Where Is The Rust Belt?

[iheartthed]

Originally Posted by pj3000

So you're telling me that Parliament meets at the Capitol in Ottawa?

Does the Queen live there too?

I think capitol is an American English specific word, even though it can easily be applied to parliament buildings in other countries.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by pj3000

No, silly. The House of Representatives... it's part of the US Congress. They meet in the US Capitol in the capital, Washington DC, just like Canadian Congress meets in the Canadian Capitol, but not in the Candian capital (which is Toronto).

I was just making a point by using the terminology of another country to refer to institutions of another country. Which is exactly what you're doing.

Canada doesn't have a Congress either BTW. Nor do we have states or state governors.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by iheartthed

I think capitol is an American English specific word, even though it can easily be applied to parliament buildings in other countries.

Yes, in the sense that "the Reichstag is Germany's equivalent to the U.S. Capitol".

But the Reichstag is not the or a Capitol in any way shape or form.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by pj3000

So you're telling me that Parliament meets at the Capitol in Ottawa?

No the Parliament meets in Parliament. We have no Capitol as I said.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by pj3000

Does the Queen live there too?

No, but her representative, the Governor General, does. (In Ottawa, not in the Parliament Buildings specifically.)

[pj3000]

Guys...

I'm sorry

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by pj3000

Guys...

I'm sorry

And I haven't even started Canucksplaining Quebec yet!

[suburbanite]

We have 40,000+ posts of that. Please have mercy.

[pj3000]

Originally Posted by Acajack

And I haven't even started Canucksplaining Quebec yet!

I do apologize for the time waste... I was just relishing my chance to play the role of stupid American

[iheartthed]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Yes, in the sense that "the Reichstag is Germany's equivalent to the U.S. Capitol".

But the Reichstag is not the or a Capitol in any way shape or form.

Lowercase capitol isn't necessarily the U.S. Capitol. Uppercase Capitol is always the U.S. Capitol. Lowercase "capitol" can be any legislative building in the United States.

[pj3000]

I know that Cuba and Colombia both have a Capitolio.

[GreaterMontréal]

Provinces are like countries inside a country. They have trade wars between them. And, things rust here too.

[iheartthed]

Originally Posted by pj3000

I do apologize for the time waste... I was just relishing my chance to play the role of stupid American

Canadians and Brits frequently call the Capitol a "parliament" building, so... whatevs.

[pj3000]

Anyway, back to the previous topic before I completely derailed the discussion I myself started...

Here's a kinda interesting look at the Toronto-Buffalo stuff:

That time when Buffalo was as big a deal as Toronto

https://www.blogto.com/city/2016/05/that_time_when_buffalo_was_as_big_a_deal_as_toronto/

[pj3000]

Originally Posted by GreaterMontréal

Provinces are like countries inside a country. They have trade wars between them. And, things rust here too.

I've been to Montreal 3 times since summer 2017... still pretty rusty... in a good way.

[suburbanite]

Someone before was right though. Buffalo, and Cleveland to a lesser extent, feature a remarkable lack of brick in their housing stock compared to other Rust Belt/Midwest cities.

Toronto is red brick through and through.

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by suburbanite

Someone before was right though. Buffalo, and Cleveland to a lesser extent, feature a remarkable lack of brick in their housing stock compared to other Rust Belt/Midwest cities.

Toronto is red brick through and through.

milwaukee is also very heavy on the wood frame in its residential vernacular.

buffalo and milwaukee are very similar bookend cities at opposite ends of the great lakes.

[pj3000]

Originally Posted by suburbanite

Someone before was right though. Buffalo, and Cleveland to a lesser extent, feature a remarkable lack of brick in their housing stock compared to other Rust Belt/Midwest cities.

Toronto is red brick through and through.

Didn't Toronto have a major fire, and like Chicago, turned to brick for construction in the city?

This is one of those topics we've touched on many times.

I think you'll find more wood frame/stick home construction in more northern locales, emanating from New England and pushing west; and more brick home construction as you go south in latitude, emanating from Philly, Baltimore and continuing through the southern half of PA to Pittsburgh and west via the Ohio Valley to Saint Louis. Pennsylvania cities and towns are a mix... generally, south of I-80 cities' and towns' houses are more brick (but this is not a hard and fast rule by any means, because there's plenty of cities/towns in the southern half of the state which are mainly wood frame/stick construction) and north of I-80 are more wood frame. A weird place like Erie, which is a mix of Great Lakes and Western Pennsylvania is probably about half and half in the older neighborhoods in the city.

[suburbanite]

There was a fire, but nowhere near the scale of Chicago's. It mostly took out commercial buildings in what is now the CBD. I don't know if there's any record of a conscious decision to switch building materials because of it.

Small-town Ontario is also very brick heavy though. Although it's a lot more of that beige brick that you also don't really see a lot of in the closest American Rust Belt cities. There are entire towns that almost solely consist of it.

Seaforth:



Love Kincardine as well, and if you take a quick walk down here theres a whole street of houses with the same.

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.1768248,...dWJD2-FwJJ-VpUw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

I immediately noticed it the first time I went to Chicago. Couldn't put my finger on it at the start but realized it was the only other place I'd been with as much beige brick as some of the small towns I spent a lot of summers in growing up.

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by suburbanite

I immediately noticed it the first time I went to Chicago. Couldn't put my finger on it at the start but realized it was the only other place I'd been with as much beige brick as some of the small towns I spent a lot of summers in growing up.

that's funny, i don't think of chicago as having a lot in the way of beige brick.

i mean, you can definitely find it here and there, but we have orders of magnitude more Brown, red, and yellow face brick (that was imported from other places with better clay), and of course the orangey-yellowish-brownish mottled "chicago common brick" that adorns the non-street facades of just about every single vintage masonry building in the city.