The not so Great Racism in Canada Thread

[lio45]

Originally Posted by Acajack

LOL

Still not sure whether rousseau did it on purpose or not, but it seems obvious to me that this expression is super un-PC according to the pure... the idea that women are cowardly and indecisive as a group (unlike men, clearly) is horribly sexist, right? Seems to me it would be in the same general category as pointing out a Voldemort-rigged electrical setup, at first sight: expressions that totally help propagate and reinforce old stereotypes against some groups.

BTW my opinion on this whole issue (what to do with old colorful expressions that have been used for centuries) is not fully black or white at this time.

[Andy6]

Originally Posted by rousseau

I can see how one could characterize it as a pendulum swing in one narrow respect, but clearly it's far more menacing then that.

Also, the pendulum swung half a century ago or more, since which time there have been considerable consequences for the public expression of racist views, even at the level of tasteless jokes or stupid slips of the tongue. Ask Earl Butz or Jimmy the Greek about that.

[Dr Awesomesauce]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Got anything to back that up? Don't trust fox news...

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-new...s-protests-capitol-hill-autonomous-zone/

'I think it’s disgraceful propaganda and terribly misrepresentative of documentary journalism in times like this, when truth-telling and accountability is so important,” said Kenny Irby, a photojournalism ethics educator and consultant.'

Truth and accountability? Wow, we have finally, once and for all, descended into Bizarro World.

Here are the demands of the fine, upstanding folk from the People's Republic of CHAZ: https://medium.com/@seattleblmanon3/the-...o-the-government-of-seattle-ddaee51d3e47

Number 7 is my favourite.

[Dr Awesomesauce]

Originally Posted by 905er

the recent events in the US have really enlightened me to something that i had taken so for granted.. the whole concept of white privlege was a wash with me... never have I ever felt so aware of the fact that its a thing.. it exists and I have benefited from it. I am glad discussions of racism are happening even here on this forum and what is happenening in the US definitely forces us to look inwardly at ourselves and recognize that there is systematic racism in our own backyard... both with the black community and indigenous communities as well as all other visible minorities across Canada.

I have never been more ashamed to be white, than I am now and not because there is anything wrong with being white, but because my whiteness and the bubble in which I live in has caused me to inadvertently turn a blind eye to the wrongs so many across Canada experience on a daily basis. Moreover, as a gay white male, I should know better as someone from a group that have also historically experienced so much discrimination. So from here on out, i vow to do better.. be more aware and I don't think I can ever go back to being silent in the face of witnessing any social injustice.

So while we're all united here in the sense that we are all fans of skyscrapers and city scapes lets also remind ourselves of everything else that brings us together as opposed to singling out what sets us apart.

Originally Posted by Dr Awesomesauce

Your shame is well-earned. Believe me. And you need to make things right asap. Here's some advice: Head down to Ohsweken and find a Mohawk family; offer to swap lives with them ie homes, jobs, vehicles, etc.

You need to surrender your White Privilege to those more deserving. It's the right thing to do. That is unless this is all just lip service, in which case just keep living your life.

Well, that didn't take long...

Protester in Seattle's CHAZ demands white demonstrators give out cash
https://nypost.com/2020/06/13/protester-in-seattles-chaz-demands-white-people-give-out-cash/

[lio45]

Their Number 7 is disgustingly racist. And profoundly ridiculous.

If I commit a crime in Vancouver today, can I refuse to be judged unless it's by a jury where every single member is a male who's half-Provençal, half-Gaspésie-Acadien and in their late 30s? Anyone else couldn't possibly identify correctly enough with me to judge/understand me.

Also, if you don't mind, can I just be loose on bail while you guys work on assembling this jury...?

[urbandreamer]

All of this nonsense will probably just lead to more segregation, violence and possibly civil war. Maybe give the PoC their own state to run: North Dakota?

[lio45]

#11 is nonsense as well. If society can take away your freedom in a manner everyone else supports, which it can, then it logically can also remove your right to vote.

If we collectively have deemed you not even okay to be let loose out there, why the — would we desire your input when it's time to choose the next government? We don't even trust you enough to merely let you outside unsupervised!

They have a couple points in there that are okay though. If WA State has decriminalized weed, which I think it has, then it would make sense to review previous weed-related convictions.

[someone123]

I wonder what outcome they want for George Floyd's killers if they wish to abolish prison. I guess guillotine would be consistent with their attitude.

How would you decide who is or isn't a person of colour, who gets a new trial or not?

[Dr Awesomesauce]

Originally Posted by someone123

I wonder what outcome they want for George Floyd's killers if they wish to abolish prison. I guess guillotine would be consistent with their attitude.

How would you decide who is or isn't a person of colour, who gets a new trial or not?

You already know the answer: everyone's guilty, everyone ends up dead. Soviet war heroes were sent off to the Gulags after all. Doing proper due diligence is hard work...

[lio45]

My God, these people are truly among the most racist I've ever seen!

Related to economic demands, we also have demands pertaining to what we would formally call “Health and Human Services.”

We demand the hospitals and care facilities of Seattle employ black doctors and nurses specifically to help care for black patients.

We demand the people of Seattle seek out and proudly support Black-owned businesses. Your money is our power and sustainability.

I'm scrolling down their list of demands and I'm fully expecting to see "We demand the City immediately introduces separate drinking fountains for black Seattle residents!"

[urbandreamer]

Do all these kids still use Blackberries? Apples are red, Androids are green ....

[niwell]

Man SSP has really turned to —. Most of y'all deserve to be up against the wall. No wonder most of my favourite posters, and people I talk to offline don't bother with the cesspool anymore.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by niwell

Man SSP has really turned to —. Most of y'all deserve to be up against the wall. No wonder most of my favourite posters, and people I talk to offline don't bother with the cesspool anymore.

I'd be more interested in hearing what you have to say about the topic at hand, including the demands of the CHAZ people in Seattle.

[niwell]

Originally Posted by Acajack

I'd be more interested in hearing what you have to say about the topic at hand, including the demands of the CHAZ people in Seattle.

I'd happily talk to you over a beer but this thread is beyond pointless and a — for people who want to feel good about themselves. So why bother? Pretty much done with SSP at this point and will probably just stick to development threads. If you guys don't see how isolating this has become it's on all of you.

[Dr Awesomesauce]

Originally Posted by niwell

Man SSP has really turned to —. Most of y'all deserve to be up against the wall. No wonder most of my favourite posters, and people I talk to offline don't bother with the cesspool anymore.

Care to elaborate on this, comrade?

[niwell]

Originally Posted by Dr Awesomesauce

Care to elaborate on this, comrade?

Hey man, if we can defend violence with flowery words why not just go out and say it, you know? What's the — difference?

[Dr Awesomesauce]

Originally Posted by niwell

Hey man, if we can defend violence with flowery words why not just go out and say it, you know? What's the — difference?

It seems you need a time out, young man.

[niwell]

Originally Posted by Dr Awesomesauce

It seems you need a time out, young man.

You've needed one for some time but nobody cares. And I'm not that young either.

[lio45]

Originally Posted by Acajack

I'd be more interested in hearing what you have to say about the topic at hand, including the demands of the CHAZ people in Seattle.

Exact same reaction here.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by rousseau

"Fashion show"? What on earth are you talking about?


I don't know who you're referring to. I'm talking about the current phenomenon of SJW mobs destroying people's livelihoods for running afoul of their ideology. What are you talking about?

Mulroney, that's who this original question was about.