The Great Canadian Transit Thread

[FrAnKs]

The future 23km long Tramway - Québec City
Available by 2026.

https://www.ville.quebec.qc.ca/publications/bulletin_municipal/docs/202003_CahierSpecial.pdf

[Reecemartin]

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[J.OT13]

O-Train updates.

Originally Posted by sseguin

The city's motion of default to RTG can be found here, along with the press release.

https://www.otrainfans.ca/news/confederation-line-stage-2-lrt-update-fedco-march-9-2020

In addition, Stage 2 LRT construction update presentation can also be found on the same page.

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

Steeles Avenue is TTC jurisdiction, in which case better fare integration, even just a deal cut only between YRT and TTC, is the way to go.

Steels is the border between the 2. Therefore, it is both. This is why a fare zone system in the GTHA makes much more sense than individual transit agencies.

[Chadillaccc]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Great to see the City of Calgary considering solutions to continue with the Green Line project.

For Crescent Heights Station, I would prefer the Centre Traffic option to minimize street crossings and to make the sidewalks wider (even if it's an illusion, it could still make people feel safer).

The treatment of the tunnel portal is quite nice. Ottawa went with the most basic approach there is, which makes them very unappealing and down-right oppressive. It's not a huge deal at the moment because they are far from walkable areas, but one is adjacent to the future central library, complete with an ugly grey power substation shed next to it.

Bridge options are also nice, but the cable-stayed seems a little over the top.

My only complaint would be the bare-bones stations. Hopefully, these are just preliminary and more coverage will be provided.

I agree about the side platforms for Crescent Heights Station, and it would be easy to swoop back into middle lane tracks - as we see in Waterloo - so that it can dive back UG for 16 Ave Station.

Same complaint about that stations for me. I'm certain that they will be much beefier than that, as on our current network there is only one station that's as dinky as that. These renders don't even show any sheltering, which would of course be a necessity in any non-Pacific Canadian city.

One of our guys over at SRC designed a hybrid bridge that would be more tailored to Calgary, harkening to views of the Rockies seen all over the city (and incidentally would be visible from the bridge), and not being as overbearing as the tied arch or other cable stayed bridge previously shown.

The beautiful "Rocky Mountain Bridge" design by Googspecial on SRC.


https://calgary.skyrisecities.com/forum/...ne-lrt-m-s-calgary-transit.24786/page-42

[saffronleaf]

Originally Posted by FrAnKs

The future 23km long Tramway - Québec City
Available by 2026.

https://www.ville.quebec.qc.ca/publications/bulletin_municipal/docs/202003_CahierSpecial.pdf

[Reecemartin]

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[Reecemartin]

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[Coldrsx]

Edmonton's SE Valley Line LRT 6-9months delayed, ie. mid-2021 now, so they will run rapid buses/B-lines in place of it until up and running...

[Chadillaccc]

What caused the delay, or did they say?

[Coldrsx]

Heavy rains, unexpected concrete in the river near the bridge foundation, etc. etc.

[Innsertnamehere]

Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

Steels is the border between the 2. Therefore, it is both. This is why a fare zone system in the GTHA makes much more sense than individual transit agencies.

It is technically both but Toronto assumes all responsibilities and simply cost shares it with York Region. It’s built to Toronto municipal standards, transit is operated by Toronto, the road is plowed by Toronto, and capital improvements such as road widening and resurfacing is handled by Toronto. The Stouffville GO line grade separation had Toronto do the design to have it handed to Metrolinx to build it, and Toronto will soon be widening Steele’s in the east end with 50% of costs covered by York Region, even though the widening is mostly due to growth in Markham.

[Chadillaccc]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Heavy rains, unexpected concrete in the river near the bridge foundation, etc. etc.

Oh that blows. Concrete from like a historic structure that's not there anymore?

[milomilo]

Expect the same for the Green Line. The actual end product will be so diluted, delayed and cost inflated that any claimed benefits from years ago that were predicated on 45 or 20km of line being built in 2026 are now false. If we could have a time machine and tell everyone back then that what they'll actually get is the least useful part of the line by ~2028, and the rest will have to wait for years after that, would anyone have supported it?

[Reecemartin]

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[J.OT13]

I wonder if Covid-19 might result in more delays in transit projects across the country.

[accord1999]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

I wonder if Covid-19 might result in more delays in transit projects across the country.

It may be hard to justify financially if existing transit systems see noticeable permanent loss in ridership, as people become unwilling to stand so close to each other and more downtime needed to ensure vehicles are kept clean and disinfected.

[Nouvellecosse]

It makes sense that if most things are closed and people are sitting home that transit shouldn't be running at 100%. If anything it's unfair to the operators who are being forced to work when they might have kids at home or other responsibilities to take care of and are being exposed to the risk.

[Coldrsx]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Oh that blows. Concrete from like a historic structure that's not there anymore?

Yup, likely a logging operations dock foundation

[davidivivid]

Today, Legault answered a question specifically about transit infrastructure projects in Quebec and he said that projects such as Quebec City's tram will definitely not be delayed, quite the contrary. Investment in these projects will be important to softened the consequences of the impending recession. As of march 10th, Quebec had a $1.9B surplus from the 2019 fiscal year, even after the $2.6B transfer to the generation's fund to accelerate the debt reduction. Also, after the 2008 recession, a law was passed which created a so called "réserve de stabilisation" forcing the government to save some funds each year so as to have money readily accessible in the case of an emergency, instead of resorting to huge deficits. As of march, the réserve de stabilisation stands at about $14B. In the last decade, Quebec's finances have been managed quite rigorously and it will greatly help the Province in the coming months.

COVID-19: «Pas question de retarder» le tramway et le troisième lien, assure François Legault

Malgré les impacts économiques «très négatifs» à venir avec la pandémie mondiale de coronavirus, le premier ministre François Legault assure que de grands projets comme le troisième lien et le tramway à Québec ne seront pas retardés.

«Il n'est pas question de retarder quoi que ce soit, c’est le contraire», a signalé M. Legault, lorsque questionné sur l’avenir de ces deux projets précis.

Lors d’une conférence de presse avec le ministre des Finances, Eric Girard, et le ministre du Travail, Jean Boulet, le premier ministre a plutôt insisté sur l’importance, à ce moment-ci, d’augmenter les investissements publics afin de stimuler l’économie.

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https://www.journaldequebec.com/2020/03/...e-troisieme-lien-assure-francois-legault