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odinthor · #**53141** Posted **Dec 1, 2019, 5:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Doesn anyone know German Swedish?

Here we have a group of Swedish (or German) men with their catch of fish.

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Can anyone tell if the fish are fresh or salt water fish? ...(I can't help but notice how small they are)

I hoped that the fishing spot would be mentioned on the reverse. . .but if I'm not mistaken, a good part of it appears to be cooking instructions.

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POSTED....Los Angeles...10:30 P.M....Oct. 21, 1920.

RETURN ADDRESS....736 Garland Ave., Los Angeles Calif.
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e_r, I see "og" (Danish for "and"; Swedish would be "och") and "jeg" (Danish for "I"; Swedish would be "jag").

Noir_Noir · #**53142** Posted **Dec 1, 2019, 12:17 PM**

Another Tucker 48 sighting captured on camera in Los Angeles.

It's March 1952 and the car is in for a repaint job at an auto body shop somewhere in North Hollywood.

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Also this blurry rear view shot taken at the same time. Sign to the right : _______ ______ Electric Co. First word possibly "Olympic".

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Bristolian · #**53143** Posted **Dec 2, 2019, 2:40 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I'm still a bit confused by this. . .
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"The earliest known history on the turquoise Tucker, was when it appeared on a car lot in March of 1959, just five miles from my aunt & uncle's home.
Mr. Schutta further states that it was almost certainly sold new by Southwest Tucker, located at 2021 Wellington Road, which was five to six miles from the Haskell's home."....
Carl J.
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But 2021 Wellington Road is located in the middle of a residential area.

GSV...note the street number on the step.

I highly doubt that this is the correct address of the Southwest Tucker Automobile Dealership.
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I would hypothesize that someone living at 2021 Wellington Road was in line for one of the planned but never realized Tucker dealerships and was using that as the business address at the time.

Noir_Noir · #**53144** Posted **Dec 2, 2019, 2:15 PM**

Henry J. Montague had a garage and gas station at 5250 Hollywood Boulevard.

He bought into the Tucker Dream and in 1948, he was getting ready to go with his dealership.

Business cards printed up.

coachbuilt.com

And a new sign about to go up.

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The building is still there and you can see where the sign fitted in.

GSV

CityBoyDoug · #**53145** Posted **Dec 2, 2019, 4:52 PM**

whittington

Wilshire Boulevard and Fairfax Avenue
Los Angeles, c. 1939

badrunner · #**53146** Posted **Dec 2, 2019, 6:51 PM**

Cruisin' the Miracle Mile:

• Video Link

badrunner · #**53147** Posted **Dec 2, 2019, 7:07 PM**

Are the 80s considered noir yet?

• Video Link

People tell me that the 80s were the absolute low point for Hollywood blvd with out of control crime, drugs and prostitution. But what I would pay to go back and see it all again, exactly as I remember it. It doesn't seem all that bad. Maybe the present day is the low point, with all the vloggers, influencers and instagram thotties pouring into the neighborhood.

Or maybe just because I grew up in the 80s/90s. All I see in that video is pure 80s goodness

ethereal_reality · #**53148** Posted **Dec 3, 2019, 1:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by Noir_Noir

Henry J. Montague had a garage and gas station at 5250 Hollywood Boulevard.

He bought into the Tucker Dream and in 1948, he was getting ready to go with his dealership.

Business cards printed up.

coachbuilt.com

And a new sign about to go up.

ladbsdoc.lacity.org

The building is still there and you can see where the sign fitted in.

GSV

This is quite a discovery, Noir Noir!

I looked all over for a vintage photograph of this stretch of Hollywood Blvd. to no avail.

But, if you look really hard and squint you can see a. . .Oh, who am I tryin' to fool. . .you can't see a darn thing. ...

GSV

But I did find another Tucker dealership down in San Pedro.

LAPL

Google puts the dealership in the corner building shown below.

GOOGLE EARTH

& it isn't too difficult to imagine a Tucker Dealership in this vintage building.

. . .but note the street number. (603)

Wouldn't the old Tucker dealership be at the end of the 500 block instead of the beginning of the 600 block?

GSV

I really want it to be the building on the left. ....The building on the right is too new.

FOR SEARCH PURPOSES:...TUCKER AUTOMOBILES,....FRANK C. TAYLOR, DEALER....595 S. Gaffey, San Pedro Calif......TEL. TERMINAL 3-3577

Bristolian · #**53149** Posted **Dec 3, 2019, 1:51 AM**

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Originally Posted by Bristolian

I would hypothesize that someone living at 2021 Wellington Road was in line for one of the planned but never realized Tucker dealerships and was using that as the business address at the time.

It looks like the blind squirrel might have found an acorn!

The 1941 L.A. city directory shows Erick Flodine residing at 2021 Wellington rd.

A Google search turned up this 1950 appellate court case with Eric (slightly different spelling) Flodine as the appellant in a case involving Tucker Motor Cars, accessory packages and fraud.

https://law.justia.com/cases/california/court-of-appeal/2d/95/supp931.html

It's mostly legalese but some excerpts:

"More specifically, he alleged that he had "made a written agreement wherein and whereby the said plaintiff placed an order with the said defendants for the purchase and subsequent delivery of an automobile known as Tucker Motor car," and that he was induced to enter into another contract whereby he agreed to purchase, and the defendants agreed to sell, certain accessories to be used in connection with the Tucker motor car, by the fraudulent representation of the defendants that he (the plaintiff) would be able to procure and purchase said Tucker motor car and would be able to use the accessories on it. The defendants knew, he further alleged, that Tucker cars were not being produced, and that plaintiff could not obtain one."
- That first sentence is a real doozy.

and:

"That said defendants at said time concealed and withheld the knowledge from this plaintiff that there were no Tucker motor cars in production ..." There is no evidence whatever supporting the finding that there was no Tucker motor car in production, let alone that the defendant knew that there was none but concealed the fact from the plaintiff. The nearest that plaintiff came to proving his allegations was when he testified: "They told me deliveries would start in October, and that I should get mine in the near future" and again when he replied "Yes" to the question, "They told you that deliveries would start about October of 1948?"

The accessory packages mentioned as well as the large number of prospective dealerships are explained in the Wikipedia page on the Tucker 48:

"Having raised $17,000,000 in a stock issue, one of the first speculative IPOs, Tucker needed more money to continue development of the car. He sold dealerships and distributorships throughout the country. Another money maker was the Tucker Accessories Program. In order to secure a spot on the Tucker waiting list, future buyers could purchase accessories, like seat covers, radio, and luggage, before their car was built. This brought in an additional $2,000,000."

I wasn't able to find a record of the original case.

Noir_Noir · #**53150** Posted **Dec 3, 2019, 2:42 PM**

An August 1948 edition of the Los Angeles Examiner apparently had an ad listing 27 Tucker dealers and addresses in Southern California.

We've got possibly six of them in the LA area -

Murphy Motors - 708 S. Vermont Ave.
Brown-Wise Motors - 831½ S. Hobart Blvd.
Hollywood Tucker - 5250 Hollywood Blvd.
J. H. Adamson - Crenshaw Blvd/46th St.
Eric Flodine/Southwest Tucker (?) - 2021 Wellington Rd.
Frank C. Taylor - 595 S. Gafney St. San Pedro.

So twenty one left with maybe half of them in or around LA.

Almost as much fun as the car lovers had tracking down the Tucker '48s.

Ooh for a copy of that Examiner ad.

CityBoyDoug · #**53151** Posted **Dec 3, 2019, 3:12 PM**

Nina L.

Herbert's.....Los Angeles...1945

GaylordWilshire · #**53152** Posted **Dec 3, 2019, 7:04 PM**

There have naturally been dozens of posts about the Garden of Allah (née the Garden of Alla). But before there was the West Hollywood incarnation--there seems to have been a couple of others. On Sept 4, 1921, the Times ran a item about an elaborate "novel café" by that name to be built on Western Avenue between Marathon and Melrose, pic & article below.... I didn't dig into whether it ever got built. But my big question has to do with the Garden of Allah Hotel that occupied the Hook-Holliday house at 1386 W Adams at the sec corner of Vermont from 1921 or so until 1926--the year Alla Nazimova began putting together her G of Alla, which had its opening in Jan 1927. The Adams Street G of A became the Adams Hotel for a few years before the house was demolished by Cecil B. De Mille--he bought the corner as an investment and built a very good-looking store building on the site that lasted until 1985 (see below).

Dinner for 100 of your closest friends at Romanoffs or Perinos and a lifetime pass to Mocambo if anyone can find an image of the house that traction magnate William S. Hook and his wife Mary built at 1386 W Adams 1900-02. Locke & Munsell (predecessor of Hudson & Munsell) may have been the architects. It wasn't a small or inconspicuous house--but I've looked high and low for something, anything, photo, drawing, but no luck.

HossC? Flyingwedge?

The Hook-Hollidayhouse/Garden of Allah Hotel is on the lower right corner near center image from 1928):

UCSB aerials

The De Mille store building sec Adams & Vermont January 1932:

USCDL

Times, Sept 4, 1921 re the possible Western Ave G of A:

odinthor · #**53153** Posted **Dec 3, 2019, 9:00 PM**

Is this what you're looking for (the Hook house on W. Adams)?

LA Times 8/23/1925, via ProQuest, via CSULB Library

ethereal_reality · #**53154** Posted **Dec 3, 2019, 9:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by Bristolian

It looks like the blind squirrel might have found an acorn!

You sure did, Bristolian!

You earn a

emoji.

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GaylordWilshire · #**53155** Posted **Dec 3, 2019, 10:44 PM**

Well, no, but thank you odinthor. That is Wm. S. Hook Jr.'s house. He bought 2155 West Adams and moved it a block east to become 2055 West Adams at St. Andrews--remodeling the building extensively. His parents lived at 1386 West Adams, which is my quarry.

My stories on 2155 and 2055, in the process of being updated:

2155:
https://adamsboulevardlosangeles.blogspot.com/2013/07/2155-west-adams-boulevard-please-also.html

2055--the one in your picture:
https://adamsboulevardlosangeles.blogspot.com/2013/04/2055-west-adams-boulevard-please-also.html

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Originally Posted by ;8765739

Is this what you're looking for (the Hook house on W. Adams)?

LA Times 8/23/1925, via ProQuest, via CSULB Library

CaliNative · #**53156** Posted **Dec 3, 2019, 11:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

whittington

Wilshire Boulevard and Fairfax Avenue
Los Angeles, c. 1939

^^^

Looks like the Edward Hopper painting "Nighthawks", but set in an L.A. drive-in instead of a lonely diner in some unidentified eastern U.S. city.

odinthor · #**53157** Posted **Dec 4, 2019, 12:14 AM**

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Originally Posted by HossC

A quick Google found no previous mentions of the Pacific Hospital. It first appears in the 1900/01 CD at 1319 South Grand Avenue, and stays in the listings until 1929 (although the address changes to 1329 S Grand between 1911 and 1915). Did the coming of the much larger California Medical Building/California Hospital on the Hope Street side of the same block spell the end for the Pacific Hospital? I don't know what happened in the 1930s, but 1329 S Grand is listed under 'Automobile Parking' in the 1942 CD. The postmark dates this postcard at 1911.

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Here's an article about the hospital's opening from the December 22, 1899 edition of the Los Angeles Herald. I love the line about how it's "so nearly perfect in all its appointments and so attractive in finish and finishings, it almost robs surgical operations of their terror and makes illness attractive."

California Digital Newspaper Collection

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Have we had another angle on the building in the background of the above postcard?

LA Herald 3/1/1915

ethereal_reality · #**53158** Posted **Dec 4, 2019, 2:42 AM**

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Originally Posted by Noir_Noir

Another Tucker 48 sighting captured on camera in Los Angeles.

It's March 1952 and the car is in for a repaint job at an auto body shop somewhere in North Hollywood.

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I am still puzzled about the location of this fantastic snapshot posted by Noir Noir.

Here's another snapshot taken that same day in March of 1952.

...........................................................................................Note the man pretending to be a hood ornament. (I didn't notice him at first)

. . .from the LINK Noir Noir provided us.

"My dad, Alwin Twitchell, is the 'hood ornament' in the this photograph. The story was that 'Madman Muntz' had the car painted
and the car was about to be returned to his used car lot. Price was like $1995 or so. photos are dated march 1952.
No idea what number car it is... or its color."

from mrspeedyyt

Here's all I've got, folks.

Could the Safeway in this photograph [below] be the same Safeway in the Tucker pics?

old post / ethereal_reality

North Hollywood Station....Safeway on Lankershim.....Looking East (?)

I guess it would depend on ....a couple things. umm... like...when Red Car service stopped. and..umm ...I forgot the second thing.

The photos make me wonder how many Safeway stores were/are located in North Hollywood. Could this have been the only Safeway location within North Hollywood.

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ethereal_reality · #**53159** Posted **Dec 4, 2019, 8:21 AM**

A mystery.

rppc Los Angeles house. ...Postmark 1939.

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I thought someone here on NLA might recognize this Los Angeles home because of its highly unusual full circle porch opening.

I really don't like it....It reminds me of a giant gloryhole.

...(Did I just say that out loud?)

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ethereal_reality · #**53160** Posted **Dec 4, 2019, 8:40 AM**

This snapshot might not compared with Aunt Dorothy's Tucker but it's interesting, nonetheless.

old file / found on eBay.

"Alicia and beautiful Ethereal (aw shucks

. . .Its first Trip." (somewhere in Los Angeles)

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