Olympic Village & Southeast False Creek Updates Discussion

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by kaitoe

Doesn’t look like it — just an amenity room and more townhomes https://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applications/1768cook/documents/Level1FloorPlan.pdf

Confirmed, it's a lobby and gym. (shrug) Oh well.

[officedweller]

That's too bad.

Looking at than plan, there's a "Penthouse Lobby" that just uses one of the 3 regular elevators.
Is that the only elevator that goes to the penthouse floor?
If so, the wait might be longer, won't it (1 of 3)?
Unless it is prioritized for that lobby's call button?

[officedweller]

Avenue One

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[Feathered Friend]

My photos - May 30th, 2020

Given the brief time they occupy Vancouver’s skyline, it feels a little magical every time we see a crane taken down. Darren captured the final moments of this one at the Olympic Village’s W2 building as I drove us to the Valley last weekend to handle his father’s estate.

https://twitter.com/City_Duo/status/1270084375460188160?s=20

[officedweller]

Good timing!

[Klazu]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Oh wow. I hadn't realize that there is another temporary crime hive next to Avenue One. Olympic Village is surely getting its share of vulnerable people down on their luck. I wonder what people that bought in this building are thinking about it after having spent their savings on an over-priced condo...

The building itself is turning nice so at least there is that.

[officedweller]

The brown building behind the crane is the Maurgeurite Ford social housing building.
Apparently that is a big problem for the neighbourhood and has been there for quite a few years, so the purchasers should have had notice...

From 2014:
Marguerite Ford Apartments produced 729 police calls in initial 16 months of operation
https://cityhallwatch.wordpress.com/2014/09/27/marguerite-ford-729-calls/

and 2015:
Police calls reveal growing pains persist at Vancouver supportive-housing projects
https://www.straight.com/news/495531/pol...st-vancouver-supportive-housing-projects

[s211]

Originally Posted by officedweller

The brown building behind the crane is the Maurgeurite Ford social housing building.
Apparently that is a big problem for the neighbourhood and has been there for quite a few years, so the purchasers should have had notice...

I walked past there a couple of weeks ago, only to watch a passerby woman get harassed by several people associated with that building. Safe streets, my fanny.

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by Klazu

Oh wow. I hadn't realize that there is another temporary crime hive next to Avenue One. Olympic Village is surely getting its share of vulnerable people down on their luck. I wonder what people that bought in this building are thinking about it after having spent their savings on an over-priced condo...

The building itself is turning nice so at least there is that.

It's in the plan that this area is to house a diverse population of the city (and it will feature more in the future), not just those that can affords to live at Avenue One. I think they'll be fine as well since a social housing tower is already across the street.

When working on an project in the area, I recall Olympic Village has the highest concentration of higher incomes, rents, and lowest vacancies in the Broadway Plan area west of I think Burrard or Granville.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Klazu

Oh wow. I hadn't realize that there is another temporary crime hive next to Avenue One. Olympic Village is surely getting its share of vulnerable people down on their luck. I wonder what people that bought in this building are thinking about it after having spent their savings on an over-priced condo...

The building itself is turning nice so at least there is that.

When did you turn into such a poor-hating asshole?

I live in the area, and the modular home structure has had zero impact on crime (not that it was great before). I do see less people sleeping in the park though.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by officedweller

The brown building behind the crane is the Maurgeurite Ford social housing building.
Apparently that is a big problem for the neighbourhood and has been there for quite a few years, so the purchasers should have had notice...

I have heard some bad stories about that place as well, though I think it has improved. There are still people hanging around outside most times of the day.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by s211

I walked past there a couple of weeks ago, only to watch a passerby woman get harassed by several people associated with that building. Safe streets, my fanny.

Did you call the police?

[bluefox]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

I have heard some bad stories about that place as well, though I think it has improved. There are still people hanging around outside most times of the day.

I agree, the temporary modular housing has been fine IMO. Marguerite Ford is waaaay worse than any of them and has been for a while.

[officedweller]

The modular housing looked nice when I walked by that day.
I thought that the laser cut steel sign (if I recall correctly) for the building was an expensive touch though.
I suppose it's durable and securely anchored.

[djh]

Putting too many of one class of person in a single development is just poor and lazy design and planning. Too many rich people, too many poor people. It strips any neighbourhood of diversity, limits the shops and services to only a specific type, and can sterilise the surrounding blocks.
I've said this a few times on here, but Vancouver should follow the Scandinavian model of mixing each building with some low income, middle-class and wealthy suites. Some family suites, some studio suites. Some suites & facilities suited for the old, some facilities for children.

Only by mixing up the demographics in an area will you get harmonious communities forming. Any homogeneous community or neighbourhood is just boring and leads to resentment from those around it.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

When did you turn into such a poor-hating asshole?

I live in the area, and the modular home structure has had zero impact on crime (not that it was great before). I do see less people sleeping in the park though.

You sound more like one yourself. It's the lack of enforcement to maintain order in a neighbourhood merely a block from VPD's headquarters that makes people become frustrated. No need to be on a high horse and sugarcoat here: Klazu is merely describing reality.

I walked by once and things were thrown down from the Marguerite Ford building I was surprised I wasn't struck.

Let's just hope they maintain order at the modular housing.

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Did you call the police?

The police ought to be able to hear the commotion from a block away, just saying.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Vin

You sound more like one yourself. It's the lack of enforcement to maintain order in a neighbourhood merely a block from VPD's headquarters that makes people become frustrated. No need to be on a high horse and sugarcoat here: Klazu is merely describing reality.

I walked by once and things were thrown down from the Marguerite Ford building I was surprised I wasn't struck.

He was referring to the modular housing and called it a "crime hive". So who knows what you're saying.

Did you call the police?

Complaining on SSP does absolutely nothing. I'm not sure if you've figured that out yet, just saying.

Perhaps building a mall in the area will fix everything.

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

i don't think calling the police on that Ford building will make a difference. what are they at now? like 1,000 police calls a year?

i have never been a huge fan of mixing $5 million places with criminal housing. (it has to be criminals since there are so many 911 calls). talk about getting hosed on that one if you buy in around there. the temporary one seems less criminal, though. i will give them that.

[cov]

that's a bit extreme. Modular housing on both second ave and first ave have been quiet, while Sanford housing residents are strangely aggressive and entitled. The outcome inevitably depends on how each program is managed. There is no reason why poverty must be concentrated like DTES.

We need accountability from the housing programs so that the neighborhoods housing them don't turn against them. If a program fails to reach its goals then it needs to be taken over by other management groups. Olympic village is a fairly successful new neighborhood, something the metro region can model after. I would love to see the successful integration of supportive programs in more neighborhoods over the disgusting mess that is DTES.

Social housing around false creek is an inevitability. Its the last batch of city-owned land that's yet to sign development contracts including the leased lands. As new development slows post covid FC will likely be the primary provider of social housing for the next decade.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by cov

We need accountability from the housing programs so that the neighborhoods housing them don't turn against them. If a program fails to reach its goals then it needs to be taken over by other management groups.

Very much this (glares accusingly at Atira).