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Originally Posted by Ich
Im pretty surprised myself about the anti-development logic and those who kick and scream in defending it. It seems like rather selfish standpoint to take. Not only are you insistent on overriding individuals property rights, you without care influence market forces that increases land/ property costs. This whole I got mine so I am good mentality is pretty lame. When it comes to Five Points specifically, that stance becomes evermore absurd. Its a neighborhood that literally borders the CBD and yet some think that none of that should encroach on their emotional ties to the current state of the neighborhood. A neighborhood in which many of you helped gentrify (without care) and drastically drove up real estate costs. 15 years ago that was considered the ghetto of Denver and now we want to "preserve" the character of the neighborhood. Capital Hill and Cheeseman Park are both neighborhood where SFH, historical mansions, tall towers, row homes, and mid rise buildings coexist just fine. Its also one of the more affordable and diverse neighborhoods in central Denver. No one is advocating razing all of Curtis Park and building on top of it. If 3 of your neighbors decide to exercise their right to sell their property to a developer, then they should have that right. And if a developer want to build a mid rise on THEIR land, your irrelevant emotional stance should not impede that. If you want restriction and uniformity then move to Stapleton where you can live in a covenant controlled neighborhood. The ignorance on seeing how arguments like these drive up real estate cost speaks volumes around your intentions. Affordability within Denver is a very real problem and I don't believe we can stop it from rising but we can do things level it off.
We would agree global warming is an issue, yet your fights and policies advocate sprawl. But then you don't want to build more highways. You want more affordable housing but oh just not in my neighborhood. You want better transit, just to serve your preserved inner city SFH neighborhood. You hate parking and want minimums but just not in your neighborhood because then where will your visitors park? We should build more housing just somewhere else. Why not the multi million dollar lots downtown, I don't understand it? See they only build luxury homes on those. Thats what s driving up cost not because all the SFH neighborhoods protest any development... Its really narrow minded argument lol
When you do not open up land (developed or not) then you drive up the cost of the land that is. So yes there is infill space in Denver BUT because you selected or narrowed it down to specific sites, they get expensive.
Im sure none of this will mean much to you as you don't care much about any of the points above. You just want things your way.  |
Just a FYI... Stapleton is not really "covenant controlled". It does have a master HOA that is primarily there to take care of HOA parks/pools/parkways, take care of the HOA owned alleys, and put on events. All major rules and policies concerning properties are based off the City of Denver. You can paint your house pink if you want without approval and do whatever you want to your property-owned landscaping without approval. I added a balcony to my 2nd floor on my last Stapleton house and they told me I didn't need approval as long as the city approved it. Sub HOAs for things like townhomes are different, but that is the same in the rest of Denver. The farthest the HOA may go is remind a resident that they need to pull their 3 foot weeds or move a basketball hoop out of the way in the alley, but even that usually gets to the city as a complaint.
...and Stapleton is NOT uniform. I realize this is hard to believe for some that are stuck on the fact it's a new masterplanned development. You have all types of architecture (mega modern, simple modern, traditional, tudor, victorian, mediterranean, lofts, etc, etc, etc.) throughout the neighborhood and scattered for diversity (SF, townhomes, condos, apartments also often co-exist next to each other) -- with over 20 builders over its existence with far more than 100 different types of SF, townhome, condo, apartment, live-work, loft housing. If anything, older neighborhoods in Denver (Congress Park, Wash Park, etc) are more uniform with a lot of the same Denver Squares and bungalow styles over and over again (which is not so bad either). Also, things like separate dwellings above detached alley garages are already allowed and zoned in Stapleton....along with the residential areas being zoned RMU or CMU. In fact, I would bet that land in Stapleton would be approved for a multi-family building that previously has/had 3 houses on it ...before a lot of other older/central neighborhoods with the same scenario.
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