YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion - Page 752

nname · #**15021** Posted **Feb 16, 2020, 8:23 PM**

Seems like DL is making YVR-ATL daily year-round.

UA increased YVR-IAD to 3x weekly during summer (from 1x weekly)

s211 · #**15022** Posted **Feb 16, 2020, 9:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

It took you that long!? Only have to read the drivel when someone quotes him.

Heck no. I put him on my ignore list immediately after he started visiting the YVR thread. I still have to live with others quoting his posts.

CloudInspector · #**15023** Posted **Feb 16, 2020, 9:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by nname

Seems like DL is making YVR-ATL daily year-round

SLC is also going double daily in May. Seems like a good result of the pending WS JV.

casper · #**15024** Posted **Feb 16, 2020, 10:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by trofirhen

Yes. Thank you, sir. That is absolute, as Glen Korström implied in the recent BIV article on Seattle. A game-changer would be a flight to South America like YVR-GRU or YVR-LIMA.

Exactly the region is growing dramatically and the airport in Seattle is not going to be able to meet the needs of the region.

This is no different that New York where no one airport can meet the needs of the region.

casper · #**15025** Posted **Feb 16, 2020, 10:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

That's my point... going forward if DL and AA both want to develop large intl hubs out of SEA where are these flights going to park? The airport is facing constraints now... runway capacity, taxiway capacity, gate capacity and apron capacity... how much more can it handle? In order for SEA to really lift its game it needs to seriously look at its footprint and deal with it. Not one additional gate is in the pipeline... how can it grow international operations significantly without additional gates?

And even if SEA more than doubled its current intl operations it would still be less than YVR's total. Simple maths. 13.7 million vs 5.7 million. And a city that is stronger economically and much larger... I also doubt SEA is big enough for both an AA and A DL hub... will be fun to see what happens... hard to understand for some I suppose. I suppose one chimes in the other isn't too far behind... as predictable as the tides... face plant!

SEA will probably stay an Alaska and Delta hub. AA will likely a half dozen international flights that use feed from Alaska.

I agree expansion is going to be limited. SEA is already remote stands. Alaska is running flight out of a second Seattle airport. This will likely become a slot controlled airport in the not to distant future.

Johnny Aussie · #**15026** Posted **Feb 17, 2020, 1:37 AM**

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Originally Posted by nname

Seems like DL is making YVR-ATL daily year-round.

UA increased YVR-IAD to 3x weekly during summer (from 1x weekly)

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Originally Posted by CloudInspector

SLC is also going double daily in May. Seems like a good result of the pending WS JV.

And DL going daily year-round to JFK starting this spring. So all up DL will have 12 daily flights this summer. 13 on Saturdays and Sundays. Split 6 daily Mainline and 6 daily DL Connection. Ironically the only route seeing a cut is YVR-SEA being cut to 6 daily from 7 (was actually planned to be 8). Not a bad result for DL at YVR. They’ve also dumped YEG and YYJ from SEA and YYC was reduced so not sure how well they’re doing with that hub from a Canadian connections point of view.

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Originally Posted by s211

Heck no. I put him on my ignore list immediately after he started visiting the YVR thread. I still have to live with others quoting his posts.

“Visiting” is a very polite way to put it. Adds zero value... actually negative value to this thread.

CloudInspector · #**15027** Posted **Feb 17, 2020, 4:05 AM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

And DL going daily year-round to JFK starting this spring. So all up DL will have 12 daily flights this summer. 13 on Saturdays and Sundays. Split 6 daily Mainline and 6 daily DL Connection. Ironically the only route seeing a cut is YVR-SEA being cut to 6 daily from 7 (was actually planned to be 8). Not a bad result for DL at YVR. They’ve also dumped YEG and YYJ from SEA and YYC was reduced so not sure how well they’re doing with that hub from a Canadian connections point of view.

It seems like with the WS/DL JV, WS is doing the flying from YYC to DL hubs and DL is handling the YVR flying, that’s interesting. I wonder if encore will start YVR-SEA/PDX in the near future?

Johnny Aussie · #**15028** Posted **Feb 17, 2020, 4:17 AM**

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Originally Posted by CloudInspector

It seems like with the WS/DL JV, WS is doing the flying from YYC to DL hubs and DL is handling the YVR flying, that’s interesting. I wonder if encore will start YVR-SEA/PDX in the near future?

Certainly moreso yes. From YYC to DL hubs:

DL: MSP, SLC, SEA
WS: JFK, ATL

s211 · #**15029** Posted **Feb 17, 2020, 5:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by nname

Seems like DL is making YVR-ATL daily year-round.

Dang. I know Atlanta is a Delta hub, but ever since Delta began refusing lounge access to business class travellers on flights to Canada or Mexico, they lost my business.

connect2source · #**15030** Posted **Feb 17, 2020, 6:05 PM**

Every so often I read the Skytrax reviews of YVR and they're typically pretty favourable but lately they've been nothing short of horrific. I know Skytrax isn't all that respected but being a frequent YVR visitor I have to agree with most of the comments regarding, terrible food options, very long waits for luggage, ever-growing security delays including NEXUS, bizarre and super-slow and inefficient immigration process, terrible flow and very longs walks to gates from security point in the international terminal.

YVR was once so respected but other international gateways are improving quickly and YVR seems stuck in the past.

Here's a link to the latest reviews on Skytrax.

https://www.airlinequality.com/airport-reviews/vancouver-airport/page/1/

TheGreatestX · #**15031** Posted **Feb 19, 2020, 3:32 AM**

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Originally Posted by connect2source

Every so often I read the Skytrax reviews of YVR and they're typically pretty favourable but lately they've been nothing short of horrific. I know Skytrax isn't all that respected but being a frequent YVR visitor I have to agree with most of the comments regarding, terrible food options, very long waits for luggage, ever-growing security delays including NEXUS, bizarre and super-slow and inefficient immigration process, terrible flow and very longs walks to gates from security point in the international terminal.

YVR was once so respected but other international gateways are improving quickly and YVR seems stuck in the past.

Here's a link to the latest reviews on Skytrax.

https://www.airlinequality.com/airport-reviews/vancouver-airport/page/1/

I actually missed a connection (HKG-YVR-YEG) because I waited so long for my bag.

whatnext · #**15032** Posted **Feb 19, 2020, 4:10 AM**

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Originally Posted by connect2source

Every so often I read the Skytrax reviews of YVR and they're typically pretty favourable but lately they've been nothing short of horrific. I know Skytrax isn't all that respected but being a frequent YVR visitor I have to agree with most of the comments regarding, terrible food options, very long waits for luggage, ever-growing security delays including NEXUS, bizarre and super-slow and inefficient immigration process, terrible flow and very longs walks to gates from security point in the international terminal.

YVR was once so respected but other international gateways are improving quickly and YVR seems stuck in the past.

Here's a link to the latest reviews on Skytrax.

https://www.airlinequality.com/airport-reviews/vancouver-airport/page/1/

Other than the wait for bags I don't agree with a lot of that.

casper · #**15033** Posted **Feb 19, 2020, 4:34 AM**

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Originally Posted by whatnext

Other than the wait for bags I don't agree with a lot of that.

Some of it is legitimate and will become worse over time. I use to be based out of Victoria a few years ago.

The hike from WestJet Encore to US departures is a long walk. If your coming in from Victoria and making a US connection it takes a good long time.

I have arrived off the Heathrow flight trying to may an onward connection and between people handing out cards and redirection it is confusing. I think they tried to clean some of that up.

There are a few widebody gates on the domestic side that simply lack adequate seating for the size of the aircraft. Common problem with many airports. The airlines have all switched to larger aircraft. 737-800 replacing what a decade ago was a 737-200/400 or A321 replacing an A319. The airlines have also taken away waiting space to build these mazes of line-ups for Zone 1 to 5.

YVR has done better than most at adapting but as it keeps growing the length of a walk is going to increase. They are to big for everything to be central but to small to have air side people movers.

They do get five stars for looking good, plants and art work.

Alexcaban · #**15034** Posted **Feb 19, 2020, 5:07 AM**

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Originally Posted by whatnext

Other than the wait for bags I don't agree with a lot of that.

The hell that is rolling a 4 wheel roller bag at YVR, the carpet needs to go..... other then that YVR is a great airport.

Will be even better when 49th Parallel Coffee opens near gate 30.

dharper · #**15035** Posted **Feb 19, 2020, 7:00 AM**

Is Qantas going to cancel the nonstop YVR-SYD flight next December-January, after the retire their 747 fleet? I can't find any info regarding the future of that flight, nor find it available to book.

Ozabald · #**15036** Posted **Feb 19, 2020, 2:47 PM**

I would agree that YVR has lost some of its shine. The food and beverage options are rather lacking. Only one full-service restaurant in the international departures area. Surprisingly, one Canadian airport which outperforms YVR on food & beverage is YEG; which has seven full-service sit-down dining options post security in the domestic/international area.

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Originally Posted by connect2source

Every so often I read the Skytrax reviews of YVR and they're typically pretty favourable but lately they've been nothing short of horrific. I know Skytrax isn't all that respected but being a frequent YVR visitor I have to agree with most of the comments regarding, terrible food options, very long waits for luggage, ever-growing security delays including NEXUS, bizarre and super-slow and inefficient immigration process, terrible flow and very longs walks to gates from security point in the international terminal.

YVR was once so respected but other international gateways are improving quickly and YVR seems stuck in the past.

Here's a link to the latest reviews on Skytrax.

https://www.airlinequality.com/airport-reviews/vancouver-airport/page/1/

casper · #**15037** Posted **Feb 19, 2020, 2:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by dharper

Is Qantas going to cancel the nonstop YVR-SYD flight next December-January, after the retire their 747 fleet? I can't find any info regarding the future of that flight, nor find it available to book.

I believe the idea was floated by them that it would be an ideal route for the 787 when they were ordering that aircraft. Several years ago, times change so no idea where it stands now.

Denscity · #**15038** Posted **Feb 19, 2020, 3:36 PM**

YVR is adding a whole bunch of new food and beverage options so don't worry about that. And which airports have way better f n b options?

Ozabald · #**15039** Posted **Feb 19, 2020, 4:00 PM**

In Canada, YEG, YYZ (Terminal 3) and YUL for sure. US West Coast: PDX, SJC, SMF and perhaps SEA (once their F&B refresh is completed).

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Originally Posted by Denscity

YVR is adding a whole bunch of new food and beverage options so don't worry about that. And which airports have way better f n b options?

SpongeG · #**15040** Posted **Feb 20, 2020, 6:30 PM**

Edmonton's airport food options are awful. YVR international is good, domestic is ok. We could use a McDonalds though.

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I flew in on WestJet on tuesday, they have installed those new glass door exits on the WestJet side now, you need to go through them to go to the baggage claim area from the gate areas. It was all open the last time I flew with WestJet in December.