The Great Canadian Transit Thread

[FrAnKs]

Originally Posted by SkahHigh

Don't think he speaks french

I pushed my luck seriously my brains were set off to write in English this morning, it went much better after I got my coffee

[Dengler Avenue]

Originally Posted by FrAnKs

I rarely do that but I didn't felt to write in English this morning lol Tho I don't think it's too bad these days when there are alot of online translators/technologies lol

You kinda do that with me when I comment in the Quebec subforum. Well fair enough.

Originally Posted by FrAnKs

Oui oui, il y aura 4 voies autoroutières reliées à l'A973 au nord et l'A20 au sud et dans le même tube, tu aura du transport en commun, c'est ce qui a été présenté par le ministère des transports.

De toute façon, on est mieux d'en parler dans le fil des routes québécoises, mais pas dans celui du 3e lien parce que les gens m'ignorent là.

[FrAnKs]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

You kinda do that with me when I comment in the Quebec subforum. Well fair enough.

De toute façon, on est mieux d'en parler dans le fil des routes québécoises, mais pas dans celui du 3e lien parce que les gens m'ignorent là.

Oh sure, because it's the Québec subforum. Other than that, I would not do it.

Are you saying that people are ignoring you ?

[Dengler Avenue]

Well not just in the quebec subforum. The Vancouver one too. Granted sometimes my comments aren't the greatest, but there are als0 times when I do have a genuine question (i.e. about bus frequency in Richmond, B.C., where I used to live) and people ignore me anyway...

On the other hand, in the other subforums, people actually engage me.

[FrAnKs]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

Well not just in the quebec subforum. The Vancouver one too. Granted sometimes my comments aren't the greatest, but there are als0 times when I do have a genuine question (i.e. about bus frequency in Richmond, B.C., where I used to live) and people ignore me anyway...

On the other hand, in the other subforums, people actually engage me.

I'm sure you're a great person, so dont take it personal.

[scryer]

Originally Posted by Nouvellecosse

Absolutely. The Ontario Line will hopefully get built fast enough to take the urgency off the over crowding and lack of inner-city coverage, and hopefully as soon as it opens, another line will start construction. There's no reason why a city/metro area with a constant high level of growth shouldn't continually have large scale transit projects in the works to cope with it. Expecting to build something perfect enough in terms of capacity and function that you're all set for 50 or 100 years and you can just sit back take a break isn't realistic.

A lot of European cities just build additional lines too. Paris is coming to mind here...

And with automated light metros, they are so much easier to extend anyways.

[J.OT13]

A few changes coming to the Confederation Line this year. The City will start accepting applications from performers (buskers) interested in entertaining riders at Confederation Line Stations. No word on which stations will be included, but all have a spot reserved for performers. Programming is expected to start late this spring. Selected performers will not be required to pay fees for permits.

Another improvement coming for riders later this year (no set date), Happy Goat Coffee, who won the retail space leases in September 2019, will start opening kiosk in four stations: Tunney's, Rideau, Hurdman and Blair.

Retail locations within each station can be found on this document:

https://documents.ottawa.ca/sites/documents/files/Lease_en_0.pdf

[SaskOttaLoo]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

A few changes coming to the Confederation Line this year. The City will start accepting applications from performers (buskers) interested in entertaining riders at Confederation Line Stations. No word on which stations will be included, but all have a spot reserved for performers. Programming is expected to start late this spring. Selected performers will not be required to pay fees for permits.

Another improvement coming for riders later this year (no set date), Happy Goat Coffee, who won the retail space leases in September 2019, will start opening kiosk in four stations: Tunney's, Rideau, Hurdman and Blair.

Retail locations within each station can be found on this document:

https://documents.ottawa.ca/sites/documents/files/Lease_en_0.pdf

How Canadian though to issue a single tender for four stations! That guarantees that a larger business will be the only one with the financial means to compete for it, and also means no diversity between stations. It's amazing to me how often government goes out of their way to make it hard on small businesses. I see it all the time - how annoying.

[Truenorth00]

Originally Posted by SaskOttaLoo

How Canadian though to issue a single tender for four stations! That guarantees that a larger business will be the only one with the financial means to compete for it, and also means no diversity between stations. It's amazing to me how often government goes out of their way to make it hard on small businesses. I see it all the time - how annoying.

They are coffee stalls. Hardly very capital intensive. And Happy Goat is not a big business. I'm more than happy they are getting exposure. And it's not Bridgehead or Tim's (like in Toronto's subways).

[Reecemartin]

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[le calmar]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Another improvement coming for riders later this year (no set date), Happy Goat Coffee, who won the retail space leases in September 2019, will start opening kiosk in four stations: Tunney's, Rideau, Hurdman and Blair.

Retail locations within each station can be found on this document:

https://documents.ottawa.ca/sites/documents/files/Lease_en_0.pdf

I wonder how that will work out in winter though? They say the Tunneys Pasture's kiosk is sheltered from the elements but I don't get that impression from the rendering.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by le calmar

I wonder how that will work out in winter though? They say the Tunneys Pasture's kiosk is sheltered from the elements but I don't get that impression from the rendering.

I'm wondering the same thing. Strong gusts of wind could easily hit the Tunney's and Hurdman locations. The Tunney's kiosk could be subject to snow and rain, when angled towards it. Blair is pretty much enclosed, but the cold will still come down from the stair opening. Rideau is the only one that will not be effected by bad weather in any way, though the underground stations can still get very cold in winter.

Random question now that I think of it, how cold does it get in other Canadian underground/subway stations? At the other extreme, how hot does it get? We haven't experienced summer yet.

[p_xavier]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

I'm wondering the same thing. Strong gusts of wind could easily hit the Tunney's and Hurdman locations. The Tunney's kiosk could be subject to snow and rain, when angled towards it. Blair is pretty much enclosed, but the cold will still come down from the stair opening. Rideau is the only one that will not be effected by bad weather in any way, though the underground stations can still get very cold in winter.

Random question now that I think of it, how cold does it get in other Canadian underground/subway stations? At the other extreme, how hot does it get? We haven't experienced summer yet.

Montreal stations go from warm to cooking. There are dozens of overheating cases each day, nearly twice in Winter than Summer because people seldomly remove their jackets.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by p_xavier

Montreal stations go from warm to cooking. There are dozens of overheating cases each day, nearly twice in Winter than Summer because people seldomly remove their jackets.

I don't think I have ever been cold in a Montreal métro station.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

I'm wondering the same thing. Strong gusts of wind could easily hit the Tunney's and Hurdman locations. The Tunney's kiosk could be subject to snow and rain, when angled towards it. Blair is pretty much enclosed, but the cold will still come down from the stair opening. Rideau is the only one that will not be effected by bad weather in any way, though the underground stations can still get very cold in winter.

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It's not optimal I agree, but if they can operate beaver tail, hot dog and café stands in the great outdoors on the Rideau Canal and in the Byward Market, they should be OK.

[Chadillaccc]

Originally Posted by p_xavier

Montreal stations go from warm to cooking. There are dozens of overheating cases each day, nearly twice in Winter than Summer because people seldomly remove their jackets.

It's because Montreal's system is almost entirely underground. Ottawa's is only underground for a couple kilometers, so the fresh cold air gets in really easy. I've always found myself really cold in TTC underground stations though, so maybe that's not the explanation and Montreal just has a better heating system?

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by Acajack

It's not optimal I agree, but if they can operate beaver tail, hot dog and café stands in the great outdoors on the Rideau Canal and in the Byward Market, they should be OK.

Depends how the build the kiosks I guess. The ones that stay open all year are mostly enclosed other than the window. Looking forward to seeing how it works.

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

It's because Montreal's system is almost entirely underground. Ottawa's is only underground for a couple kilometers, so the fresh cold air gets in really easy. I've always found myself really cold in TTC underground stations though, so maybe that's not the explanation and Montreal just has a better heating system?

I figured as much for Montréal. Although TTC is mostly underground, it does have above ground stretches. Those couple openings might make a fairly significant difference. In addition the open sidewalk stairs might contribute to cooling them down.

How's Westbrook Station?

[begratto]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

It's because Montreal's system is almost entirely underground. Ottawa's is only underground for a couple kilometers, so the fresh cold air gets in really easy. I've always found myself really cold in TTC underground stations though, so maybe that's not the explanation and Montreal just has a better heating system?

Actually, the Montreal métro doesn't have a heating system. The heat produced by the trains is sufficient to warm the stations to a comfortable level.

[Nouvellecosse]

Also, the metro having rubber tyres generates more heat due to friction than steel wheels.

[CityTech]

Also Toronto's stations are generally shallower than Montreal's. I'm sure that makes a difference in temperature.