stal̕əw̓asəm (Riverview) Bridge (Pattullo Bridge Replacement) | U/C - Page 84

Lexus · #**1661** Posted **Sep 19, 2019, 10:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by osirisboy

Yes, that is all interesting.

But I asked "wonder how many people would be walking over the bridge" and now you are talking about escooters?

I was wondering, for example, Has transliink counted pedestrian crossings now and what they think it'll be in the future. What are they on crossings like Alex Fraser etc

Took this picture today from a bike/ pedestrian crossing at SkyTrain bridge Vancouver-Richmond. They should use it to count Bike crossings. If so they have some good hard data about demand for bike crossings.

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VancouverOfTheFuture · #**1662** Posted **Sep 19, 2019, 11:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by Lexus

Took this picture today from a bike/ pedestrian crossing at SkyTrain bridge Vancouver-Richmond. They should use it to count Bike crossings. If so they have some good hard data about demand for bike crossings.

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both of those are used for bike crossings. the diamonds give a bike and direction of travel, and the dual tubes also give the bike and direction of travel.

flipper316 · #**1663** Posted **Sep 26, 2019, 7:07 PM**

https://www.peacearchnews.com/news/earthquake-warning-system-being-installed-for-pattullo-bridge/

madog222 · #**1664** Posted **Jan 4, 2020, 3:43 AM**

Aecon and Acciona's Fraser Crossing Partners has been selected as the contractor.
I can't see any other new information in the press stories.

FCP's renderings from the Daily Hive article.

trofirhen · #**1665** Posted **Jan 4, 2020, 6:20 AM**

I would like to ask a question: although I -and I am sure many others - would agree that a new, safer, well designed Patullo Bidge will be good to have ....why only four lanes?
I ask this for two reasons. Firstly, will this provide enough lane space / vehicle capacity in coming decades, and secondly, what about a transit option like BRT, or maybe even rail?
It seems to me that maxing it to only four lanes might be short-sighted. I direct this question to the traffic engineers, and those knowledgeable on this. Please correct me if I am wrong.

jollyburger · #**1666** Posted **Jan 4, 2020, 6:54 AM**

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Originally Posted by trofirhen

I would like to ask a question: although I -and I am sure many others - would agree that a new, safer, well designed Patullo Bidge will be good to have ....why only four lanes?
I ask this for two reasons. Firstly, will this provide enough lane space / vehicle capacity in coming decades, and secondly, what about a transit option like BRT, or maybe even rail?
It seems to me that maxing it to only four lanes might be short-sighted. I direct this question to the traffic engineers, and those knowledgeable on this. Please correct me if I am wrong.

I mean the article does say they can designed it with the ability to expand to 6 lanes in the future.

Sheba · #**1667** Posted **Jan 4, 2020, 7:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by trofirhen

I would like to ask a question: although I -and I am sure many others - would agree that a new, safer, well designed Patullo Bidge will be good to have ....why only four lanes?
I ask this for two reasons. Firstly, will this provide enough lane space / vehicle capacity in coming decades, and secondly, what about a transit option like BRT, or maybe even rail?
It seems to me that maxing it to only four lanes might be short-sighted. I direct this question to the traffic engineers, and those knowledgeable on this. Please correct me if I am wrong.

You've asked these questions before and people have answered you. New West doesn't currently have enough roadspace for it to open with six lanes - so they're opening it with four and the outer two lanes will initially be used for pedestrians and cyclists. Later they'll build a separate section for peds and bikes, cantilevered on the outside, and the outer lanes will be car lanes. Images of this have been posted.

Also notice the Skybridge in those pictures? There's no need to add rail to the Pattullo - there's barely any need to run buses over it.

Metro-One · #**1668** Posted **Jan 4, 2020, 8:49 AM**

Interesting to see they may be going with a single taller tower / longer span than two shorter ones.

I may actually like the look of that.

Aroundtheworld · #**1669** Posted **Jan 4, 2020, 8:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by Sheba

Also notice the Skybridge in those pictures? There's no need to add rail to the Pattullo - there's barely any need to run buses over it.

There could be a case to leave room for intercity rail to use the bridge, such as a train from Seattle to Vancouver.

fredinno · #**1670** Posted **Jan 4, 2020, 9:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by Aroundtheworld

There could be a case to leave room for intercity rail to use the bridge, such as a train from Seattle to Vancouver.

HSR and AMTRAK are probably too heavy though.

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Originally Posted by Metro-One

Interesting to see they may be going with a single taller tower / longer span than two shorter ones.

I may actually like the look of that.

Yep, and thankfully it's designed to leave the cables outside the roadspace. No more ice falling hazards.

VancouverOfTheFuture · #**1671** Posted **Jan 4, 2020, 11:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by Aroundtheworld

There could be a case to leave room for intercity rail to use the bridge, such as a train from Seattle to Vancouver.

no, wont happen. grade is too steep. period.

libtard · #**1672** Posted **Jan 5, 2020, 7:36 AM**

How will they be able to expand the lanes from 4 to 6 if the bridge deck is hemmed in by H frame supports?

Marshal · #**1673** Posted **Jan 5, 2020, 9:00 AM**

It is the six lane width that is hemmed in by the towers.

cornholio · #**1674** Posted **Jan 5, 2020, 10:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by libtard

How will they be able to expand the lanes from 4 to 6 if the bridge deck is hemmed in by H frame supports?

With lots of extra tax payer money and a few years of construction obstructions for commuters.

Alex Mackinnon · #**1675** Posted **Jan 5, 2020, 11:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by libtard

How will they be able to expand the lanes from 4 to 6 if the bridge deck is hemmed in by H frame supports?

They would cantilever new sidewalks off the side I believe.

red-paladin · #**1676** Posted **Jan 6, 2020, 12:09 AM**

It's unclear now that the design is different, I'd say.

madog222 · #**1677** Posted **Jan 6, 2020, 12:41 AM**

The as-built sidewalks are shown inside the cable stays and on the main bridge structure.

libtard · #**1678** Posted **Jan 6, 2020, 1:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by Alex Mackinnon

They would cantilever new sidewalks off the side I believe.

Not possible. Same reason they didn't do that for the Alex Fraser

Marshal · #**1679** Posted **Jan 6, 2020, 4:11 AM**

Why is it not possible?

Metro-One · #**1680** Posted **Jan 6, 2020, 4:19 AM**

Yeah, the Golden Ears Bridge has the pedestrian and cycling pathways on the outside of the cables and towers, so see no reason why it can’t be done here.

In the end though it is still silly not to open this bridge at full width from opening day ( and simply open 4 lanes, akin to what was done for the Cassiar Tunnel ).