AUSTIN | Economic Development - Page 35

freerover · #**681** Posted **Jul 17, 2020, 11:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by We vs us

I mean, look at that thing. Does it actually look like a warehouse? Those floors look . . . kinda normal. They're not supersized or tall, not a lot of room for stacking. It really looks like an office building.

Surprise, we won HQ2.

We vs us · #**682** Posted **Jul 17, 2020, 11:36 PM**

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Surprise, we won HQ2.

Project #Winning!

mostly_afk · #**683** Posted **Jul 18, 2020, 5:07 AM**

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Originally Posted by We vs us

I mean, look at that thing. Does it actually look like a warehouse? Those floors look . . . kinda normal. They're not supersized or tall, not a lot of room for stacking. It really looks like an office building.

i thought the numbers were curious too. So I went back to the zoning documents, and this is how the building breaks down.

office: 43,000 sf
warehouse: 780,522 sf
robotics mezzanine: 3,018,345

There were different parking requirements for the mezzanine levels. The multi level warehouse is looking like a new trend. There was a WSJ article last year where Amazon leased a 3 story warehouse in Seattle. These warehouses are trying to reduce the delivery time.

There was identical new Amazon warehouse announced for Little Rock. Here is a link to a 2.5 million sf warehouse in Colorado, complete with photos.

https://www.denverpost.com/2019/03/20/amazon-fulfillment-center-thornton-jobs/

Maximusx1 · #**684** Posted **Jul 18, 2020, 5:14 AM**

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Amazon warehouses of the future:

Bezos skipping a couple steps. Already has the right haircut.

We vs us · #**685** Posted **Jul 18, 2020, 5:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by mostly_afk

i thought the numbers were curious too. So I went back to the zoning documents, and this is how the building breaks down.

office: 43,000 sf
warehouse: 780,522 sf
robotics mezzanine: 3,018,345

There were different parking requirements for the mezzanine levels. The multi level warehouse is looking like a new trend. There was a WSJ article last year where Amazon leased a 3 story warehouse in Seattle. These warehouses are trying to reduce the delivery time.

There was identical new Amazon warehouse announced for Little Rock. Here is a link to a 2.5 million sf warehouse in Colorado, complete with photos.

https://www.denverpost.com/2019/03/20/amazon-fulfillment-center-thornton-jobs/

Nice digging. "Robotics Mezzanine" can really only be the place they store these:

undergroundman · #**686** Posted **Jul 18, 2020, 7:08 PM**

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Nice digging. "Robotics Mezzanine" can really only be the place they store these:

Yea we laugh about it now but five generations from now that may become reality. As AI gets smarter and robotics become more commonplace, there will be less and less need for human labor. Once they develop an AI framework that is capable of programming itself, not only will blue collar jobs be gone, but so will white collar jobs, i.e. accountants, software developers, doctors, etc. All that will be left are the one percenters and their offspring. With no way of making a living, the others either succumb to the principles of Darwinism or have to pull double 8-hour shifts as a bio-battery to make a living wage. Either way, the world may soon reach peak population and will eventually dwindle back down to the 1%ers as technology advances. Good news is that celebrity entertainers, psychiatrists and divorce attorneys will likely still be in abundance.

deerhoof · #**687** Posted **Jul 22, 2020, 8:35 PM**

Tesla confirms they selected their next US gigafactory site. Doesn't say where, but hopefully will tell everyone during the earnings call this afternoon.

Per their investor letter: "Next US Gigafactory site selected; preparations underway"

freerover · #**688** Posted **Jul 22, 2020, 9:33 PM**

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Tesla confirms they selected their next US gigafactory site. Doesn't say where, but hopefully will tell everyone during the earnings call this afternoon.

Per their investor letter: "Next US Gigafactory site selected; preparations underway"

What time in the call?

deerhoof · #**689** Posted **Jul 22, 2020, 9:35 PM**

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What time in the call?

4:30. Elon just confirmed it's Austin. Said work at the site has already begun as of last weekend apparently.

edit - here's an article:

Tesla will build Cybertruck factory in Austin, Texas
‘It’s going to basically be an ecological paradise,’ Elon Musk says
https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/22/21334860/tesla-cybertruck-factory-austin-texas-location-model-y

eguidry · #**690** Posted **Jul 22, 2020, 9:37 PM**

Now and Elon just confirmed the Austin Green site was selected for Texas gigafactory. More details coming soon based on what he's saying in the call listen here https://ir.tesla.com/events-and-presentations

freerover · #**691** Posted **Jul 22, 2020, 9:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by deerhoof

4:30. Elon just confirmed it's Austin. Said work at the site has already begun as of last weekend apparently.

That makes sense. Under the existing mining permit they can begun remediation at any time without needing to get a permit. The property will need a lot of patching up.

the Genral · #**692** Posted **Jul 22, 2020, 10:26 PM**

Well...I guess congrats are in order. Now if someone could please help me understand what he meant by "Ecological Paradise" please. I don't understand how that superlative matches the occasion or the future of that site. One thing to note, no matter where Elon is, (he said it was ok if I refer to him by his first name) he will only be a few minutes from his private jet to the gigafactory as will any of his dignitaries he invites. Far closer than any of the rumored sites along Hwy 79. I also would like to mention that those "trucks" he will be building there don't actually look like trucks to me. If you end up getting one, you still may have to rent a real truck to get those washers and dryers home.

JoninATX · #**693** Posted **Jul 22, 2020, 10:50 PM**

Yay! Now I can say its official.

enragedcamel · #**694** Posted **Jul 22, 2020, 10:57 PM**

The starting pay will apparently be $35,000, including benefits.

That is insultingly low.

urbancore · #**695** Posted **Jul 22, 2020, 11:04 PM**

Well, this is not quite the rumor I heard in Jan. Same company, but it was told to me as a much bigger deal.

All I heard was it was Tesla and way more jobs than the new Apple building. I falsely assumed it was an HQ type situation.

I’m pumped and I welcome Tesla. Now let’s move the HQ to Austin.

freerover · #**696** Posted **Jul 22, 2020, 11:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by urbancore

Well, this is not quite the rumor I heard in Jan. Same company, but it was told to me as a much bigger deal.

All I heard was it was Tesla and way more jobs than the new Apple building. I falsely assumed it was an HQ type situation.

I’m pumped and I welcome Tesla. Now let’s move the HQ to Austin.

They certainly have the room to build a HQ out there in addition to the factory.

LoneStarMike · #**697** Posted **Jul 22, 2020, 11:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by the Genral

Now if someone could please help me understand what he meant by "Ecological Paradise" please. I don't understand how that superlative matches the occasion or the future of that site.

From the Austin American Statesman

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“The location is five minutes from (Austin-Bergstrom International Airport) and 15 minutes from downtown Austin,” Musk said, speaking on a conference call with Wall Street analysts following the company’s second-quarter earnings release.

“We are going to make it a factory that is going to be stunning,” he said. “It is right on the Colorado River. So we are actually going to have a boardwalk where there will be a hike and biking trail. It is basically going to be an ecological paradise — birds in the trees, butterflies, fish in the stream. And it will be open to the public as well, so not closed and only open to Tesla.”

clubtokyo · #**698** Posted **Jul 22, 2020, 11:19 PM**

The way that he is wanting to build it as a "paradise" indicates to me that it could be much more than just a factory in the future, possibly HQ as well. IMO.

undergroundman · #**699** Posted **Jul 22, 2020, 11:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by enragedcamel

The starting pay will apparently be $35,000, including benefits.

That is insultingly low.

Is it?? These are jobs for high school grads with no college degree. Considering the average salary for a recent college grad is $50k, I personally think $35k for a high a school diploma is fair. From a pute numbers standpoint, a college grad would have spent about $20k/year in expenses and tuition, about $80k after 4 years. So for a high school grad not to have to put up the time and money for college, I think $35k is fair.

Also in addition to a salary, they also get benefits and stock options. That's much better than the opportunities available to them now working in, say, the retail or hospitality industry in Austin.

We vs us · #**700** Posted **Jul 22, 2020, 11:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by clubtokyo

The way that he is wanting to build it as a "paradise" indicates to me that it could be much more than just a factory in the future, possibly HQ as well. IMO.

Yes, agreed. Whatever he’s describing, it’s not just a factory to make cars and trucks.