Atlanta Project Thread IV - Page 224

ATLmangum · #**4461** Posted **Jan 14, 2020, 8:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by robertjhajek

I know this place is called skyscraper page, but my personal favorite neighborhoods in most cities are mid rise areas. The west and east villages, capitol hill in Seattle, travis heights in austin, lodo in denver, etc.

Let’s use our brains here folks...most undeveloped lots in Midtown are huge, which is why you see a lot of mid 20’s development. The smaller lots where it makes sense to go more vertical are happening (Opus, 1138, the one next to Regiona at WPtree). We just have to be patient and as more of the larger parcels get developed, we will see more height on the smaller left over lots. 14th and Spring is a prime example.

GeorgiaPeanuts · #**4462** Posted **Jan 14, 2020, 8:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by ATLmangum

Let’s use our brains here folks...most undeveloped lots in Midtown are huge, which is why you see a lot of mid 20’s development. The smaller lots where it makes sense to go more vertical are happening (Opus, 1138, the one next to Regiona at WPtree). We just have to be patient and as more of the larger parcels get developed, we will see more height on the smaller left over lots. 14th and Spring is a prime example.

FAR is a ratio of the size of the lot. It doesn’t matter if you have a huge lot or small lot. In fact I would bet it is easier to go taller on a big lot because you can develop more of it not very tall or not at all like the large gardens around One Atlantic Center, whereas a small lot you need all the floor space on each floor you can get. This is why the tallest buildings in Midtown all have large areas around them with gardens or one to two story buildings

Atlriser · #**4463** Posted **Jan 14, 2020, 10:24 PM**

Well said, I still don’t understand why this discussion continues to come up. FAR is also determined by the city in relation to the amount of services the city can provide in an area such as sewer, water, roads, police, fire, etc. FAR is not a function of need or land prices.

Several keep saying “when midtown runs out of empty lots.” That’s not gonna happen. There is plenty of underutilized land that is 1, 2 and 3 stories all over midtown that can and should be redeveloped when the need arises. There is plenty of land.

ATLMidcity · #**4464** Posted **Jan 14, 2020, 11:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by DNR

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What happens if the cost of the land in Midtown exceeds the threshold in which a 20-story building no longer makes economic sense?

As the FAR guidelines continue to restrict the higher density development of the available land, my guess is that all the suitable vacant lots will
continue to evaporate. When this happens, the only land left will require more significant demolition on top of the ever increasing land costs which will only exacerbate the pressure on any guide line that restricts a more appropriate level of density.

I imagine the FAR was developed at a time when this much explosive growth in Midtown was unforeseen. Should there be more pressure for the guide lines to be revamped given the extreme pace of land development?

It would seem that the more restrictive Midtown guidelines may ultimately push development along the fringes where higher density development is not suitable – and not welcome.

Downtown will be waiting and ready to absorb the overflow... And I for one, can't wait until Midtown reaches this breaking point.

Midtown's development trend has slowly leapfrogged southward towards North Avenue. We can now see development happening in SoNo. Downtown is waiting with open arms.

smArTaLlone · #**4465** Posted **Jan 15, 2020, 12:25 AM**

AtlHeel · #**4466** Posted **Jan 15, 2020, 1:15 AM**

thanks so much! I really like the changes they're proposing. love the 'scallops'!

cabasse · #**4467** Posted **Jan 15, 2020, 1:31 AM**

love it! interesting texture/colors - something different for sure.

ATLmangum · #**4468** Posted **Jan 15, 2020, 1:52 AM**

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Originally Posted by smArTaLlone

This is to good to be true...it will never happen. This decades version of Eviva.

cabasse · #**4469** Posted **Jan 15, 2020, 1:59 AM**

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Originally Posted by ATLmangum

This is to good to be true...it will never happen. This decades version of Eviva.

they can't all be evivae

ATLMidcity · #**4470** Posted **Jan 15, 2020, 2:31 AM**

Now that's a beauty.

It blends soooooo well with the surrounding buildings.

Please build this pronto!

How many floors is 1138 Peachtree supposed to be?

jpk1292000 · #**4471** Posted **Jan 15, 2020, 2:49 AM**

Friggin gorgeous!

atlantaguy · #**4472** Posted **Jan 15, 2020, 5:40 AM**

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Originally Posted by ATLmangum

This is to good to be true...it will never happen. This decades version of Eviva.

It's not wise to underestimate what we are capable of here.

robertjhajek · #**4473** Posted **Jan 15, 2020, 3:09 PM**

Aren't permits moving quickly on this?

smArTaLlone · #**4474** Posted **Jan 15, 2020, 9:07 PM**

Campanile - 1155 Peachtree Street

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The first DRC meeting of 2020 began with a project that dates back over three decades. Originally built in 1987 as the headquarters for BellSouth, the 21-story Campanile building anchors a prominent corner on Peachtree Street and is undergoing a major renovation and expansion in the hands of Dewberry Group and Smallwood. Dewberry purchased the building in 2010 and last year began a dramatic makeover of the façade that will result in a sleeker profile and expanded square footage in a six-story, 125,000 SF office and retail podium around the base of the tower. In the podium, new floors will align with the existing floors of the office tower to create office floor plates of approximately 45,000 SF. Ground floor spaces are intended for retail tenants that will activate the street and add vitality to the neighborhood. New terraces on levels 4 and 6 will provide sweeping views and outdoor amenity spaces for office tenants. The Development Review Committee (DRC) was unanimous in its support for the striking update to the building which will be clad in white marble and charcoal-gray curtain wall with ultra-clear glass. Comments and questions from the committee focused the intended design for the generous public space in front of the main entrance and on details related to the streetscape on all four sides of the block.

DRC recommendations:

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Revise plans for 13th Street to provide on-street parking and a wider sidewalk that more closely meets Midtown’s streetscape standards.
Next steps: The committee requested more info on the public space in front of the main entrance and streetscape details and expects Dewberry to return when plans are further developed for the public space

1138 Peachtree Street

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Next up was Trillist with plans to build a 46-story residential tower at 1138 Peachtree Street. This nearly one-acre site has seen several development proposals over the years, including a Mandarin Oriental hotel and residences dating back to 2007. The current project has been in the works since 2013 and includes 317 luxury apartments and approximately 10,000 SF of ground floor retail space with frontage along both Peachtree Street and Crescent Avenue. There is a 9-level podium parking deck with 450 spaces.

The DRC’s comments focused on two main aspects of the project:

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The Crescent Avenue elevation of the parking deck
The zoning requirement for a dedicated pedestrian connection between Peachtree and Crescent Avenue.
While the north and south façades of the parking deck will be clad in a synthetic stucco panel system, Smallwood presented a concept for the west façade that uses a mesh fabric to camouflage the parking levels. The committee had questions about the durability of the material and its effectiveness at preventing light spillage at night. Further, the retail space within the ground floor of the Crescent frontage does not meet minimum depth requirements, nor does the elevation meet requirements which specify the appearance of a horizontally storied building for the first three floors. The second aspect of the project that remains unresolved is the required pedestrian walkway to provide access through the superblock and valuable connectivity between Peachtree Street and Crescent Avenue.