a review is needed, considering the number of problems that keep cropping up.

Take, for example, the surprising admission by Manconi that rails warped by heat are a bigger problem than the city's transit officials first thought.

Originally, OC Transpo had said track alignment issues occur with all rail systems in hot weather, which force trains to slow down significantly. But now, Ottawa's transit boss admits that the track problems on the Confederation Line aren't normal.

"While the heat related issues are not uncommon on rail networks, the effect on Line 1 is greater than expected and RTG is required to implement a permanent fix to the track," Manconi wrote in another memo sent last Friday, in response to an inquiry from Coun. Shawn Menard.

The admission caught Wright-Gilbert by surprise.

"This is the first time that I'm hearing about it officially from OC Transpo," she said.

Then there's the four cracked wheels, for which there is still no known cause. It's an issue serious enough that the Transportation Safety Board (TSB) launched an official investigation into the problem.

Wright-Gilbert believes the agency should be looking at more than just the wheels.

"My hope is that TSB will be looking at everything, from the train to the tracks to maintenance records, everything," she said. "I really think we need that level of oversight at this point on this line to ensure customer safety and to bring a level of comfort to our customers."

She also has doubts the RTG will make a promised deadline that's fast approaching — to run 15 double-vehicle trains at the start of next month.

"There is absolutely no way that they're going to meet the August 4th deadline," she said.

"Even if they did, I'd be surprised if those 15 trains [that] actually made it out of the line, if any of them would actually remain on the line for very long."


With files from Joanne Chianello

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/lr...ems-happening-more-than-normal-1.5656606
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 28, 2020, 5:31 PM
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Good Day.

Two articles on the current sad state of affairs.

Ottawa Citizen, Brigitte Pellerin, Pellerin: Ottawa - the only city that can't run its trains outdoors
https://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/peller...cm/2491f4eb-da63-4c86-acf8-58f5ccd60314/

and

The second in a series of articles for Policy by Master’s students at the Max Bell School of Public Policy, McGill University.
Kathryn Lemieux, June 16, 2020, Fixing the Mess of Ottawa’s LRT— All Aboard for Policy that Works
https://policymagazine.ca/fixing-the-mess-of-ottawas-lrt-all-aboard-for-policy-that-works/

OUCH !
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 29, 2020, 1:21 AM
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Good Day.

Two articles on the current sad state of affairs.

Ottawa Citizen, Brigitte Pellerin, Pellerin: Ottawa - the only city that can't run its trains outdoors
https://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/peller...cm/2491f4eb-da63-4c86-acf8-58f5ccd60314/

and

The second in a series of articles for Policy by Master’s students at the Max Bell School of Public Policy, McGill University.
Kathryn Lemieux, June 16, 2020, Fixing the Mess of Ottawa’s LRT— All Aboard for Policy that Works
https://policymagazine.ca/fixing-the-mess-of-ottawas-lrt-all-aboard-for-policy-that-works/

OUCH !
Sorry but I don't think either of those articles add much to the conversation. We all know what the issues are. Bemoaning the issues in cold and heat are opinion column trope at this point.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 29, 2020, 1:47 AM
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Every so often I'll look at RTG's website and see if there's anything new or that I've missed, and well I hadn't noticed this before:

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Why don’t we see these issues on the other line in Ottawa?
The Trillium Line and the Confederation Line are two different systems and the way that they operate is different. Additionally, with any new LRT system, there is a “breaking in” phase where kinks and issues in the system are worked out and maintenance frequency is adjusted to fit the needs of the system and its environment.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 29, 2020, 1:14 PM
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Every so often I'll look at RTG's website and see if there's anything new or that I've missed, and well I hadn't noticed this before:
So they do acknowledge issues with the rail line. Not like Alstom's website that's all false propaganda.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 29, 2020, 1:29 PM
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FTFY (or more accurately RTG)

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Why don’t we see these issues on the other line in Ottawa?

The Trillium Line and the Confederation Line are two different systems and the way that they operate is different. Additionally, with any new LRT system, there is a “breaking” phase where kinks and issues in the system are worked out and R1 frequency is adjusted to supply the needs of the system and its environment.
     
     
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MEMO: O-TRAIN STAGE 1 AND STAGE 2 QUARTERLY MEMO TO COUNCIL (Q2 2020)

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Old Posted Jul 30, 2020, 9:02 PM
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The memo notes that 3 Stage 2 vehicles are now in service, but 4 of them (1136-1139) have been spotted with 1140 currently out for testing at night.

Not sure what's up with that, or where 1135 is (raided for parts?)
     
     
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Can someone tell me why only 1 platform is in use at Tunney's Pasture?
     
     
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Can someone tell me why only 1 platform is in use at Tunney's Pasture?
I assume they only use one platform until frequency warrants the opening the second?
     
     
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Work has started at Hurdman, Tunney's, Rideau and Blair on the new Happy Goat Coffee kiosks. I'm taking the line almost everyday to go to work so I'm able to follow through some of the changes on the line.
Also I was able to ride on the new Stage 2 trains 1139 and 1137 yesterday and last Friday if I'm not wrong. Both were coupled with existing Stage 1 trains (1134/1139) and (1137/112X don't remember the last digit). The trains are exactly similar to the previous ones however you can see some differences :
- The trains don't have a name (yet?)
- Much cleaner and don't smell bad (yet?)
- They have a little white ''wegde'' to protect the door mechanism when the doors open (only visible when the doors are open)

Also I noted a few differences on the ATC patterns:
- Trains are now going much faster in the Pimisi/Lyon tunnel entrance going eastbound. however the trains are now going much slower on that same portion on the westbound track, almost crawling all the way to Pimisi Station.
- Trains are now going faster on the Bayview/Pimisi section going Eastbound, speed hasn't changed on the Westbound track, however trains exit Pimisi station slower then before.
- Trains between Tunney's Pasture and Bayview going Eastbound are now slowing a bit sooner before entering Bayview. Westbound trains going to Tunney's are now marking a FULL STOP right before the platform then proceed to the platform at slow speed.
- Trains going Westbound from Hurdman to Lees are now going much faster on the ramp leading to the Rideau River bridge.
- Finally speed has been restored to almost normal between uOttawa and Lees going Eastbound however with a slightily slower speed 60kph vs 80 kph when the line opened. Trains were limited to 40 kph last winter and Spring probably due to the flat wheel problem.
     
     
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The Confederation Line now has the active vehicles (15) and spares (2) it needs to run 15 trains in operation at once. (19+ assembled and tested trains in total)

But of course, with the ongoing wheel crack shenanigans only 13 trains can be put into service with 2 hot spares.

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Work has started at Hurdman, Tunney's, Rideau and Blair on the new Happy Goat Coffee kiosks. I'm taking the line almost everyday to go to work so I'm able to follow through some of the changes on the line.
Also I was able to ride on the new Stage 2 trains 1139 and 1137 yesterday and last Friday if I'm not wrong. Both were coupled with existing Stage 1 trains (1134/1139) and (1137/112X don't remember the last digit). The trains are exactly similar to the previous ones however you can see some differences :
- The trains don't have a name (yet?)
- Much cleaner and don't smell bad (yet?)
- They have a little white ''wegde'' to protect the door mechanism when the doors open (only visible when the doors are open)

Also I noted a few differences on the ATC patterns:
- Trains are now going much faster in the Pimisi/Lyon tunnel entrance going eastbound. however the trains are now going much slower on that same portion on the westbound track, almost crawling all the way to Pimisi Station.
- Trains are now going faster on the Bayview/Pimisi section going Eastbound, speed hasn't changed on the Westbound track, however trains exit Pimisi station slower then before.
- Trains between Tunney's Pasture and Bayview going Eastbound are now slowing a bit sooner before entering Bayview. Westbound trains going to Tunney's are now marking a FULL STOP right before the platform then proceed to the platform at slow speed.
- Trains going Westbound from Hurdman to Lees are now going much faster on the ramp leading to the Rideau River bridge.
- Finally speed has been restored to almost normal between uOttawa and Lees going Eastbound however with a slightily slower speed 60kph vs 80 kph when the line opened. Trains were limited to 40 kph last winter and Spring probably due to the flat wheel problem.
The other change is the addition of stickers labeling the door switch next to the outside of each door.

Almost a full stop also happens at Blair, but only on Track 1. It's a known software bug.
     
     
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Uhhhhh, I assume this is out of date.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 4, 2020, 10:18 PM
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RTG two trains short by city's deadline because of mandatory wheel inspections

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Publishing date: Aug 04, 2020 • Last Updated 2 hours ago • 2 minute read


The Rideau Transit Group could only get 13 double-car trains on the Confederation Line at one time on Tuesday, not the 15 trains directed by the city.

However, the city acknowledges that all trains must go through a rigorous wheel inspection regime, which is why two trains can’t be on the line for peak-period service.

As part of a notice of contract default issued to RTG in March, the city ordered the rail contractor to have 15 trains available for the busiest times, plus a ready-to-deploy spare and a maintenance spare, by Aug. 4.

On Tuesday, city transportation general manager John Manconi told council in a memo that RTG met the 15-train requirement, but because the train wheels are going through enhanced inspections, only 13 trains (with two spares in the depot) can be put into service at peak times.

It means trains will arrive at stations every four minutes.

The mandatory inspections came after cracks on four steel wheels were discovered, leading to an investigation started by the Transportation Safety Board on July 10. The number of trains on the line was dramatically reduced in July.

The lower ridership has provided relief to RTG and the city as they work through the new inspection regime.

The root cause of the cracked wheels is under review.

“RTG is making progress with the investigation and resolution of the wheel issue and as they make further progress, additional vehicles may be added to the morning peak service if required,” Manconi’s memo said.

The city paid for 34 Alstom Citadis Spirit cars for Stage 1 LRT. The original plan was to have 15 double-car trains running at the busiest times with two spares. Before the pandemic, the city felt it needed only 13 double-car trains to provide peak service requirements, although there was optimism that RTG could get the other trains on the line to provide more capacity on a busy LRT system.

RTG is also providing 38 of the Alstom cars as part of the Stage 2 LRT expansion. As the Stage 2 trains are assembled and commissioned, they can be added to the Stage 1 fleet to bolster daily operations.

Manconi told council that 13 double-car trains can handle the current passenger volumes and they can allow the physical distancing between passengers required to reduce the risk of transmitting COVID-19.

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Old Posted Aug 5, 2020, 8:32 PM
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Almost a full stop also happens at Blair, but only on Track 1. It's a known software bug.
Didn't they just upgrade the train control software? Is this a new bug?
     
     
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Didn't they just upgrade the train control software? Is this a new bug?
That's what I was thinking, I can't recall the full-stop before Tunney's/Blair ever being a thing before. But I did notice it the other day as I was at Tunney's waiting for a train to arrive.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 6, 2020, 2:41 AM
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The city need's to bite the bullet and buy a few more trains. Give RTG the funding to buy more trains and tell them to maintain them from their budget. 80 trains for Stage 1 and 2 would boost service reliability.
     
     
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