YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[hollywoodcory]

WS appears to have cancelled all international/transborder flights basically until further notice, except for May. All flights beyond June 1 are "cancelled".

YVR-LGW is presently unaffected for now.

Edit: I think this could have been a glitch / or system issue as they have restored the removed schedules.

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by hollywoodcory

WS appears to have cancelled all international/transborder flights basically until further notice, except for May. All flights beyond June 1 are "cancelled".

YVR-LGW is presently unaffected for now.

Edit: I think this could have been a glitch / or system issue as they have restored the removed schedules.

Changes still happening on a daily basis... what we see today won’t be the same next week. Just cannot see WS with their complete European schedule this summer... hardly anybody will want to travel even if this turns around tomorrow (which it won’t)... long term recovery before most people will want to travel again.

[nname]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Changes still happening on a daily basis... what we see today won’t be the same next week. Just cannot see WS with their complete European schedule this summer... hardly anybody will want to travel even if this turns around tomorrow (which it won’t)... long term recovery before most people will want to travel again.

I've stopped my weekly update of AC schedule now...

Well, I haven't even been bother scanning them for almost a month now. There's just no point at the moment.

[hollywoodcory]

Originally Posted by nname

I've stopped my weekly update of AC schedule now...

Well, I haven't even been bother scanning them for almost a month now. There's just no point at the moment.

I usually only check weekly, as WS typically updates its schedule on Sundays. This week the update occurred today. This at least gives me something to do now that I'm not working.

It looks like they blocked middle seats on all US / Sun destination flights for all flights right through the summer so that may have caused the schedules to disappear briefly. They didn't do this for any of the long haul routes, so they would have not been affected.

[agamemnon]

Looking a little shorter-term, FWIW, international for next week (as of today!) seems to be:

AC: 2 X HKG, 3 X LHR
BR: 3 X TPE
CA: 1 X PEK (inbound via SHE)
CX: 2 x HKG
CZ: 1 X CAN
JL: 2 X NRT
MF: 3 X XMN (*)
MU: 1 X PVG
NH: 3 X HND
3U: 1 X CTU

(*) timetable listing says 3 X, and it does seem to have run three times in the last seven days, but surely they have to reduce to one weekly?

[nname]

Originally Posted by agamemnon

Looking a little shorter-term, FWIW, international for next week (as of today!) seems to be:

AC: 2 X HKG, 3 X LHR
BR: 3 X TPE
CA: 1 X PEK (inbound via SHE)
CX: 2 x HKG
CZ: 1 X CAN
JL: 2 X NRT
MF: 3 X XMN (*)
MU: 1 X PVG
NH: 3 X HND
3U: 1 X CTU

(*) timetable listing says 3 X, and it does seem to have run three times in the last seven days, but surely they have to reduce to one weekly?

MF runs 1x weekly on Thursday
MU doesn't run to YVR anymore... they picked YYZ
FI to KEF currently schedule to resume next week, 3x weekly

[casper]

Originally Posted by hollywoodcory

WS appears to have cancelled all international/transborder flights basically until further notice, except for May. All flights beyond June 1 are "cancelled".

YVR-LGW is presently unaffected for now.

Edit: I think this could have been a glitch / or system issue as they have restored the removed schedules.

I don't see the LGW service working over the next year. Given tourism is dead for the next 12 months.

More likely is seeing WS fly into Paris or Amsterdam and try to use their European partners to provide onward connections. Perhaps WS can shift into Heathrow through some kind of magic slot reallocation. LGW is a crappy airport to provide onward connections from.

[whatnext]

The numbers say it all:

YVR passenger traffic falls to 3,000 per day from 78,000
Traffic has plummeted at YVR to four per cent of its normal volume
By Maria Rantanen, Richmond News
April 7, 2020, 9:32am

Traffic has plummeted at YVR to four per cent of its normal volume.

Craig Richmond, CEO of the Vancouver Airport Authority, reported to the Richmond COVID-19 Community Task Force on Monday that only 3,000 passengers were travelling through the airport given the current travel restrictions, down from a normal volume of 78,000 per day.

Furthermore, the terminal has been largely consolidated into just Terminal C and its adjacent gates...

https://biv.com/article/2020/04/yvr-passenger-traffic-falls-3000-day-78000

[TheGreatestX]

AC has suspended CDG, TPE, BNE for the summer

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by nname

MF runs 1x weekly on Thursday
MU doesn't run to YVR anymore... they picked YYZ
FI to KEF currently schedule to resume next week, 3x weekly

I don’t think the 1 flight per week to each country per Chinese airline is happening. MU is still flying to YVR at least 5x per week. CA is operating more than 1 flight per week and MF is still operating 3 x per week as well.
Same with Australia CA, CZ and MU are flying to both MEL and SYD multiple times per week.

[vancouverer]

April 15, 2020

As passenger traffic continues to slow at YVR, we are bringing together additional areas of the terminal to conserve our resources. Beginning today, you’ll see some changes to domestic check-in and international passenger pre-board screening.

Flying Within Canada?

Domestic check-in and baggage drop-off have been moved to the International Terminal. This impacts the following airlines:

Air Canada
WestJet
Air Transat
Flair Airlines
Air North
The Domestic Terminal check-in and baggage drop-off area on departures level 3 is temporarily closed.

Once you are checked-in, head to the C-Gates checkpoint for pre-board security screening.

Flying Internationally (not including the U.S.)?

Your check-in and baggage drop-off process stays the same at the International Terminal.

Please note, once you have checked-in, you will now go to the Domestic Terminal C-Gates checkpoint for pre-board security screening, then walk to your International Terminal gate after security. The international pre-board screening checkpoint is temporarily closed.

Flying to the U.S.?

Your process does not change. Check-in and drop your bags off at the U.S. Terminal, then head to pre-board security and US Customs.

These terminal changes include closing all washroom and retail, food and beverage outlets in the impacted areas. Changes to retail, food and beverage are happening daily, and tenants are trying their best to match operating hours with flight schedules to ensure services are available for our passengers. As of April 16, all food and beverage outlets pre-security in International Terminal will be closed. Select operators remain open pre-security in the Domestic Terminal on Level 3 (food court) and Level 1 as well as Hudson News.

[Johnny Aussie]

Xiamen, Sichuan, Air China, Hainan, China Southern and China Eastern have all operated to YVR this week and some more than once weekly. This one flight per week rumour doesn’t seem to be true.
CX, JL, BR, NH, NZ, AM and KE cargo have also been operating regular flights to YVR.

[nname]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Xiamen, Sichuan, Air China, Hainan, China Southern and China Eastern have all operated to YVR this week and some more than once weekly. This one flight per week rumour doesn’t seem to be true.
CX, JL, BR, NH, NZ, AM and KE cargo have also been operating regular flights to YVR.

Only 1 flight/week is bookable through airline website. Not sure what the others are... cargo-only? charter? repatriation?

Most of these flights to China had been marked as sold out till at least mid-May or early June, and the ones that aren't only have a few seats left at full fare...

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by nname

Only 1 flight/week is bookable through airline website. Not sure what the others are... cargo-only? charter? repatriation?

Most of these flights to China had been marked as sold out till at least mid-May or early June, and the ones that aren't only have a few seats left at full fare...

Don’t know. Just saying the Airlineroute article wasn’t accurate. MF is flying in both directions as we speak for example and with their regularly scheduled flight numbers.

Also Cargojet has had two 763 freighters to NRT over the last two days.

[WestCoastEcho]

Originally Posted by nname

Only 1 flight/week is bookable through airline website. Not sure what the others are... cargo-only? charter? repatriation?

Most of these flights to China had been marked as sold out till at least mid-May or early June, and the ones that aren't only have a few seats left at full fare...

I believe cargo only. I'm hearing a lot of airlines are flying cargo only flights with passenger aircraft, with either packing the bellies of the aircraft full of air cargo, which has seen a massive spike in demand, or are taking out seats in the main cabin and loose loading light packages in the main cabin along with packing the bellies full.

[nname]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Don’t know. Just saying the Airlineroute article wasn’t accurate. MF is flying in both directions as we speak for example and with their regularly scheduled flight numbers.

Also Cargojet has had two 763 freighters to NRT over the last two days.

I searched for information for MU581 and MU582 on the Chinese side. They are now listed under "Cargo Flight"

[jollyburger]

Only 13 international flights were scheduled to arrive at the airport Friday: seven from the U.S., two from Hong Kong, and one each from Japan, Taiwan, the Philippines and Mexico.

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news...fter-b-c-screens-international-arrivals/

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by WestCoastEcho

I believe cargo only. I'm hearing a lot of airlines are flying cargo only flights with passenger aircraft, with either packing the bellies of the aircraft full of air cargo, which has seen a massive spike in demand, or are taking out seats in the main cabin and loose loading light packages in the main cabin along with packing the bellies full.

On the YVR blog of a cargo filled cabin. Looks like a pain to net everything down.



https://www.yvr.ca/en/blog/2020/why-does-yvr-remain-open

[officedweller]

And a long time, especially to balance weight in the plane

[Johnny Aussie]

Right now the following airlines flying intl routes are in the air to or from YVR.

CX, BR, 3U, NH, AC, CZ.