Winnipeg Construction X

[buzzg]

There was supposed to be a gun range but once they went to build it they realized the building was deficient in some way.

[headhorse]

Originally Posted by wags_in_the_peg

The WPS majority of the time is doing a great work! Don’t shit on the force because of the building boondoggle.

the cops are as corrupt as caspian and katz

[optimusREIM]

Originally Posted by headhorse

the cops are as corrupt as caspian and katz

All cops?

[EndoftheBeginning]

Originally Posted by buzzg

There was supposed to be a gun range but once they went to build it they realized the building was deficient in some way.

Probably for the best. Unless you have an exceptionally well designed HVAC system with good isolation from the rest of the building, and strict decontamination controls for entry/exit points, indoor ranges are just asking for lead dust contamination to spread throughout a building. Then you pay to remediate the problem.

[pspeid]

Isn't suggesting "all cops are corrupt" just like saying "all immigrants are parasites" or "all Indigenous people are drunks"? IMO it doesn't help the discussion to stereotype groups, no matter one's personal experience with them...and I hope I remember my own advice the next time Andrew Scheer says anything!

[esquire]

Originally Posted by EndoftheBeginning

Probably for the best. Unless you have an exceptionally well designed HVAC system with good isolation from the rest of the building, and strict decontamination controls for entry/exit points, indoor ranges are just asking for lead dust contamination to spread throughout a building. Then you pay to remediate the problem.

There is such a massive roof on the building... couldn't they put a "new building" on top of the existing one given that a gun range could be a very light structure?

[EndoftheBeginning]

^ Could probably work - but the structure is not light. There is a lot of very thick steel in the backstop areas of an indoor range (end walls and side walls near the end). And if ballistic testing is also part of the range, the testing units they fire into are also very heavy with thick steel components. As long as the roof can support it, an isolated facility like that would be the best option.

[dmacc]

Originally Posted by EndoftheBeginning

Probably for the best. Unless you have an exceptionally well designed HVAC system with good isolation from the rest of the building, and strict decontamination controls for entry/exit points, indoor ranges are just asking for lead dust contamination to spread throughout a building. Then you pay to remediate the problem.

Maybe they should have installed it in the Canada Post building, it needs to be re mediated anyway.

[headhorse]

Originally Posted by pspeid

Isn't suggesting "all cops are corrupt" just like saying "all immigrants are parasites" or "all Indigenous people are drunks"? IMO it doesn't help the discussion to stereotype groups, no matter one's personal experience with them...and I hope I remember my own advice the next time Andrew Scheer says anything!

all the cops are making the decision to be cops? there are some who quit and I commend them for their morality and bravery.

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by headhorse

the cops are as corrupt as caspian and katz

As stupid as this statement is there is some truth to it, cops in this city on average are paid $120K + per year, most retire with ridiculous pensions thanks to paid OT (the WPS is the only jurisdiction in Canada afforded this platinum plum). The WPS union basically dictates their own salary raises and those usually in the 2-3% average per year, so with the majority of officers making $100K these guys are basically getting a $10K pay increase every three years, couple that with increases in their brackets and being a police officer probably puts you in the top 5% wage earners in this city!

How many unions have it's members making that kind of money?

[bomberjet]

While I agree with the statements about overpaid police. Raises of 2%-3% per year should be bare bones minimum for every single employee of every company. At minimum, rate of inflation which is usually around those rates.

[Andy6]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

While I agree with the statements about overpaid police. Raises of 2%-3% per year should be bare bones minimum for every single employee of every company. At minimum, rate of inflation which is usually around those rates.

That just pushes inflation up since those increases don't reflect any increase in the value of what the people are doing. You're just pushing more money into the economy, all chasing after the same things, so prices rise until the wages of the employees essentially have the same value as they had before the raises. In the 1970s, when inflation went out of control, unions were going on strike for 10% annual raises, and routinely getting them. Needless to say, no one got rich, while people on fixed incomes were badly disadvantaged.

[1ajs]

can u guys move the police talk to crime or exoresso thread

[armorand93]

Originally Posted by optimusREIM

All cops?

WPS might have some nasty apples in the basket... but not all of them are corrupt.

But yeah anyways, so i was wondering, is there any new construction on Portage Avenue lately?

[bomberjet]

Originally Posted by Andy6

That just pushes inflation up since those increases don't reflect any increase in the value of what the people are doing. You're just pushing more money into the economy, all chasing after the same things, so prices rise until the wages of the employees essentially have the same value as they had before the raises. In the 1970s, when inflation went out of control, unions were going on strike for 10% annual raises, and routinely getting them. Needless to say, no one got rich, while people on fixed incomes were badly disadvantaged.

So the answer is to stop inflation.

[LilZebra]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

So the answer is to stop inflation.

No, that would be unreasonable. Just significantly slow it down.

[pegcityfan]

I'm remember as kid biking by a back yard (early 80's) that had a giant greenish statue of spider in Windsor Park. You could see a fair bit of it over the fence.

Do any of you know the details (when it was made) or have photos of that statue? I imagine it's still there. Way too substantial to move.

[DancingDuck]

Originally Posted by pegcityfan

I'm remember as kid biking by a back yard (early 80's) that had a giant greenish statue of spider in Windsor Park. You could see a fair bit of it over the fence.

Do any of you know the details (when it was made) or have photos of that statue? I imagine it's still there. Way too substantial to move.

I believe it is actually of a dragon, it's in the backyard of a house on the west side of Coral Crescent near Cottonwood.
Approximately here https://maps.app.goo.gl/SGdeF8PziAhfRHJLA

My dad grew up near there and he's always told me it was an art project that a girl did for university. The house is/was her parents house. I have no idea how accurate any of the story is but it's a damn impressive sculpture either way.

[wags_in_the_peg]

house backs onto St Bernadette Parish, I use to see it all the time.

[bomberjet]

Originally Posted by LilZebra

No, that would be unreasonable. Just significantly slow it down.

My point was, having no wage increase while everything costs more and more is not acceptable.

Wages need to keep pace with inflation. In the industry I work in, we get wage increases every year at least equal to inflation. It's in the employers best interest to retain talent. otherwise we'd go work elsewhere were wages increase.