General Update/Rumour thread [Urban Ottawa] - Page 305

Multi-modal · #**6081** Posted **Jun 3, 2020, 2:27 AM**

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Originally Posted by bradnixon

I'm very skeptical that any other road would be narrowed if the Alta Vista corridor was built. Building this road will cause a significant amount of disruption including forcing the relocation of the community gardens in Alta Vista.

I'd like to see investment to complete the cycling infrastructure along Heron, Bank and St-Laurent before adding more vehicle capacity.

I get your distrust that such a vehicle capacity "trade-off" would really be implemented by the City. That's why I said "if I was in charge". I'm pretty sure the City as-a-whole isn't progressive enough to proposed a packaged project where a new road is added only on the condition of removing equivalent capacity elsewhere.

I wish they were though... because completing the cycling infrastructure (and transit infrastructure) along Heron, Bank, and St-Laurent is going to be very expensive (expropriation, reconstruction of retaining walls, etc...) if we can't repurpose vehicle lanes.

lrt's friend · #**6082** Posted **Jun 5, 2020, 10:18 PM**

I was surprised by the hundreds marching on Earl Armstrong Road this afternoon in Riverside South. It started at the Riverview Park n Ride and was heading east. This was just before 3 p.m.

Harley613 · #**6083** Posted **Jun 7, 2020, 1:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by bradnixon

I'm very skeptical that any other road would be narrowed if the Alta Vista corridor was built. Building this road will cause a significant amount of disruption including forcing the relocation of the community gardens in Alta Vista.

I'd like to see investment to complete the cycling infrastructure along Heron, Bank and St-Laurent before adding more vehicle capacity.

Ahhh yes, the age old 'forcing relocation of the community gardens' ploy. Building a parkway through that space would be cause for a slight realignment of the gardens, but there is AMPLE space for them and a parkway to co-exist, heck there's even enough space left over to grow them significantly. What 'significant' disruption can you think of aside from having to move a few garden plots a few metres?

Acajack · #**6084** Posted **Jun 7, 2020, 3:45 AM**

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Originally Posted by lrt's friend

I was surprised by the hundreds marching on Earl Armstrong Road this afternoon in Riverside South. It started at the Riverview Park n Ride and was heading east. This was just before 3 p.m.

This was a BLM march?

J.OT13 · #**6085** Posted **Jun 10, 2020, 1:06 PM**

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Jon Willing
@JonathanWilling

The end to another piece of Nepean history. The big, green-and-white Sportsplex entry sign, with the iconic Nepean bell, is at the end of its life, to be replaced by a City of Ottawa electronic message sign that will retain the wedgy-looking frame.

8:18 PM · Jun 9, 2020·TweetDeck

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Grumpy In General
@GrumpyInGeneral·12h

You mean the "Bell Nepean stole from Westboro", I believe...

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johnefrancisFlag of Canada
@johnefrancis·12h

you mean the bell Barrhaven stole from Nepean, I believe...

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Scott Moffatt
@ScottMoffatt21·12h

You mean the Nepean that Ottawa stole from Nepean in 1950 and then, for good measure, stole the rest in 2001?

I think I’m doing this wrong.

https://twitter.com/JonathanWilling/status/1270510559419674625

J.OT13 · #**6086** Posted **Jun 10, 2020, 1:53 PM**

Update from Egli:

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Keith Egli
@KeithEgli

The sign is being replaced for lifecycle reasons as it is at risk of structural failure.
There will be no 3rd party ads but for events related to the Splex such as craft fairs.
The bell portion of the sign will be going to the Nepean Museum.

8:36 AM · Jun 10, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

TransitZilla · #**6087** Posted **Jun 10, 2020, 2:08 PM**

I might be in the minority, but I won't be sad to see it go. That thing is fugly.

Abe Simpson · #**6088** Posted **Jun 10, 2020, 2:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by bradnixon

I might be in the minority, but I won't be sad to see it go. That thing is fugly.

I'm with you, not sad to see it go! That sign was indeed fugly.

passwordisnt123 · #**6089** Posted **Jun 11, 2020, 1:57 AM**

Perhaps somewhat off topic, but I just stumbled across this on the Toronto subreddit and Ottawa desperately needs something like this given our penchant for plaque and monument proliferation.

J.OT13 · #**6090** Posted **Jun 11, 2020, 3:03 PM**

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Mathieu Fleury
@MathieuFleury

@ottawacity is proposing closure of York, William, ByWard and Clarence streets for this period.

https://twitter.com/MathieuFleury/status/1271048457940357121

kwoldtimer · #**6091** Posted **Jun 11, 2020, 3:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

https://twitter.com/MathieuFleury/status/1271048457940357121

Access to the parking garages to be maintained, I assume?

RogueNacho · #**6092** Posted **Jun 11, 2020, 5:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

https://twitter.com/MathieuFleury/status/1271048457940357121

Yesssss!! It's like dipping a pinky toe into my ultimate dream of permanently closing these streets, plus George Street, and converting all of them into full pedestrian areas with all kinds of trees, planters, furniture, and lighting (with access for night time deliveries only). Following this, I'd rip down the parking garage at Clarence & William and convert it into a massive open plaza (maybe with a nice fountain?) to be used for hosting all sorts of public events (markets, buskers, skating rink, "movies in the square", music, etc.). Look at what Kingston did to its market square to get an idea!

It infuriates me that the City allows so much car traffic though what is essentially the number one tourist/pedestrian destination in town, especially with a mass transit line right underneath it!

Hopefully this temporary closure of roads warms people up to the idea of fully pedestrianizing the Market for good!

phil235 · #**6093** Posted **Jun 11, 2020, 6:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by RogueNacho

Yesssss!! It's like dipping a pinky toe into my ultimate dream of permanently closing these streets, plus George Street, and converting all of them into full pedestrian areas with all kinds of trees, planters, furniture, and lighting (with access for night time deliveries only). Following this, I'd rip down the parking garage at Clarence & William and convert it into a massive open plaza (maybe with a nice fountain?) to be used for hosting all sorts of public events (markets, buskers, skating rink, "movies in the square", music, etc.). Look at what Kingston did to its market square to get an idea!

It infuriates me that the City allows so much car traffic though what is essentially the number one tourist/pedestrian destination in town, especially with a mass transit line right underneath it!

Hopefully this temporary closure of roads warms people up to the idea of fully pedestrianizing the Market for good!

Unfortunately they're doing this at a time when pedestrian counts are at an all time low, so it won't be very good for assessing the impact on businesses. I assume the primary goal is to allow restaurants to have big patios on the street, which is a good goal.

FutureWickedCity · #**6094** Posted **Jun 16, 2020, 1:42 PM**

On Radio-Canada this morning they were discussing an application to demolish a heritage building on the corner of Eddy and Wright in Old Hull, in order to construct a 12-storey building.

J.OT13 · #**6095** Posted **Jun 16, 2020, 1:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by FutureWickedCity

On Radio-Canada this morning they were discussing an application to demolish a heritage building on the corner of Eddy and Wright in Old Hull, in order to construct a 12-storey building.

This one?

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Rue+Ed...ac7d0f4d6014!8m2!3d45.42696!4d-75.719951

or this one?

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Rue+Ed...ac7d0f4d6014!8m2!3d45.42696!4d-75.719951

You want to demolish something, demolish one of these two:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Rue+Ed...ac7d0f4d6014!8m2!3d45.42696!4d-75.719951

Acajack · #**6096** Posted **Jun 16, 2020, 2:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

This one?

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Rue+Ed...ac7d0f4d6014!8m2!3d45.42696!4d-75.719951

or this one?

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Rue+Ed...ac7d0f4d6014!8m2!3d45.42696!4d-75.719951

You want to demolish something, demolish one of these two:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Rue+Ed...ac7d0f4d6014!8m2!3d45.42696!4d-75.719951

The second one, with the iron balcony railing.

harls · #**6097** Posted **Jun 17, 2020, 4:22 AM**

THIS needs to go.

https://goo.gl/maps/X2TovX6U545QMNWi8

Looks like something that would fit in Shawville (no offense to any Shawvillians.)

kwoldtimer · #**6098** Posted **Jun 17, 2020, 12:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by harls

THIS needs to go.

https://goo.gl/maps/X2TovX6U545QMNWi8

Looks like something that would fit in Shawville (no offense to any Shawvillians.)

What is it?

J.OT13 · #**6099** Posted **Jun 17, 2020, 12:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

The second one, with the iron balcony railing.

So many parking lots and crappy buildings but they have to demolish heritage brick buildings.

At this point, it's the only heritage building left on that lot, and it would be difficult to retain it in a respectful way I guess.

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Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

What is it?

Ironically, Canadian Heritage. See sign on the Wellington façade.

Acajack · #**6100** Posted **Jun 17, 2020, 3:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

So many parking lots and crappy buildings but they have to demolish heritage brick buildings.

At this point, it's the only heritage building left on that lot, and it would be difficult to retain it in a respectful way I guess.
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It's in the way of Groupe Heafey (I think it's them)'s land assembly for another phase of the W/E development push.

The W/E 2 will be built on that block I think.