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Old Posted Dec 23, 2019, 7:39 PM
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Happy to see property development, but I would love to see it better integrated with the historic property, taking cues from its architectural flairs. There's an example of this right across the highway in the Turner Broadcasting Headquarters, which used while columns and brick to complement the architecture of the original country club building that they built around.



Given the renderings and Portman's history, it's not likely, but one can hope.
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2019, 7:41 PM
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See Coda reortman and making a design that will honor the historic property remaining. I do hope they at least build to the lot line like the hotel next door did for the 10th street frontage. There are not many examples of that happening in Midtown, and it is a rare opportunity where it could be done with a wall of building flanking that whole 10st stretch
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2019, 9:48 PM
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Over the years, many architects and city planners have been critical of Portman’s architecture and of Portman Holdings.  Nonetheless, Portman was highly influential in transforming downtown ATL,   introducing the atrium lobby to high rise hotels, and quite frankly delivering on ideas and promises.  No Opus## and other lost causes for this organization.   Better a delivery of the mediocre than none existent dreams.

This implies that mediocre delivery or nonexistent dreams are the primary possible outcomes and I don't believe that is the case.  Particularly on a site with a preserved historic building, I don't think its outrageous to hope for something better than just more mediocre infill. 
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2019, 10:34 PM
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This implies that mediocre delivery or nonexistent dreams are the primary possible outcomes and I don't believe that is the case.  Particularly on a site with a preserved historic building, I don't think its outrageous to hope for something better than just more mediocre infill. 
I would argue that most buildings (including high rises) in most cities are mediocre in the sense that they are not architectural gems, just non-exceptional ordinary buildings. Most of Chicago, NYC, etc could be so described. Occasionally there is a tall building that rises above mediocrity. That is why we adore the Chrysler or the Tribune buildings; they stand out in the crowd.
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2019, 11:58 PM
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I would argue that most buildings (including high rises) in most cities are mediocre in the sense that they are not architectural gems, just non-exceptional ordinary buildings. Most of Chicago, NYC, etc could be so described. Occasionally there is a tall building that rises above mediocrity. That is why we adore the Chrysler or the Tribune buildings; they stand out in the crowd.
I think you misunderstood my post. My complaint with Portman was that they don't seem to be particularly skilled at creating buildings that properly engage the city at the street level. I've not mentioned height or suggested that this has to be an architectural icon. And I do not agree that most buildings in NY or Chicago are mediocre in regards to how they interact at pedestrian scale.
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Old Posted Dec 24, 2019, 12:54 AM
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I think you misunderstood my post. My complaint with Portman was that they don't seem to be particularly skilled at creating buildings that properly engage the city at the street level. I've not mentioned height or suggested that this has to be an architectural icon. And I do not agree that most buildings in NY or Chicago are mediocre in regards to how they interact at pedestrian scale.

The idea that Portman didn’t engage with the street is an old trope in architectural circles. I get it, but I don’t believe it was his intention to engage the street and Atlanta in particular is a city without much of a history of street engagement; it is a mid- to late 20th century city that eschews the pedestrian life in exchange for the highway. Furthermore the life of the building is within the building, generally not engaging with the exterior world. Thus the development of innen architecture over outer architecture. This makes sense in the late 20th Century city. I am personally not a proponent of the Portman view, but recognize why it exists in the context of newly emerging cities.
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Old Posted Dec 24, 2019, 8:39 PM
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The idea that Portman didn’t engage with the street is an old trope in architectural circles. I get it, but I don’t believe it was his intention to engage the street and Atlanta in particular is a city without much of a history of street engagement; it is a mid- to late 20th century city that eschews the pedestrian life in exchange for the highway. Furthermore the life of the building is within the building, generally not engaging with the exterior world. Thus the development of innen architecture over outer architecture. This makes sense in the late 20th Century city. I am personally not a proponent of the Portman view, but recognize why it exists in the context of newly emerging cities.
It's old and still largely accurate unfortunately. Regardless of the excuses why buildings were/are designed in this way, it has been detrimental to the city and needs to change if the city is to reach it's full potential. Hopefully Portman is willing adapt to this century in developing a key piece real-estate in Midtown
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Old Posted Dec 27, 2019, 7:15 PM
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Historic DuPre Excelsior Mill Appears To Have Collapsed

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Plans to preserve the historic DuPre Excelsior Mill structure as part of The Mill redevelopment project seem to have gone awry Friday.

Kevin Thomas witnessed the original stone and steel of the structure come crumbling down heading into the weekend.

“[Construction workers] were digging around the foundation today,” Thomas wrote in the email to WNA alongside the above photograph.

“Must have gone too deep and caused the eastside to collapse.”
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Old Posted Dec 27, 2019, 7:24 PM
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It was probably intentional so that they could demolish it and build something else on it....wouldn't surprise me.
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Old Posted Dec 29, 2019, 7:41 PM
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14th & Spring

The land development permits for both the office building and Novel Midtown were issued this past week. It looks like this will be starting construction early next year.



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Old Posted Dec 29, 2019, 7:58 PM
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Looks pretty meh.
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Old Posted Dec 29, 2019, 8:52 PM
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Looks pretty meh.
Not the best but better than what’s there.
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Old Posted Dec 29, 2019, 11:03 PM
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Awesome. Just need to get rid of that Shell and put something useful.
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Old Posted Dec 31, 2019, 3:44 AM
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King Memorial TOD is finally ready begin construction

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MARTA development partners for the King Memorial Station transit-oriented development, Place Properties and H.J. Russell Company, have closed on financing to begin construction.

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Old Posted Dec 31, 2019, 4:32 AM
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Lol finally.
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Old Posted Dec 31, 2019, 8:39 AM
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Awesome, I lease an apartment at Ashley Auburn when it open in 2012 before purchasing in the West End. This will be a great option for nearby GSU students.
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Old Posted Jan 8, 2020, 4:50 PM
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Planning permit filed today for renovating the vacant building on the SE corner of Auburn and Hilliard, on the streetcar route. "The property currently contains a vacant story, 5,044 sf masonry building. The proposed project consist of interior and exterior renovations with the addition of an elevator to the rear exterior of the structure. Proposed use of retail/restaurant on the first floor and office space on the second floor."
Little projects like this are really needed, and there are plenty of historic buildings on the streetcar route.
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Old Posted Jan 8, 2020, 10:01 PM
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Planning permit filed today for renovating the vacant building on the SE corner of Auburn and Hilliard, on the streetcar route. "The property currently contains a vacant story, 5,044 sf masonry building. The proposed project consist of interior and exterior renovations with the addition of an elevator to the rear exterior of the structure. Proposed use of retail/restaurant on the first floor and office space on the second floor."
Little projects like this are really needed, and there are plenty of historic buildings on the streetcar route.
Agree
Auburn Ave could really use some the development love.
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Old Posted Jan 8, 2020, 10:02 PM
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I was wondering what can this building be re-purposed for? The only think I can think of is some kind of new museum or art gallery.


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Old Posted Jan 9, 2020, 1:56 AM
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I was wondering what can this building be re-purposed for? The only think I can think of is some kind of new museum or art gallery.


Land swap with The Cheetah.
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