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Old Posted May 19, 2020, 3:18 AM
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Well said!

Its not overly surprising to see some (older/wealthier) people push back on the idea of work from home. Its the same generic excuse for no universal basic income - a couple of lazy people will take advantage so no one should get it. It's also similar to arguments against things like minimum wage, universal healthcare, etc.

Its weird seeing some people that are usually in favor of less car use, argue in favor people commuting to work...

I guess all the talk about using the covid19 lockdown as a starting point for changing our society didn't include healthier work/life balance and better working conditions? Seems like this would be the best starting point for moving away from office life to a whole new way of working.

But change is hard for some.
Comparing a minimum wage and universal health care to a universal guaranteed income is bit of stretch no? We already have group in Manitoba with a universal guaranteed income and it hasn’t done much to improve their lot with maybe the reverse being true.
     
     
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Old Posted May 19, 2020, 3:44 AM
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Comparing a minimum wage and universal health care to a universal guaranteed income is bit of stretch no? We already have group in Manitoba with a universal guaranteed income and it hasn’t done much to improve their lot with maybe the reverse being true.
Oh no.. you appear to be confused. I wasn't comparing them in function, I was comparing them to the generic excuses people against them come up with. The "lazy people getting my hard earned inheritance" crew.

You'll see the usual people arguing against things like this, they usually don't like to completely read whats being said or chose to comprehend things in some manner that fits their narrative. You know, the same people that add overtly racist comments.
     
     
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Interesting recommendation going before council this week: essentially an amendment to bylaws to allow the city to better enforce variances and approvals mid- and post-construction via developers front deposits/securities, and occupancy permit tied to completing plans as approved.

Essentially, sounds like developers are increasingly ignoring approved plans (such as cladding materials, landscaping, etc) because they know it's hard for the city to enforce things once a building is done. Think of how 92M ended up with junky juliet balconies instead of the nice ones that were approved.

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Old Posted May 19, 2020, 11:27 PM
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Interesting recommendation going before council this week: essentially an amendment to bylaws to allow the city to better enforce variances and approvals mid- and post-construction via developers front deposits/securities, and occupancy permit tied to completing plans as approved.

Essentially, sounds like developers are increasingly ignoring approved plans (such as cladding materials, landscaping, etc) because they know it's hard for the city to enforce things once a building is done. Think of how 92M ended up with junky juliet balconies instead of the nice ones that were approved.

http://clkapps.winnipeg.ca/DMIS/View...onId=&InitUrl=
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Believe me it’s a lot easier to get a variance once things are built rather than before. Any builder knows all the tricks in dealing with the COW especially when the inspection dept. was asleep and mostly away for the past ten years!
     
     
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That's exactly the point..
     
     
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Old Posted May 20, 2020, 4:23 AM
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That's exactly the point..
Get that, it’s just funny THAT it took city council ten years to figure it out!
     
     
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Old Posted May 20, 2020, 4:25 AM
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Well said!

Its not overly surprising to see some (older/wealthier) people push back on the idea of work from home. Its the same generic excuse for no universal basic income - a couple of lazy people will take advantage so no one should get it. It's also similar to arguments against things like minimum wage, universal healthcare, etc.

Its weird seeing some people that are usually in favor of less car use, argue in favor people commuting to work...

I guess all the talk about using the covid19 lockdown as a starting point for changing our society didn't include healthier work/life balance and better working conditions? Seems like this would be the best starting point for moving away from office life to a whole new way of working.

But change is hard for some.
More than a bit insulting to suggest people who believe there are advantages to working in an office are somehow old privileged curmudgeons opposed to change....like somehow they just don’t get it.

It’s true that some types of jobs can work from home sometimes. But I don’t believe as a whole working alone will make people better, more creative and productive professionals. I believe the advantages of learning from others makes you better. Even the example of the casework, if relationships hadn’t already been established it would not be the same. How do you train an intern or a new hire? How do you collaborate as effectively? How do you learn a new computer program? How do you seek a quick opinion or advice? How do you see what your coworkers are working on and have input into making it better? How do you learn from other people? How do you grow as a professional? I don’t think any of that can be done as effectively alone or in a video chat.

I find my engagement in the world has dropped to zero. My feeling of self worth has even declined, wearing sweat pants every day and never engaging in stimulating discussion with my peers. I don’t buy that working in isolation will make me a better professional in the long run. As a boss, I don’t think the productivity and creativity would be the same over time. Personally I feel like my work life balance has declined because a huge part of the intellectual stimulation I get from others is gone. There is no balance anymore. Spending as much time as possible at home is not a balance. Not to me anyways. Being away from home is as important to the balance as being at home is.

I could see when there might be times I could do some tasks from home, or if I was sick but not enough to stop working, I could do it from home. But as a blanket policy, I think it would make me less good at my job.

Why is the alternative to working from home, driving to work? One of the biggest things I miss is riding my bike or walking to work.

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Old Posted May 20, 2020, 5:05 AM
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Sorry. That was a rant. I had a long day in solitary confinement. Ha ha

Let’s talk about construction. Low interest rates. Low construction costs. A lot of residential developers are kicking their chops.
     
     
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Sorry. That was a rant. I had a long day in solitary confinement. Ha ha

Let’s talk about construction. Low interest rates. Low construction costs. A lot of residential developers are kicking their chops.
Hmmmm...I was wondering why there were still proposals coming down the pike. It seems strange when you think about it given that people are unlikely to plonk down much cash in these times of job insecurity. I guess the developers think we'll be in a much better position by the time these projects come online.
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Well said Vike, I feel the exact same way.
     
     
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More than a bit insulting to suggest people who believe there are advantages to working in an office are somehow old privileged curmudgeons opposed to change....like somehow they just don’t get it.

It’s true that some types of jobs can work from home sometimes. But I don’t believe as a whole working alone will make people better, more creative and productive professionals. I believe the advantages of learning from others makes you better. Even the example of the casework, if relationships hadn’t already been established it would not be the same. How do you train an intern or a new hire? How do you collaborate as effectively? How do you learn a new computer program? How do you seek a quick opinion or advice? How do you see what your coworkers are working on and have input into making it better? How do you learn from other people? How do you grow as a professional? I don’t think any of that can be done as effectively alone or in a video chat.

I find my engagement in the world has dropped to zero. My feeling of self worth has even declined, wearing sweat pants every day and never engaging in stimulating discussion with my peers. I don’t buy that working in isolation will make me a better professional in the long run. As a boss, I don’t think the productivity and creativity would be the same over time. Personally I feel like my work life balance has declined because a huge part of the intellectual stimulation I get from others is gone. There is no balance anymore. Spending as much time as possible at home is not a balance. Not to me anyways. Being away from home is as important to the balance as being at home is.

I could see when there might be times I could do some tasks from home, or if I was sick but not enough to stop working, I could do it from home. But as a blanket policy, I think it would make me less good at my job.

Why is the alternative to working from home, driving to work? One of the biggest things I miss is riding my bike or walking to work.
There's a lot to break down here, and I do thank you for providing a real response with content from the heart - pretty rare around here these days.

Your response has been heavily influenced by your current job and your current situation, however I haft to believe that you're not in the most common of positions. While I cant pretend to know all the inner workings of an Architect, I haft to imagine it includes A LOT of collaboration and interaction.

The "How do you" questions are another reflection on your workplace IMO. I've been working technology for my whole career and the shift to working from home was painless. I'm in constant communication with my coworkers, training is simple and painless, everything can be done through video conference or chat programs. The younger people in my department have transitioned so easily its like they were always working from home. I've found communication to be much easier these days as everyone is just a chat message away - no more getting up and finding them at their desks. On a personal level I'm actually finding that I'm getting closer to people at my job over the last couple of months. While there is obviously still a place for in person interactions, the idea that getting your job done is now much more difficult because you're not all in one place is false for most jobs.

As for all of your personal feelings and situation currently, I feel for you I really do... The transition has not been flawless for everyone, and while most people I know have found it enjoyable there are a couple who miss the in-person social interactions. However there is much more going on then just them working from home, society itself has been shut down for months, going out with friends for dinner has not really been an option for a while, movie theaters are closed, parks are closed. The work/life balance has been impacted for every person on the planet (in a country taking this seriously...). If the ONLY change was working 9-5 from your home and everything else was normal that transition would have been much easier for some.

One thing I've been stressing to my team is to treat work like work, even though were all at home. I wake up and get ready for work every day (make breakfast, have a shower, put on real clothes). Letting yourself be a mess is not healthy for your mental state. Get up at lunch and move around, go outside for a walk, grab your morning coffee and chat online with your coworkers like you would have at in the breakroom. And honestly, based on what you've said I would really encourage this - waking up just before work still in your pj's/sweats and then staying at your desk after work until its time to sleep is not healthy for your mental (or physical) state. I'll fully admit when this first started I was doing just that... My mental and physical health started to decline really quick so I started treating work and life as separate things, even though they're in the same location now.

2 final things (this has been a really long winded response, I am sorry...) I also find it insulting that some have the attitude of "Lol, lets see what production is like now that its warm" - suggesting that working from home will collapse because people can go outside is a little... well, insulting...

And you know as well as I do that going back to work means going back to your car. I doubt public transport, with its crammed boxes that easily spread disease, will see a major boost from Covid. And not everyone can afford a bike, lives close enough to their job to justify it, or wants to cycle to work when its -40. You know this as well as I...

TL : DR - put some damn pants on, it will benefit your mental health!
     
     
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Comparing a minimum wage and universal health care to a universal guaranteed income is bit of stretch no? We already have group in Manitoba with a universal guaranteed income and it hasn’t done much to improve their lot with maybe the reverse being true.
Hello rrskylar, I'm going to override the local moderator a bit here because this post seems to have derailed the post and I want to address something here. It is very clear you have grudges against some neighbours and it is that grudge that has derailed the topic and discussion and has brought out the usual suspects and the usual arguments and conniptions that accompany this redirection. I think it would be prudent to be more specific in your comments on UBI other than simply relying on your neighbours when you have another set of neighbours out Dauphin way who have demonstrated why UBI can be seen as a success. The case of those living on reserves have larger legal problems than those living in Dauphin and it is perhaps best ask whether UBI is the factor that begets the dysfunction.
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The Parker Lands are to be reviewed again. I didn't realized a judge ordered the City to pay GEM's legal fees. Peoples view of GEM as a developer aside, this really does look like a nice development if it were ever to move forward.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6966699/p...empt-of-court/
     
     
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Well said!

Its not overly surprising to see some (older/wealthier) people push back on the idea of work from home. Its the same generic excuse for no universal basic income - a couple of lazy people will take advantage so no one should get it. It's also similar to arguments against things like minimum wage, universal healthcare, etc.

Its weird seeing some people that are usually in favor of less car use, argue in favor people commuting to work...

I guess all the talk about using the covid19 lockdown as a starting point for changing our society didn't include healthier work/life balance and better working conditions? Seems like this would be the best starting point for moving away from office life to a whole new way of working.

But change is hard for some.
I've read a study that people who work from home generally work longer hours and have less of a work life balance. They lack a separation between what's work time and home time and that fuzzy line causes them to work longer. Where as people who go into work find it easier to shut off work when they are away from work. Personally I've seen it from many colleagues. Now emails are coming my way well outside of work hours where as before they would not be.
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Gem has a funny way of doing things.

I don't understand if Gem is trying to sidestep the normal way of developing property or if the city is really out to get them. Probably somewhere in the middle. It would be nice to have a something of significant density built there. It's those power lines that really screw the area up. If only the RT could have been built directly under them it would have been better. I'm sure something shitty will end up there...
     
     
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If the city was smart (and them and the province actually collaborated effectively) they should have just worked with Hydro to move the E-W part of the line there back toward the tracks more so the developable land was along the RT line/Hurst instead of the middle of the land. Not that many towers to move.
     
     
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Gem has a funny way of doing things.

I don't understand if Gem is trying to sidestep the normal way of developing property or if the city is really out to get them. Probably somewhere in the middle. It would be nice to have a something of significant density built there. It's those power lines that really screw the area up. If only the RT could have been built directly under them it would have been better. I'm sure something shitty will end up there...
I think the sad reality in Winnipeg is that while some are expecting TOD like Marine Gateway in Vancouver, things will probably more or less end up looking like Century Park in Edmonton.

The facts are that in Winnipeg, the cost savings of taking transit compared to driving are too small because congestion simply isn't significant enough yet making time savings from transit zero (or negative in some cases), and car ownership costs are not as astronomical as most transit advocates make it out to be. Most Winnipeggers are perfectly fine throwing away an additional $500 a month on car payments/insurance/parking/gas if it means shorter commute times and significantly more convenience.

Until congestion becomes so bad or transit becomes so efficient that significant time savings can be achieved by taking transit instead of driving, the cost of driving and the convenience relative to the bus is too high in Winnipeg, so transit adoption will remain low. This isn't a Winnipeg phenomena, this is simply individual cost/benefit analysis which is a universal principal.
     
     
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^ I don't think the idea is to shift people away from suburban homes with 2 cars to TOD... the idea is to build new multifamily homes in a way that makes transit more convenient for those who are going to use transit either way. After all, there are many people in this city who can't or won't drive, so TOD is a realistic way to provide them with benefits in a way that also makes sense for the city.

And sure Century Park might not have worked out, but Edmonton has a lot of TOD, much of it built in the last 15 years.
     
     
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I would be happy with a few 8-15 story buildings like the north side of Taylor or Grant Park Mall. Which is sort of what the proposal is. Just a minimization of the wasted urban swamp land.
     
     
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Anybody have any idea what all the excavation is for on the land between the Panet Rd 4R center and the MJardin Group's cannabis cultivation facility in the old Maple Leaf meat processing plant on Warman Rd.

last week the soil and brush was being stripped off and today when I went by there was an excavator on site digging a pit.
     
     
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