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Originally Posted by dreambrother808
The mother no longer claims that her daughter was pushed. That seemed to be a shocked grief response immediately following the death. They do want an inquiry though, because they believe that the police played a role.
The partner of a friend of mine had a mental health crisis. When the police came, they "helped" by assaulting him. This happens and in this instance my friends were white and gay.
The inquiry is appropriate. It's not farfetched that race and/or lack of understanding around mental health are at least partially to blame. Unfortunately, the mother's initial reaction is being used to both exaggerate and minimize the issue depending on where people stand politically on these issues.
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Yeah, this is a more likely scenario, and I agree that the SIU investigation is warranted given the somewhat suspicious circumstances of the woman's death.
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Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker
I once met a guy at a bar here, an acquaintance's boyfriend. I asked where he was from because he was clearly a visible minority. He said whichever town in Newfoundland it was, and I asked the question a different way probably four times before he was visibly just done with the conversation and me and I had no idea what I'd done wrong.  I definitely know now. That's one of those cringe memories that wakes me up just before I fall asleep sometimes.
I understand racism isn't just conscious hatred and I think I understand white privilege (best explanation I've seen is that white privilege doesn't mean your life is easy, it just means being white isn't one of the things making it hard). But that's about as far as I can get. We simply aren't diverse enough to experience more. The daily reality of Toronto's multiculturalism, for example, is as foreign and far-removed to me as the police killings of black people in the United States. |
One of the things I appreciate about Toronto, being a city where virtually everyone is either an immigrant or a second or third-generation Canadian, is that "where are you from?" is an innocent question that can be genuinely asked of anyone (but most commonly by newcomers who are just curious about others' backgrounds, given that they themselves are from somewhere else), that's simply asking "what's your ethnic background/ where you were born?"; and everyone will have a different answer. No offence taken.
And you're right, that's really all that white privilege is - simply the acknowledgement that as a white person, all else being equal at least you don't have to deal with the burden of racism. But you can still experience other forms of marginalization (socioeconomic, gender, sexual identity-based, religious, disability, etc) and burdens, life can still be hard, and you can still be worse off than a non-white person. It doesn't mean you're in a position of power by virtue of race. A lot of white folks seem to take offence at the concept as though it invalidates their life struggles - but that's not actually the case.
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Originally Posted by ReeceZ
Interesting fact, many US aboriginals had black slaves and abused them severely; no different from how whites treated slaves. Black slaves were also common in India, owned by East Indians. Why isn't this ever discussed or harped on?
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Does India in 2020 have a significant population of marginalized former-slaves? Have indigenous Americans shaped post-slavery policy intended to disenfranchise the black population?
Slavery isn't even the issue anymore - it's the 150 years of systemic racism & oppression that blacks have had to endure. That's all a strawman.
Of course, given your history of racist posts I wouldn't expect you to understand this or appreciate the difference.
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