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Old Posted Mar 2, 2020, 7:08 PM
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And Phoenix has lacked that east/west connection for many years. It's a shame there's no long-term transportation solution to alleviate this. I'm ambivalent about the 50 and it's academic to debate it.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 2, 2020, 7:11 PM
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Azndragon's dad bought their house when ADOT sold it at a firesale price when the freeway was cancelled. I'm not sure why it was cancelled but I'd like to find out.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 2, 2020, 8:47 PM
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It was canceled due to acquisition costs.
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I'm skeptical of this number but I don't have the on-the-ground sense that you do. I'm judging this by the VC that Phoenix companies receive and last I checked it barely registered. I'm jaded having worked for marketroids and scammers for many years.
There was over $1B in VC to AZ startups last year. While its not the same as Silicon Valley - its a significant number. I remember when startups in town would get news for landing a $30M round. Now you don’t hear that very much because its a lot more common than you’d think.

This isn’t some backwater tech hub anymore.
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This isn’t some backwater tech hub anymore.

Ehhhh. Phoenix has definitely gotten better, but it's still a way off from even being even a top-10 'tech hub' market.
     
     
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Ehhhh. Phoenix has definitely gotten better, but it's still a way off from even being even a top-10 'tech hub' market.
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Phoenix is *worlds better* in terms of diversification over the last 10 years let alone 20. The change is drastic. So let's not act like the transformation is anything but impressive. If you're not a fan of Phoenix, I agree, don't post here. This is for fans with constructive criticism.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 3, 2020, 10:52 PM
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Looks like the abandoned hotel 502 will soon be gone.

Broad-stone continues to roll.

https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/news...ments-in-midtown-phoenix-get-zoning.html

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One of the largest national multifamily developers is in escrow to buy a run-down hotel on Camelback Road and Fifth Avenue in midtown Phoenix, with plans to raze the vacant structure to build luxury apartments.

Alliance Residential Co. received zoning approval to raze Hotel 502 at 502 W. Camelback Road, to build a 280-unit luxury apartment community.

The Phoenix-based developer hired Withey Morris PLC to handle its zoning case.

"The old, decrepit hotel hasn't been in operation for a while," said George Pasquel III, entitlement specialist for Withey Morris. "It was a big issue for the neighborhood. It was a gathering place for all kinds of malfeasance from drug deals, homeless people and graffiti. Even when it was in operation, its latest version was not a favorite of the neighborhood. It brought a very undesired crowd."

Pasquel knew he had a long road ahead of him to convince the Medlock Place Historic Neighborhood of the new project.

"They're a very organized, astute organization," Pasquel said. "We did a lot of early outreach on this before we even filed the application."

The local group's biggest concern was traffic cutting through their neighborhood, he said.

"They didn't have a concern about height or density," Pasquel said. "We could have gone higher for all they cared."

The project will be five stories, said Jon Garshick, development director for Alliance Residential.


To address traffic concerns, Alliance Residential contributed $25,000 to Medlock Place Historic Neighborhood to allow residents to develop a solution to discourage cut-through traffic.

"People leaving the restaurants on Central Avenue cutting through the neighborhood instead of going along Central or Camelback has been their primary concern," Pasquel said. "This is an existing concern. The city agreed our project is not going to significantly increase traffic in the neighborhood, but Alliance wanted to be good neighbors."

Garshick said he plans to close escrow on the 4.4-acre site by May and will begin demolition immediately.

Investing upward of $65 million into the project, Garshick expects the luxury apartments to be completed by fourth-quarter 2021.

Garshick said apartment units will range from 620 square feet for a studio to 1,650 square feet for a two-bedroom, with monthly rents starting at $1,400. One three-bedroom unit will be built on the top floor that will be 1,950 square feet and go for $3,200 a month, he added.

The project will include a two-level parking garage, with one level below grade and one level at grade.

"The location really stands out for us," he said. "The light rail is one of the things that attracted us. It's both close to midtown and downtown Phoenix as well as close to the Camelback Corridor," Garshick said. "In addition, there are a lot of retail and entertainment amenities at Uptown Plaza at Central and Camelback and restaurants along Camelback and Central as well."

Alliance Residential has about 1,000 units under construction in metro Phoenix, including a 274-unit community on 5 acres at Papago Plaza at Scottsdale and McDowell roads in Scottsdale.

Total development costs for that project also are less than $65 million, Garshick said, with plans to open during third-quarter 2021.

All its properties are branded with the Broadstone name. The company just opened Broadstone Rio in Tempe. The Broadstone Grand, also in Tempe, will open this month, Garshick said.

Garshick said Alliance is bullish on construction in metro Phoenix.

"Phoenix continues to see employment growth and population growth," he said. "We're trying to be responsive to building attractive and desirable communities in the areas where people want to live."
     
     
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Where are all the OxBlue links for all these projects Akara Kinect is the only one I can think of with one. Any others?
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 4, 2020, 3:43 PM
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Where are all the OxBlue links for all these projects Akara Kinect is the only one I can think of with one. Any others?
Link phase 2 has 2 webcams up according to the construction team and I can see them (one is atop Link and 1 is atop Skyline Lofts), but they didn't have the web links and they don't know if they are public cameras. Maybe someone else can have better luck at asking them than I did?

Derby is supposed to get a public webcam up soon according to the onsite forman I spoke with, but I can't remember who the construction company is. I'll keep checking on Derby and post if I find out.

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Nice little media blitz for One Camelback so I guess we will see this one get moving again soon.

Also some news about the vacant lot to the south:https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/news...-apartments-coming-to-camelback-and.html

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It’s been about five years since the office tenants started moving out of an 11-story building on the southeast corner of Central Avenue and Camelback Road. In just over a year, tenants are expected to start moving in to luxury apartments.

During the past 18 months, passersby have noticed the uniquely-shaped BMO Harris bank tower, called One Camelback, being gutted. All the glass and concrete panels were removed from the building's exterior and nothing but an elevator was left inside.

Now a blank canvas, the building's new owners and development team are ready to turn the structure into some of the highest-priced apartments in the Valley.

Originally P.B. Bell Cos. was brought on to develop the apartments in 2015, but things didn’t go as planned. In 2018, the building was sold to its current owners – a group of six buyers including Scottsdale-based investment firm Sagamore Capital LLC – for $14 million.

Charles Dubroff, principal of Sagamore, told the Business Journal he’s been approached about being part of a number of projects, but he wanted to do something he believed was “iconic,” which was behind his involvement with One Camelback.

“The views are absolutely spectacular,” Dubroff said. “I wasn’t scared off about making a significant change, rather than just doing something cosmetic. My goal was to develop something that was special.”

Sagamore brought on Stellar Residential to manage the property. Project financing was arranged by Walker Dunlop and provided by Los Angeles-based Acore Capital LLC. Dubroff declined to say how much the entire project will cost, but in February 2020 Acore provided a mortgage of $56.3 million for the building, according to real estate database Reonomy.

Katerra is the general contractor and prime supplier for the One Camelback project. Construction is expected to be done in the first half of 2021.

The 215,245-square-foot-building will be turned into 163 luxury apartments. Plans call for 16 different floor plans with units ranging from studios to three bedrooms. The project was designed by Erwin Architecture.

Dale Phillips, president and founder of Stellar Residential, told the Business Journal rents would be about $3 per square foot, with its penthouses on floors 10 and 11 going for about $10,0000 a month. That is well above the Valley’s average apartment rent prices.

“We’ll be pushing the ceiling of Phoenix’s rents,” Phillips said.

To charge that much, Phillips knows the units have to offer a lot. Each apartment will have exposed ceilings and floor-to-ceiling windows offering views of Camelback Mountain, downtown Phoenix and South Mountain or of the Valley’s noteworthy sunsets.

Other amenities will include a high-end fitness center, lounge-style clubhouse and a rooftop endless pool with cabanas and a spa. Each unit will have Cox Communications’ 1-Gigabit internet speed included in the rent.

Phillips said he is playing with the idea of having a move-in butler, who would facilitate every part of moving in for the building’s new tenants.

Before the design process, Stellar surveyed people who the company believed would move into such a place asking what was important to them and what would help them decide to move, Phillips said.

Phillips, who has worked in apartments for more than two decades, said his goal is to make something sophisticated and tenant-orientated.

“I’ll have to drive past this every day once its done. I need it to be perfect,” Phillips said. “I don’t want to drive by and think I didn’t put in enough time, effort or thought.”

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Through the entire demolition process, BMO Harris has kept open its bank branch in One Camelback. The bank plans to keep a presence there, but will be undergoing a multimillion-dollar renovation of its space.

Besides the bank, there will be 7,000 square feet of retail space. Phoenix Commercial Advisors is the broker for the space. Dubroff said they want two or three new-to-market restaurants and retailers for the building’s ground floor.

Months following the acquisition of One Camelback in 2018, the ownership group purchased 1.26 acres of vacant land just south of building for $5.75 million.

Dubroff said his group has been approached by three different senior living communities as well as some multifamily developers about the space. He said his group is still deciding what to do there.

“The senior living people think this is an excellent location,” he said. “If we go multifamily, we’ve decided to make our decision a little later so it can gain value from what we are doing at One Camelback – so it can feed off the success of the other.”
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 4, 2020, 5:21 PM
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Nice little media blitz for One Camelback so I guess we will see this one get moving again soon.

Also some news about the vacant lot to the south:https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/news...-apartments-coming-to-camelback-and.html
$10,000 per month for a PH?? not even Optima or Vitri at Scottsdale Quarter have eclipsed that yet. Time will tell but I think this location is inferior to the likes of Oldtown and North Scottsdale/Kierland to pay that much.
     
     
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$10,000 per month for a PH?? not even Optima or Vitri at Scottsdale Quarter have eclipsed that yet. Time will tell but I think this location is inferior to the likes of Oldtown and North Scottsdale/Kierland to pay that much.
Idk larger apartments downtown and in midtown go for 3k some of the big units in LINK are up for 5k-6k

Assuming the apartment is massive, that location in North/Central is extremely wealthy and desirable so given the right amenities, finishes, size and location I dont think a penthouse unit taking up say 1/2 or 1/3 of the top floor would be that crazy.

The Penthouse condo's in Portland on the Park and One Lexington and 44 Monroe sell for well over 1 million.
     
     
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Idk larger apartments downtown and in midtown go for 3k some of the big units in LINK are up for 5k-6k

Assuming the apartment is massive, that location in North/Central is extremely wealthy and desirable so given the right amenities, finishes, size and location I dont think a penthouse unit taking up say 1/2 or 1/3 of the top floor would be that crazy.

The Penthouse condo's in Portland on the Park and One Lexington and 44 Monroe sell for well over 1 million.
I agree. I was going to amend my statement to say "unless these units are 3,000+ sq. feet) that would make more sense and if there are few of them that will drive demand.
     
     
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That's a tough sell. Will need to see income of around $30K/mo to qualify for that rent. I don't know many $350K/yr earners who wouldn't just buy a condo or house. Those who wouldn't are presumably contract workers who anticipate moving to a new location and don't want to "feel tied down" or retirees who don't want the perceived responsibility. I'm sure there could be a corporate renter as well, but this isn't for most people in my opinion.
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That's a tough sell. Will need to see income of around $30K/mo to qualify for that rent. I don't know many $350K/yr earners who wouldn't just buy a condo or house. Those who wouldn't are presumably contract workers who anticipate moving to a new location and don't want to "feel tied down" or retirees who don't want the perceived responsibility. I'm sure there could be a corporate renter as well, but this isn't for most people in my opinion.
I cant imagine it will be more than 2 or 3 units at that price point and there are certainly those kinds of incomes in this area of Phoenix, (and probably many more in the next decade) I think you can find 2 or 3 wealthy individuals/couples out of the 5 million+ residents of the region who would take that option.
     
     
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I'm sure out of a 5+ million Metro, they will find a few takers
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