Phoenix Development News (3) - Page 834

biggus diggus · #**16661** Posted **Mar 5, 2020, 5:44 PM**

The firestone building has more details than people notice driving by, it's very interesting architecture. The Iceberg Grand Prix used it for support services, that's my clearest memory of the place.

azliam · #**16662** Posted **Mar 5, 2020, 7:09 PM**

Cranes

Wish we had more webcams.

Chestnut1 · #**16663** Posted **Mar 5, 2020, 9:02 PM**

Preliminary building plans were submitted yesterday

PRLM 2009169 Issued 04-MAR-2020
Plan Description 802 N. 1ST AVE
Project 19-1930 MCKINLEY GREEN
PROJECT DESCRIPTION:the project consist of 23 story residential building with integrated parking above garde, common amenity areas
and ground floor commercial space.

Obadno · #**16664** Posted **Mar 5, 2020, 9:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by Chestnut1

Preliminary building plans were submitted yesterday

PRLM 2009169 Issued 04-MAR-2020
Plan Description 802 N. 1ST AVE
Project 19-1930 MCKINLEY GREEN
PROJECT DESCRIPTION:the project consist of 23 story residential building with integrated parking above garde, common amenity areas
and ground floor commercial space.

Nice big project I hope it goes up quick.

CrestedSaguaro · #**16665** Posted **Mar 5, 2020, 9:33 PM**

This initially had some pushback due to the height from the area residents. Does anyone know if that is no longer the case?

Obadno · #**16666** Posted **Mar 5, 2020, 9:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by RonnieFoos

This initially had some pushback due to the height from the area residents. Does anyone know if that is no longer the case?

Hard to make that case with Stewart across the street and Aspire a block to the south.

azliam · #**16667** Posted **Mar 5, 2020, 9:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by Obadno

Nice big project I hope it goes up quick.

So is McKinley Green is going to be right next to the proposed First McKinley? We've seen the renderings for First McKinley, but I do not remember seeing them for McKinley Green.

Obadno · #**16668** Posted **Mar 5, 2020, 10:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by azliam

So is McKinley Green is going to be right next to the proposed First McKinley? We've seen the renderings for First McKinley, but I do not remember seeing them for McKinley Green.

Im about 99% certain its all the same

Most recent rendering:

Phxguy · #**16669** Posted **Mar 5, 2020, 10:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by RonnieFoos

This initially had some pushback due to the height from the area residents. Does anyone know if that is no longer the case?

Snell & Wilmer mentioned at our last meeting the newest renderings seemed to appease the residents. The building facade on 2nd Ave will be brick and pulled down to screen the parking garage. Structures are also stepped back on 2nd so to compliment the historic homes.

CrestedSaguaro · #**16670** Posted **Mar 5, 2020, 10:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by Obadno

Im about 99% certain its all the same

Most recent rendering:

Correct, they are the same. TrueNorth took over McKinley Greene and it morphed into the current First McKinley.

azliam · #**16671** Posted **Mar 5, 2020, 10:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by Obadno

Im about 99% certain its all the same

Most recent rendering:

That's why I was confused. First-McKinley map shows it at 816 N. First:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/814+N+...aaf493c94!8m2!3d33.4573729!4d-112.075511

Whereas, McKinley Green says 802 N. First, but perhaps it could eat up both lots.

CrestedSaguaro · #**16672** Posted **Mar 5, 2020, 10:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by azliam

That's why I was confused. First-McKinley map shows it at 816 N. First:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/814+N+...aaf493c94!8m2!3d33.4573729!4d-112.075511

Whereas, McKinley Green says 802 N. First, but perhaps it could eat up both lots.

The rendering appears to show they will be keeping the former McKinley club. So yes, this is the lot to the North and behind the McKinley Club. The original McKinley Green showed a tower built on top of the McKinley Club. Maybe the new project is to appease some locals that would have been vocal about it's destruction?

Chestnut1 · #**16673** Posted **Mar 5, 2020, 10:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by azliam

That's why I was confused. First-McKinley map shows it at 816 N. First:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/814+N+...aaf493c94!8m2!3d33.4573729!4d-112.075511

Whereas, McKinley Green says 802 N. First, but perhaps it could eat up both lots.

Yes, they are the same. The application had an Atlanta address which is for Sixty West Funds. They reference First McKinley on their webpage https://sixtywestfunds.com/sixty-west-fu...acting-both-residents-investors-in-2019/

Chestnut1 · #**16674** Posted **Mar 5, 2020, 10:42 PM**

Here's some variance activity related to the Central Station site (March 19 agenda)

Application #: ZA-74-20-7
Existing Zoning: DTC-Business Core
Location: 300 North Central Avenue
Quarter Section: 11-27(F8)
Proposal: 1) Variance to increase the maximum building setback (east) Central Avenue to 16 feet. Maximum building setback of 10 feet allowed. 2) Variance to decrease the minimum building setback (west) 1st Avenue to 0 feet. Minimum building setback of 5 feet required. 3) Variance to increase the maximum building setback (south) Van Buren Street to 25 feet. Maximum building setback of 5 feet allowed. 4) Variance to reduce the required sidewalk width (south) Van Buren Street to 5 feet. Minimum 8 feet required.
5) Variance to reduce the combined depth of the parking space and the aisle width to 60 feet for a double loaded aisle. Minimum 62 feet required.
Ordinance Sections: 1209.D 1209.D 1209.D 1209.D. 702.B.2.b.(5)
Applicant: James Geimer, Medistar
Representative: Nick Wood Esq., Snell and Wilmer, LLP
Owner: City of Phoenix

CrestedSaguaro · #**16675** Posted **Mar 5, 2020, 10:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by Chestnut1

Yes, they are the same. The application had an Atlanta address which is for Sixty West Funds. They reference First McKinley on their webpage https://sixtywestfunds.com/sixty-west-fu...acting-both-residents-investors-in-2019/

Not sure I trust a website that states that Phoenix is the 3rd largest US city based on a 2017 estimate from Wikipedia. I'm sure it's a typo, but still had to give it some flack!

Obadno · #**16676** Posted **Mar 5, 2020, 11:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by RonnieFoos

Not sure I trust a website that states that Phoenix is the 3rd largest US city based on a 2017 estimate from Wikipedia. I'm sure it's a typo, but still had to give it some flack!

The Data on that page is all over the place.

IndyAZ · #**16677** Posted **Mar 6, 2020, 1:17 AM**

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Originally Posted by Obadno

Nice big project I hope it goes up quick.

I spoke with someone involved with the project, and it is currently scheduled for a June construction start, although initial schedules tend to get pushed slightly. Sounds like Katerra will be building this one as well.

CrestedSaguaro · #**16678** Posted **Mar 6, 2020, 6:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by IndyAZ

I spoke with someone involved with the project, and it is currently scheduled for a June construction start, although initial schedules tend to get pushed slightly. Sounds like Katerra will be building this one as well.

That's pretty soon for not having hardly any permits. Hope to see them ramping up soon. This would be a great project and with Derby and Aspire and will really make northern Downtown really start looking taller and more dense.

Also, in case anyone is wondering, yes I had my screen name changed from RonnieFoos to reflect something more Arizon'ish. Never did like my old screen name

combusean · #**16679** Posted **Mar 6, 2020, 6:12 PM**

Foos is an uncommon last name but my family married into it. Maybe we're cousins Crested!

combusean · #**16680** Posted **Mar 6, 2020, 6:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by IndyAZ

I spoke with someone involved with the project, and it is currently scheduled for a June construction start, although initial schedules tend to get pushed slightly. Sounds like Katerra will be building this one as well.

Smells like these big moneyed developers are milking the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act for all its worth with these Opportunity Zone tax credits. I was never a fan of the Act but it has certainly helped Downtown Phoenix more or less explode.