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I am very very confident the CAQ/Legault will get a second mandate, so looking good for Gatineau too.
Gatineau will be treated well by the CAQ. It's historically overwhelmingly PLQ territory (even now, it's their main pocket outside of Montreal), and swung to the CAQ just enough to be politically valuable, but not so hard as to be taken for granted.
     
     
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And byte’s the most misleading because 1GB is not 1 000 000 000 (9 zeros) bytes but 1 073 741 824 bytes...
You're describing a GiB and not a GB ;-)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/searchstorage.techtarget.com/definition/gibibyte-GiB%3famp=1
     
     
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Edmonton folks, I know trains are testing on the Valley Line any videos?

Not that i've seen so far....I will post if I find.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 2, 2020, 5:35 PM
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This is very good news.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/st...3teTVvcqzSxjapVDjVEO9YsGGaypJxwgDnTHTOf0

STO confirms Gatineau will get light rail
     
     
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This is very good news.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/st...3teTVvcqzSxjapVDjVEO9YsGGaypJxwgDnTHTOf0

STO confirms Gatineau will get light rail
Don’t believe it until you’re using it yourself.

If this actually becomes a thing though, I really wonder how it should be connected to the O Lines. We’ve been debating this to death but I’m not sure what the consensus is.
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Don’t believe it until you’re using it yourself.

If this actually becomes a thing though, I really wonder how it should be connected to the O Lines. We’ve been debating this to death but I’m not sure what the consensus is.
I would like the connection to be underground and smooth so that transferring between the two lines isn't a big deal.
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Don’t believe it until you’re using it yourself.

If this actually becomes a thing though, I really wonder how it should be connected to the O Lines. We’ve been debating this to death but I’m not sure what the consensus is.
I don't believe anything till it is in operation.

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I would like the connection to be underground and smooth so that transferring between the two lines isn't a big deal.
After crossing the Portage bridge, is there a smooth way to go underground? If not, isn't those stations above ground, in a trench, so just going down to that grade would be enough?
     
     
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I would like the connection to be underground and smooth so that transferring between the two lines isn't a big deal.
Bringing it underground to Parliament seems the best for network optimization and perhaps cheapest long term since it would prevent needing to add too much capacity. How many people per hour would you suspect the line will be delivering?
     
     
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Bringing it underground to Parliament seems the best for network optimization and perhaps cheapest long term since it would prevent needing to add too much capacity. How many people per hour would you suspect the line will be delivering?
There are around 60,000 people commuters traveling between Ottawa and Gatineau each day. At the moment, about 3,000 are coming from Gatineau to Ottawa at rush hour. They estimate 7,500 once the Gatineau Tramway is built.

If we use the 7,500 figure, that would be around 2,500-3,000 at peak, compared to 10,000 for the Confederation Line. I would assume around 1,000 at peak would travel from Ottawa to Gatineau using the Tramway.

One big question is whether or not buses will continue to cross the bridge considering the east end of Gatineau will continue to be served by the RapiBus, though it seems Ottawa is very keen on riding itself of all STO buses from its downtown streets, so it's likely RapiBus users will be forced to transfer to get to Ottawa.

Considering the 60,000 who cross the bridge each day. the 3,000-7,500 (Gatineau to Ottawa only) seems low, but we have to consider Ottawa-Gatineau's very decentralized employment hubs, requiring a car for any commute done within a reasonable amount of time. That might change once Stage 2 is open in Ottawa and the Tramway opens in Gatineau; it will make Tunney's Pasture, Confederation Heights and the Universities much more accessible.

For now, terminating at Lyon will suffice, though I do hope we keep the option of extending to Parliament and beyond to the Market for an eventual loop around downtown using the Alexandra Bridge replacement.
     
     
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If we use the 7,500 figure, that would be around 2,500-3,000 at peak, compared to 10,000 for the Confederation Line. I would assume around 1,000 at peak would travel from Ottawa to Gatineau using the Tramway.


A small but important correction: the STO estimates that ridership will be 7500 people per hour at peak, not total per peak period. They're estimating a need for 25 trams per hour at peak, or one every 2.5 minutes.

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Des données diffusées par la STO précisent que le nombre d’usagers qui traverseront le pont du Portage aux heures de pointe passera de 3500 à 7500 à l’heure d’ici 15 ans. Pour desservir une telle clientèle, il faudrait faire traverser à Ottawa 170 autobus réguliers à l’heure ou 105 autobus articulés.
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A small but important correction: the STO estimates that ridership will be 7500 people per hour at peak, not total per peak period. They're estimating a need for 25 trams per hour at peak, or one every 2.5 minutes.



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How many cross now? Work with those numbers, but prepare for the numbers skyrocketing. As I understand it, housing is cheaper across the river.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 4, 2020, 8:04 PM
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How many cross now? Work with those numbers, but prepare for the numbers skyrocketing. As I understand it, housing is cheaper across the river.
Not so sure. It's not *that* hard to cross from Gatineau into downtown Ottawa at the moment anyway.

There might be some additional growth, but the barriers that prevent more people from settling on this side of the river will remain.
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A small but important correction: the STO estimates that ridership will be 7500 people per hour at peak, not total per peak period. They're estimating a need for 25 trams per hour at peak, or one every 2.5 minutes.



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Thanks for that. That would make the peak ridership nearly as high as the Confederation Line. I'd be worried about eventual capacity issues considering trains would already be running at just about max frequency.
     
     
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Thanks for that. That would make the peak ridership nearly as high as the Confederation Line. I'd be worried about eventual capacity issues considering trains would already be running at just about max frequency.
In other words, the line was not built for the future capacity?
     
     
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In other words, the line was not built for the future capacity?
Based on the numbers, I'm wondering if the Gatineau Line might be running near max capacity from day 1. The Confederation Line's current 10,000 capacity can go up to 24,000+.
     
     
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Not sure if anyone has posted this picture yet, recently released by the STM. Shows approximate locations of the 5 new stations and other infrastructure the extension encompasses

[IMG]http://www.stm.info/sites/default/files/media/Travaux/Ligne_bleue/19817_22_plan_plb_avec_pd-ang.pdf[/IMG]

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Winnipeg's BRT Phase 2

Hey guys,

Just a short video showing Winnipeg's BRT Phase 2 set to open in April 2020:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...ideo-1.5452159
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