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Old Posted Jul 28, 2020, 6:05 AM
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I personally think they should do something like MNP Tower and have the new building relate in some geometric form with the towers. Is it worth the effort in the end to just house RBC at dirt cheap rent? Probably not.
jollyburger mentioned one of my favorite buildings. If I were given the choice of two downtown properties I could own, it would be the MNP Tower and right next to it The Marine Building with its incredible art deco work.
I could admirer each one from inside of each one
(Steve Silva captured some great 4K video The Marine Building)

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jollyburger mentioned one of my favorite buildings. If I were given the choice of two downtown properties I could own, it would be the MNP Tower and right next to it The Marine Building with its incredible art deco work.
I could admirer each one from inside of each one
I can give you some good news, although it won't quite work for getting inside. You do own both the Marine Building, and MNP Tower, as the Oxford Properties ownership of the estate (along with the Guinness Tower and Oceanic Plaza) is shared with the CPP Investment Board, so everybody with a Canadian Pension owns a tiny share.
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Old Posted Jul 29, 2020, 2:48 PM
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I noticed the renovations seem to have begun at 1770 Davie. They have demolished some ground level stuff. I think there used to be some parking on a second level.

Here are some links to a news article and some previous posts about this building:

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news...west-end-rental-building-berkeley-towers

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7479099#post7479099

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8434160#post8434160

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8565830#post8565830

July 26 '20, my pics
Thanks for the update!

Does anyone have seen some renders of what this revamp will look like?
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 29, 2020, 5:06 PM
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They can't do too much, but I think where that blue fence is last I heard there was supposed to be more commercial space?
     
     
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They can't do too much, but I think where that blue fence is last I heard there was supposed to be more commercial space?
Looks like a single commercial unit facing Davie.

     
     
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Old Posted Jul 29, 2020, 7:59 PM
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BTW, that Development Application sign you see on the 1770 Davie building is just for that particular retail space.



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Old Posted Jul 29, 2020, 8:31 PM
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BTW, that Development Application sign you see on the 1770 Davie building is just for that particular retail space.
Yeah the one you posted is for a new marijuana shop in the existing retail unit.
     
     
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I'm daft today. I can't find a better thread to post this:

https://www.urbanyvr.com/plaza-of-nations-redevelopment/

An incredibly retro massing for this proposal. The early 70s must be in vogue again!
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Old Posted Jul 30, 2020, 11:24 PM
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I'm daft today. I can't find a better thread to post this:

https://www.urbanyvr.com/plaza-of-nations-redevelopment/

An incredibly retro massing for this proposal. The early 70s must be in vogue again!
There's a thread over here

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=200271&page=5
     
     
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I'm daft today. I can't find a better thread to post this:

https://www.urbanyvr.com/plaza-of-nations-redevelopment/

An incredibly retro massing for this proposal. The early 70s must be in vogue again!


Maybe it's this thread:

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8830596#post8830596
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 30, 2020, 11:25 PM
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Old Posted Jul 31, 2020, 12:27 AM
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I must not have gotten enough sleep - James Cheng and co. appear to have created something interesting.
     
     
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Way too greedy for the site. Waterfront buildings should be small and porous to allow through access from the city instead forming a wall of superblock megastructures. It's already a tragedy that Parq Vancouver wasn't mid-rise and did a lot of the damage of concealing BC place. Look at Coruscant... do they stick towers right up against the Galactic Senate and carve out a little viewing hole to see a bit of it?

This is just sad:
     
     
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It is funny how sacred the views are for the mountains, to the point where they trump allowing proper tower heights around major existing and soon to be transit hubs, but outside of City Hall there is no care for preserving views of major landmark buildings. Hell, they even allow them to be torn down
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Old Posted Jul 31, 2020, 3:19 AM
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Based on anecdotes from planners at the open houses, there was an unofficial plan to cover up BC Place with high rises because everybody thought the old roof was ugly.

Flash-forward to '09 when the new roof comes in, suddenly everybody likes the stadium... but now there's new projects like PARC on the way that're based on the old "cover-up" plan. Such is life.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 31, 2020, 6:08 AM
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Look at Coruscant... do they stick towers right up against the Galactic Senate and carve out a little viewing hole to see a bit of it?
i had to google this, are you really referencing a Star Wars city as a comparison...?
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 31, 2020, 7:39 AM
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It is funny how sacred the views are for the mountains, to the point where they trump allowing proper tower heights around major existing and soon to be transit hubs, but outside of City Hall there is no care for preserving views of major landmark buildings. Hell, they even allow them to be torn down
Ever since I moved here decades ago, I have never been happy with the bias in favour of outward views, to mountains and ocean, to the near exclusion of how the city looks inward to itself. The worst part is that this subjective 'preference' has interfered with our city's planning of urban public space. Progress is slow, but perhaps coming. Coal harbour to the convention centre and most of false creek, English Bay and Stanley Park are all of the old order (and there is nothing wrong with that). Granville Street downtown, the new Art Gallery/Robson Street squares, Emery Barnes Park, Hinge Park/Olympic Village Square - all are moving us in a good direction.

Hopefully, the city's old bias for nature over itself is becoming more balanced as it matures. The increasing concentration of our built environment makes true urban spaces increasingly necessary. We, of course, need both. The North Vancouver and New Westminster waterfronts are both well designed, and while they are obviously outward looking linear strips, they also have a stronger character unto themselves. You can see a progression from Stanley Park and Sunset Beach strips, to False Creek's Seawall, to Olympic Village & Coal Harbour, to the North Vancouver waterfront. Each becoming more complex, active and balanced between inward and outward focus.

Who knows where this project fits.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 31, 2020, 8:54 AM
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i had to google this, are you really referencing a Star Wars city as a comparison...?
Technically it's a planet, entirely covered by a city. One that conveniently ignores socio-political-economics for the sole purpose of being nice to look at from a certain angle.
     
     
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