The Great Canadian Transit Thread

[Dengler Avenue]

FrAnKs, does that mean Rue Dorchester will become two-way?

[FrAnKs]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

FrAnKs, does that mean Rue Dorchester will become two-way?

Exactly!
This will compensate for the loss of lanes for cars.

[FrAnKs]

I should also mention, that Rue Dorchester is actually 3 lanes. They will add a 4th lane by deleting all parkings along the way. So, 2 lanes to the south, 2 lanes to the north.

[J.OT13]

Why are there two renderings, one without a tram and one with a tram?

[FrAnKs]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Why are there two renderings, one without a tram and one with a tram?

Before/After

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by FrAnKs

Before/After

That's what crossed my mind, but it seemned strange that they used a rendering for the "Before" shot instead of an actual picture.

[Chadillaccc]

Updates to Green Line as of today.

9 Avenue North Station - Officially Included





Eau Claire Station - Returned underground - Integrated into Eau Claire Market Redevelopment - Brings number of subway stations in Phase 1 back up to 4.





Centre Street BRT - Interim solution - Transit-only lanes added






Calgary Rapid Transit Map - includes all proposed CTrain line extensions and BRT lines, does not include eventual conversion of Purple Line to LRT

[FrAnKs]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

That's what crossed my mind, but it seemned strange that they used a rendering for the "Before" shot instead of an actual picture.

Agree lol...I bet their employees had alot of spare time during self-isolation in the latest weeks

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Exactly. The only way it’s ever going to get done is, well, if you do it. If not now, then when?

When gridlock is so bad that a commute anywhere is impossible?

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc;8921629}

Calgary Rapid Transit Map - includes all proposed CTrain line extensions and BRT lines, does not include eventual conversion of Purple Line to LRT

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https://cdn.skyrisecities.com/forum/attachments/future-yyc-rapid-transit-map-png.245256/[/img]

Is there a timeline for this?

[Chadillaccc]

Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

Is there a timeline for this?

The second image here (the one based on population growth) is actually relatively accurate so far. The Green Line section needs updating. Otherwise, at 1.3 million in the municipality we are right on schedule.

[FrAnKs]

The new exchange station...or whatever you call it in English (French : Pôle d'échange) of the Ste-Foy part of Québec City.
It will connect Québec City & South shore buses, Tramway, Trolleybuses all together.

A viaduct will be built on Laurier Boulevard to make sure transit systems are not blocking the traffic along this important artery.

(Photos courtesy : Ville de Québec)

[J.OT13]

Tomorrow, there will be a joint technical briefing hosted by the City of Ottawa and Gatineau's STO on options to connect the Aylmer sector of Gatineau and Downtown Ottawa.

[foolworm]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Calgary Rapid Transit Map - includes all proposed CTrain line extensions and BRT lines, does not include eventual conversion of Purple Line to LRT.

What about the Max Teal conversion? I thought there was some discussion about a surface (i.e. low floor) line from Westbrook to at least MRU / Currie since the Blue line spur was shelved.

I thought Max Purple was supposed to eventually terminate at Inglewood / Ramsey. If converted to LRT, will it run downtown using the Green Line tunnel?

Otherwise, it looks like Calgary is looking to go all in on BRT - the only new rail corridor looks to be the Airport Connector. Would it be worthwhile linking up Max Yellow to the proposed deep south BRT?

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

The second image here (the one based on population growth) is actually relatively accurate so far. The Green Line section needs updating. Otherwise, at 1.3 million in the municipality we are right on schedule.

It is interesting to see how forward thinking Calgary is with their transit when it is touted as the Oil city.

[foolworm]

Originally Posted by FrAnKs

The new exchange station...or whatever you call it in English (French : Pôle d'échange) of the Ste-Foy part of Québec City.
It will connect Québec City & South shore buses, Tramway, Trolleybuses all together.

A viaduct will be built on Laurier Boulevard to make sure transit systems are not blocking the traffic along this important artery.

An interchange station.

A transit-only boulevard is quite daring. Hopefully the increased transit density offsets the loss of pedestrian activity from on-street traffic (which has killed transit malls before). Calgary's 7 Ave S does well, but it has LRT platforms / bus stops every block along the entire corridor. Edmonton also has a similar boulevard planned for its Metro line extension that is currently under construction.

I am also very interested in the Trambus, which I believe will be the first of its kind in North America. I wonder if the vehicle will be simply a bi-articulated bus or incorporate more train-like features such as enclosed driver cabs (or cabs on both ends!) and doors on both sides. I also assume that since it runs in a dedicated corridor, it should be exempt from Quebec's road vehicle length regulations?

[accord1999]

Originally Posted by foolworm

What about the Max Teal conversion? I thought there was some discussion about a surface (i.e. low floor) line from Westbrook to at least MRU / Currie since the Blue line spur was shelved.

Realistically, the resources for rail in Calgary is going to be consumed by the Green Line for the next 30 years.

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by accord1999

Realistically, the resources for rail in Calgary is going to be consumed by the Green Line for the next 30 years.

Big time. Who know if the City will have funding available by then as well, giving the hollowing-out of its oil and gas industry.

[FrAnKs]

Originally Posted by foolworm

An interchange station.

A transit-only boulevard is quite daring. Hopefully the increased transit density offsets the loss of pedestrian activity from on-street traffic (which has killed transit malls before). Calgary's 7 Ave S does well, but it has LRT platforms / bus stops every block along the entire corridor. Edmonton also has a similar boulevard planned for its Metro line extension that is currently under construction.

I am also very interested in the Trambus, which I believe will be the first of its kind in North America. I wonder if the vehicle will be simply a bi-articulated bus or incorporate more train-like features such as enclosed driver cabs (or cabs on both ends!) and doors on both sides. I also assume that since it runs in a dedicated corridor, it should be exempt from Quebec's road vehicle length regulations?

I am quite curious about the Trambus too! I hope everything will be fine.
It's a bit ''off the radar'' because we tend to focus more on the Tramway, but the Trambus is also very important and to answer your question, it will have dedicated lanes (separated from the circulation).
Here are some informations about the Trambus (French only) but images speak from themselves.

But let's never forget that it's not a TRAMWAY system, it's a whole new transit network INCLUDING Tramways.

Maps :

https://www.rtcquebec.ca/rtc/aucoeurdumouvement/pdf/Trac%C3%A9%20du%20r%C3%A9seau%20structurant.pdf

https://reseaustructurant.info/carte/

Infos :

https://reseaustructurant.info/composantes/trambus/

Video :

• Video Link

I hope that will answer your questions.

[foolworm]

Originally Posted by accord1999

Realistically, the resources for rail in Calgary is going to be consumed by the Green Line for the next 30 years.

That depends on future funding levels and commitments. Who knows, we might return to the days of incremental expansion instead of building entire lines as one mega-project.

Speaking of Green Line, I noticed the links for next week's virtual public engagement sessions are up. Should be interesting to hear the design team elaborate on some of the choices made. I also didn't realise the 4.65 billion would include 301 BRT improvements to Max-level standards, which I guess is a bit of a consolation prize to north-central residents.

[J.OT13]

Gatineau has submitted its options to bring it's Tramway to Ottawa. Two options are considered;

A surface route along Wellington Street:

Avantages

• Stations au niveau du sol, facilitant ainsi leur accès.
• Plus facile à mettre en œuvre.
• Composante potentielle d'une boucle interprovinciale avec le Pont Alexandra.

Inconvénients

• Corridor avec plusieurs utilisations et projets à venir, nécessitant certains compromis:

• Esplanade nord;
• Élargissement partiel du trottoir sud;
• Nouvelle piste cyclable bidirectionnelle;
• Voies véhiculaires.
• Enjeux de sécurité liés à la Cité Parlementaire, notamment en matière du positionnement des stations.
• Aménagements à prévoir pour assurer le service lors de manifestations et évènements sur la rue Wellington.
• Perturbation du trafic actuel et du service de transport en commun pendant la construction (planification des détours et gestion du trafic nécessaires).
• Option induisant un volume important de piétons traversant l'axe pour rejoindre les stations.

Or a tunnel under Sparks Street:

Avantages

• Peu d'impacts en surface sur l'aménagement et sur la circulation.
• Correspondances plus directes avec l'O-Train.
• Environnement protégé contre les intempéries pour les correspondances de passagers.
• Moins vulnérable aux interruptions de service liées à des facteurs externes tels que des manifestations.

Inconvénients

• Coût probablement plus important que l'option en surface.
• Construction plus complexe avec délais plus importants et avec risques plus importants.
• Contraintes souterraines importantes (réseaux, fondations, …).
• Portail avec impacts importants sur l'espace ouvert à l'ouest de la rue Commissioner.
• Enjeux de sécurité possibles concernant les institutions fédérales adjacentes.

http://www.sto.ca/index.php?id=837&L=fr&...e&utm_campaign=Analyses_insertion_Ottawa

For reference, the Confederation Line runs under Queen Street, so two blocks south of Wellington or one block south of Sparks.